Recently picked up a very nice LAH, I have to say, it's a pretty great game. Similar to Data East stuff, of course, I had Jurassic Park and they used similar 'stuff' on that title, but I think this one is more fun.

It's not a flow game, by any means, but it is certainly a shot game. I really like the precision necessary to hit the captured balls and the right scoop shot. I also like the skill shot, much like T2, and the crane lock award by completing the targets.

It has an incredible amount of features in one game, (2) captured balls, (1) 'ripper' kickback, (3) scoops, (1) VUK, crane, (3) magnets in the middle (like Adams Family), lane changing ramp, several 6 ball multiball modes, etc. Pretty amazing amount of toys in the game that change things up a lot.

I think it deserves a better rating than 7.9, and certainly more fun than T2 and Jurassic Park.

Is that what he says when you hit the spinner? Lol.

My ripper is lightening fast when I hit it, I can't even see it come back, way faster than JP was. I'm really digging the game, ordered the alt translite too, cliffys, new balls. Gonna tear it down and do the Treasure Cove thing (it already looks very nice, but can only get better). Also asked some advice from the Pinballbulbs.com guys and ordered a double spotlight with purple frosted to put on the lower left sling and see if that helps brighten up the playfield a bit, it's super dark there when you play in a dark room, which I prefer to do.

Super Crane is a fun mode for sure EchoVictor, I like Go to the Movies too, with the add-a-ball. Although, the captured balls are not a simple task to hit.

Yeah, the pinball bulb guy said that purple would be good on this one as a test, those colors tend to enhance the playfield, other than white which washes it out. We'll see.

Oh yeah, just heard that tonight. I will have to watch the movie again.

mine is trashed, so I picked one up instead of the original.

Is there a way to make a couple alignment marks and match them up when you reassemble?

Here's a picture of the machine with the orange super bands on it. I think it looks good, but not sure about the play, the ball does take some odd bounces, which I assume means the composition reacts differently from the spin on the ball than rubber does. Not sure if I like it or not yet. I'm not good enough to be outraged about the play with them on the machine, but I can see how people at a much higher level might not like the change of play, even though they might be more accurate in the long run.

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Here are a couple pictures of the addition of a dual spot on the lower left slingshot, purple LED's from pinballbulbs.com. The blue isn't as intense in person as it is in this picture, it adds a nice glow to the playfield, doesn't wash out the colors and let's you see the ball a whole lot better in the middle of the playfield.

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I agree about the MB, maybe someone could edit the ROM like Jurassic Park, they're changing that up with that one too.

Nice!

I had that on my JP, I would imagine it's nearly the same on LAH. Turned out being the kicker switch, the one that senses that one has been ejected from the trough and is ready to hit the shooter lane. I didn't see a trough detail drawing in the LAH manual, but the switch location chart shows that switch #15 might be the culprit.

Make sure that it actually triggers reliably, when there are balls going in and out of the trough during multiball it seems like mine would miss one every now and again. It wasn't sensed, so in reality you were not playing 6 ball multiball, you're playing 5 with one stuck, thus ball search kicks in and eventually fires the solenoid to shoot it out.

You'll probably get good tests but not work in real play. It's more of an alignment problem that a switch problem.

Jurassic park on steroids.

Tried to explain that a few posts above, nice video.

Yeah, it's a tough game, a lot of the shots are very dangerous.

Whens the party Paul, you have been building a super nice collection over the last year!

I have, they don't have a machine available to make one.

The quality is alright, not spectacular.

Mine make the balls do 180's all the time.

It's a tinkering hobby for sure. Still dig my LAH, best DE, well maybe next to GnR, never have played that.

What problem is that?

Not all the time, if the crane isn't over there when it hits the VUK it will go down the ramp instead. It doesn't wait for the crane to get over there before it kicks it up. You just have to make sure you're hitting the shot when you want to.

Yeah the game is better with the magnets IMO. Things get crazy

That is true I believe, I should have clarified that. Maybe Paul can clarify the operation.

Yeah, that sounds strange... The crane moves over there without some type of crane mode active, does it do that all the time?

Yeah, when all the magnets are working it really flings them around, mostly out the outlanes. I've seen them coming full speed down the playfield and then either do a 180 straight back up, or an immediate 90 right into the outlanes. Makes for good laughs, and I think it 'portrays' the quirkiness of the movie well.

Yes, I wonder if just getting longer legs in the back is an option. Here are son that are 2" longer http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/500-5921-50.

I prefer a more finished option.

Does that mean a kit is upcoming?

Does it register in the switch test? Is it missing the diode?

It seems like if you set multiball to hard in the menu, you are required to hit the captive balls to activate it....

What size is the Allen wrench for that and the lane diverter. Bigger than 3mm and smaller than 4mm. 3.5mm isn't really a standard size, is it really SAE 1/8 or 9/64?

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Finally finished doing my machine, turned out nice I think.

