Showdale if the game is kick ass will you buy one?

Yea, but I might need to sell TFLE. : )

But in all seriousness, If its good I'll buy the shit out of it.

I asked Jack about the arms on the WOZ boards and he stated that the witch will have arms

if WOZ is half as good as everyone on this forum and JJP thinks it is , we will have a top 20 game on our hands, i cant wait to play some!

So nobody is going to discuss the plastics on this thread?

I can't believe no one has mentioned that plastic on the right side. Did the Wizard bombard Toto with radioactive particles that caused him to glow or what? The pic can only be zoomed so much, but from what I see it looks like something I could have done in MS paint (and I'm not very good.....at all).

As for the other plastics....the rest look fine to me. I can't say I really care for the selection on the slings or right return lane, but I can't really think of anything better to have and at least the art quality looks good. I'm also not so sure about these and the other lower, center playfield plastics being green. All other plastics seem to match their place on the playfield except for those 4. Green belongs in the top right of the playfield.

The plastics with just color and mostly design at the top of the playfield are probably my favorite of the bunch, but the Dorothy, Dorothy, Wizard plastic on the left is also very nice. I don't know if the double Dorothy was really needed, but it still looks good.

ROFL - I noticed that too but what my "guess" is that it will probably have a bulb/led directly under toto that will flash/blink when you hit the TOTO rollover switches on the bottom right hand side...

You can keep your off the shelf $12 figure and we'll have our custom sculpted mechanical toy with Addams Family style magnetic fun. I don't think we need to see the finished game to know that the build quality is much higher than TF. It's self evident. As for the game, we can only guess until we've played it. So let's just leave the arguments til then yeah?

I will keep my toys. And there made by Hasbro the top toy company in the world so... You can keep your mechanical toy that has arms and moves, made by dudes who are trying to recreate the quality that B/Ws games had. Becouse they never broke. ; /

i thought this thread was about one word...are you listening?

You guys are arguing over who to whack off to....heheheheheh

I'm British. Whacking isn't funny here. : )

I'm Merican, still not funny.

Not great quality (I'm not the best photoshopper) but you can see how they look as a whole on the playfield.

http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z339/Catrichor/test.png

I think the colour scheme is fantastic, just the lack of hand drawn elements disappoints me.

Very busy.

Snowdale, why don't you go back to RGP where one cannot tell the difference between a fifteen year-old and a fifty year-old.

Let me guess, you didn't like the Data East comment.

DCFAN, thanks for breaking the "witch will have arms" story.

It was in the WOZ newsgroup which you are not privy.

Well thanks for the inside scoop!

Actually I love the old data east art work real cool. GNR TFTC TOMMY all great hand drawn art.

Great post

No love for LAH? I'm surprised.

The witch is gonna make Optimus her biznatch. Fo' rizzle.

This is true, but it is also creating a fanboy culture here that is unfortunate. People have been disgruntled with Stern for a long time and love to bash them. A lot of the bashing is well deserved, but most isn't. It's tough being the only game in town. On the other hand JJP is the new guy in town and is enjoying a honeymoon period in which he can do no wrong. If Stern had chosen WOZ as a theme instead of JJP, there would be people outside the factory with torches and pitch forks. For the sake of those who ordered one and have been patiently waiting through the delays, I only hope that WOZ can come anywhere close to the hype that it is getting. I look forward to unboxing one at my good friend's house when it shows up.

No big deal, just pointing out facts. I will enjoy my BIB LE, wait for the next JJP game announcement and decide which of the two great pinball companies my next NIB will come from. This time around it was an easy choice. My favorite designers (SR and Lyman) and one of my dream themes (ACDC) vs my second favorite designers (Nordman and KPJ) and the worst theme (WOZ) I can imagine (except Oprah or The Kardashians).

John

Haters can hate. It's their opinion. We'll all know soon enough.

