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Last non licensed original game

By Insane

8 years ago


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    #69 8 years ago
    Quoted from Aurich:

    I think licensing is choking the creativity out of pinball, it's full of too many compromises. Companies are more strict about what they'll allow now, brand management has changed since the 90s.

    I'm curious, Aurich. You owned a Stern Star Trek. Do you believe Paramount was overly strict with the license on that?

    They not only provided tons of audio lifts, they also approved all of the custom dots (including the racy, fun Match dots). They also approved all of Karl Urban's custom speech, including funny, goofy stuff like "Dammit, I'm a doctor not a pinball Wizard!" I think Paramount was quite generous.

    Same goes for Metallica, AC/DC, KISS.

    I'm not seeing a lot of compromises from the licenser lately....at least not on Stern titles.

    JJP apparently got rebuked on many of their Hobbit animations. I guess you could make an argument for Peter Jackson being too controlling....

    #76 8 years ago
    Quoted from Aurich:

    Yeah, the art on Star Trek is blaaaahhh. Nothing worse than actor headshots all over the place, no thanks.

    Premium only has actors on the translite, and that will be replaced with yours soon.

    Quoted from Aurich:

    I love Greg Freres, designed some of my favorite pinball art packages, but Star Trek was a whiff. Licensed PR shots, lazy bevel/emboss grid, just not a looker at all, outside of the awesome light show. Premium/LE lighting was great. He was just getting his feet under him, and had to do 3 game packages, so I think he gets a pass. You'll notice that since he got settled there are a lot less differences between the art packs. Look at Kiss! Walking Dead Pro/LE used the same art for the translite/backglass, just tweaked.

    None of that is Paramount's fault. I don't see this as a problem with licensed themes, or corporations putting the "shackles" on the designers.

    Quoted from Aurich:

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    Karl Urban voice recordings was a good idea in theory, not the license fault it failed.

    I don't think his call-outs are a failure. They sounded odd when I first watched videos of them, but they are completely natural now. Most people that play my game laugh (in the good way) at his call-outs.

    I'm just having trouble seeing where a licensed pin is being squashed by corporate policy. Except maybe Peter Jackson and the Hobbit.

    #93 8 years ago
    Quoted from Circus_Animal:

    Stern are incapable of making a profitable original theme for two reasons:
    1. They don't innovate

    Yup. No innovation on SAM or SPIKE systems.

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