Oh, I don't know, I took my time with it, a week maybe. It was already pretty nice, but did a full clean, polish, wax etc. No mods, just the Cliffy's, bought some new crane decals a while ago too, I like the orange.

This one fits the cool white theme very well. The inserts just reflect the color of the insert itself, to intensify it.

You can make it harder to get setting multiball difficulty harder in the setup.

It increases the number of times you have to hit the captive balls to start multiball, so while it's not sure fire, since you can start multiball on ball one if you hit them enough times, it doesn't automatically award you multiball on ball three if you never hit a captive ball during the first two balls, it makes it harder.

Just try it, I think it will help with what you're looking for, but you might not like it.

I got my new golden ticket, my ticket is still very nice, so this will be like a really big protector. I'll take some shots once I install it this weekend. I'm excited.

It looks really great and is high quality material. Looking forward to applying it tomorrow!

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I didn't get it exactly right the first time so I had to take it off, unfortunately it did lift some of the original ticket around the eye so this is a permanent installation for me. I think it looks nice, but was hoping that I could remove it someday if I wanted and I suppose I could, but it isn't as simple as just peeling it up.

Although, the ticket must have some magical powers, because I got on the board for the first time tonight .

DE and Sega both have some very high default scores, and having the machine on the hard setting (which essentially does not guarantee multiball on the third ball unless you purposefully hit the captive balls during ball 1 and 2, or use the smart missile) and Cliffy's really makes the game much harder to get high scores on.

Best I could do Paul, the flash caused bad reflections. If you want better, your gonna just have to buy one and take your own pictures.

Just for you Paul.

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The decal is of quite high quality, it certainly wasn't any fault of yours. But those buying it, take your time and do it right the first time. If you want to remove it, use some heat and go slow, it is very sticky and did pull up some of the original art when I removed mine to reposition. I plan on buying another, removing this one and filling the low area and reapplying.

Does it happen, sure, very rarely on my machine. But you do realize these games were made to make money right? Try adjusting your launch exit a little, mine hits mostly the N and I rarely have this happen, maybe 1% of the time. Or, try some machine manipulation, give it a bump when it hits the targets, or try to save the drain...pinball is a physical game, get a little physical with it.

By cheap you mean unfair? When is gravity fair, it always wins. . If you think this game is unfair, try Whirlwind, or a hundred others far less fair.

Awesome! Thanks for posting here!

Do the crane switches work? I would also check the ball lock area switches in test mode as well.

That centaur comparison is a bit of a stretch if you ask me.

I broke down and bought a burner, should be here next week...along with an eraser.

No post, exactly like Jurassic Park too, or at least no rubber. These games were/are meant to make money.

I put in an LED OCD board, smooth fades with LED's just like incandescent. www.ocdled.com I would vote the single best aftermarket part for pinball machines ever created. Everyone is blown away when they see them in action. Not inexpensive, but not outrageously so either...and to me, the effect is worth it. LED brightness and colors with the beautiful fades that were intended with incandescent bulbs.

Just got back from a job out of town and my ROM burner is here, gonna burn 1.13 very soon! Pumped!

(and yes Paul, I bought a chip for you too and will burn one )

If you're going to do the LED OCD, you want the non-ghosting ones anyway.

edit: I should say you want the standard bulbs, the ones WITHOUT the non-ghosting circuit. Sorry for the confusion.

Had a chance to finally give the new 1.13 ROM a go. Excellent, makes an already excellent machine arguably the best DE made. Hit the ripper kickback during the ripper mode for the first time as well, a million points per switch is nothing to sneeze at!

Thanks for all your work caker!

2. Fuse? But why would the fuse blow...

1) The ROM is a 27C512
2) Yes
3) Wish I could be of more help, but I bought mine online from pinballroms.com already burnt.

I don't know about easier, just potentially more balls during the multiball.

Do you know how to read a schematic?

Excellent machine, if you need assistance getting a rom let me know.

A healthy LAH is a happy LAH!

I can attest to the awesomeness of this board, have it in my LAH and it's amazing!

If the pins of the new chip are angled outward too much to easily fit in the socket, set the chip with one side of the pins flat on the glass and gently roll the chip towards the pins, ever so gently bending all of the pins in a little, repeat for the other side. Do this until the pins line up better and you don't have to struggle to get the pins into the socket.

I think that was a fair deal, no shaker motor installed and no driver board for it either. But, looked nice and clean.

I wonder if your crane assembly is loose? If you try to move it with your have does it spin? Don't wrench on it, just see if it slips.

Well, there might be some play in the spindle, but the actual crane shouldn't 'slip'. I'll take some pics of mine tonight for a comparison.

I use dead drop foam in my scoop, works great, accurate shots just drop right in. Is affecting the kick out, but not terrible. Maybe remove some of the foam from the top and leave it in the back.

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Make sure the wires are all connected properly, no frays etc. Grab a volt meter and enter coil test and see what readings you get.