And I'm not a Stern nor a JPop-hater. I wish them all luck, but we all have opinions, on whether we like a certain theme, or the way a company might do business and treat customers or the community. It's all part of the dialogue. I don't see a reason to call each other names simply because different people have different opinions.

Pissing in someone's cornflakes because theyre excited about a new pin is about the crappiest thing a "hobbyist" can do to another. I hate Stern but I'm not giving AC/DC owners shit for such a horrible looking playfield with the main toy being a bell. Hell the cheesy moving band isn't worth mentioning or the crappy looking lower playfield inserts. Well at least the delays means the code will only take 1 1/2 years to complete.

See, as a future WOZ owner I won't lower myself to the Stern fanboy level.

I think Woz posts are much funnier to read lately then to post on.
Have fun battling guys I am just waiting for mine to show up and I will find out first hand.
Looks promising to me but maybe not everyone. (Nature of the beast)

Have a wonderful day all of you!

Seriously dude. Go see a therapist. Work that stuff out before you go around attacking people you don't know on a goofy internet messageboard. Take your ritalin or lithium or whatever. I don't care what you think of me, so don't waste your time.

You guys need to fight elsewhere. Thank you.

I think the plastics fit the theme. Just watched a local theater do the WOZ play. It was really good and there were a lot of things I forgot about. Makes the pin easier to understand everything if you watch it again.

Oh really? Monster Bash was originally designed with a mini-ramp in front of Frank (that's why all the early playfields have springsteel on them covering nothing). Maybe that doesn't count because it didn't make production? OK, well, how about RFM? There's a mini-ramp there that bashes into many virtual toys. Of course there is a reality ramp switch that registers it. Still not real enough? How about Goldeneye, then? A miniramp into a ROTATING satellite dish, that does 2 different things: Grabs onto the ball, then later lets you knock said ball out of the dish. That's like 4x the excitement of OP!

Oh don't forget the slam ramp on NGG. That comes down, however, and doesn't pop up, so maybe that disqualifies the ramp in your mind? 5 different shots up there, though. As opposed to 1 OP.

MNF? That's through a goalpost though, not into a toy. Sorry, my bad.

Those are just the ones that rushed into my head offhand. I'm guessing there are others

No, what really would've been novel is something that, you know, transformed I think.

Indeed.

Awesome stuff Keefer. Thanks

I have to agree. It's a great idea. It has it's problems but so what? Champion Pub has a similar shot and it had it's problems too. No real issue, still fun to play.

Pappy

You guys have to watch this video. This guy did all the artwork for most of the DE games. Pretty interesting.

BTW Greg did most of the WOZ artwork in Photoshop. Same as Stern does. It's just the way things are these days.

Pappy

Good luck with your game. I'd still rather bash Optimus than all of your "supposed" comparisons. Its better becouse of the orbit. Not only is it a fun as hell toy, it saves space by having the orbit there. One of the quicker and satisfying orbits sterns got.

That's cool, I don't have a problem with that. I just had a problem with

which I feel like I demonstrated was clearly inaccurate.

I'm not really sure where you're going with this. You mean because there's a shot that goes "through the toy"? Again I'd just point out that NGG has a minimum of 5 shots under the upper playfield the mini-ramp sends the ball to (although only 2 or maybe 3 are blocked off by the ramp being down).

How's the programming going keefer?

Finally! An answer to something that I'd wondered about since first getting my MB!

OK. So you're saying that a TRANSFORMERS pin that doesn't have a single toy that actually *transforms* is a GOOD thing? uh-huh. I believe you. Stern missed the boat bigtime with that. After the teaser trailer and all, too. For shame.

Did you listen to Jack's talk at the last show. Greg talked aout the plastics and in particular the one you speak off. Might want to give it a listen.

Could you summarize please? I always prefer to read info in 10-15 seconds rather than be forced to sit through several minutes or more of linear info. (I guess I'm not part of the younger "dumbed-down" generation that wants all their info with pretty video and sounds.) <--- This is *not* a dig at you or any other individual here, btw!