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Lastest Undervalued SS pins

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2 years ago


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#14 2 years ago
Quoted from 20eyes:

Gottlieb Hot Shots designed by Jon Norris. Its a really good game with IMHO one of the worst art packages I have ever seen. If you come across one its worth a play.

I genuinely feel bad for Jon Norris (well, as bad as I can feel for a guy that still got to have a career designing pins). He has some awesome, innovative playfields completely neutered by horrible art packages and half-baked rulesets. If Gottlieb had just put out half as many games during their later years quality would've gone way up and I think he'd be up there with the great designers.

Diamond Lady is my suggestion. Really fun shots, multiple strategies, good sound package. The goofy drop-target center post and art package are my only complaints.

#21 2 years ago
Quoted from explosiveegg:

Sad thing is he finally got back into the industry and was doing designs for Deeproot. I think 3 of his last 4 games never made it to production due to places shutting down.
Gottlieb was cranking pins out and the lack of polish shows, but some of his designs still hold up really well. I'm a big fan of Lights Camera Action and Gladiators. He always had his hands in the rules too. LCA is the first mode based game too, now every game is mode based.

Gladiators is my favorite System 3 and a game I'd love to own at some point, that's exactly what I was thinking of with the flawed ruleset though... I think I've heard someone mention a patched ROM but not seeing anything with a quick Google? Have not had a chance to play LCA

It sucks we'll never get to see the Norris, Oursler, + Nordman games that were designed for Deeproot but hopefully Jon + Barry can get a contract job or two (if not a fulltime position somewhere) and I'm *very* excited to see Dennis's influence at American. 3 incredibly talented guys.

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