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Le Tour de France 2024 - Any Road Cycling Pinheads Out There?

By Mr_Tantrum

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#101 3 years ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

Completed my 3rd century ride just last week! From my house, to the shore. It took me just about 6 hours to go 100 miles on my bike to get to Cape May. Since I made the trip solo this year, I wrote (bad) songs to keep my mind occupied. Get ready for soon-to-be-album-hits like:
“This Road Goes On Forever”
“No One Needs a Truck That Big”
“My Ass is Killing Me”
And the summer love song hit single:
“That Runner is Pretty Cute”
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Impressive ride, and looks like you weren't even clipped in. To get some perspective on just how good the pros are, compare your ride to today's race where the winner completed the 123.5 mile ride with 14,764 feet of elevation gain in 5-1/4 hours.

I really don't think a non-cyclist can truly appreciate the athletic ability of these tour riders. When I was at my peak cycling shape a few years back, I did several 100K rides (never a 100 miler), and thought I was kicking butt. I signed up for a rally a few hours away that primarily went around a lake, and figured I'd have a great time. Well, that day I did about 3,500 feet of climbing, pretty much bonked with about 20 miles to go, and had the most miserable ride of my life.

#102 3 years ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

To get some perspective on just how good the pros are, compare your ride to today's race where the winner completed the 123.5 mile ride with 14,764 feet of elevation gain in 5-1/4 hours.

That's wild, considering I really felt like I was cruising on my ride. My elevation gain was only 2,086 feet... I really only stopped twice for the bathroom and to refill water. My only issue was a consistent head wind that really dragged me down for the last 20 miles or so.

#103 3 years ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

That's wild, considering I really felt like I was cruising on my ride. My elevation gain was only 2,086 feet... I really only stopped twice for the bathroom and to refill water. My only issue was a consistent head wind that really dragged me down for the last 20 miles or so.

I have a saying that whenever I ride the entire route is uphill and in to the wind, regardless of where I go - just always seems that way. Still, very impressive solo ride. Longer rides like that would be even more fun if you had 2 to 3 other riders where you could take turns in the lead. I do enjoy riding solo and clearing my head while setting my own pace, but occasional group rides are also great to up the speed and get some relief from the wind at times.

#104 3 years ago

Disappointing day for me as Sagan is my favorite rider. He's had a touch tour, especially after the sprint crash, and had to drop out today. However, his teammate came through and too the victory.

#105 3 years ago

Anyone else notice the podiums have gone PC? Usually there are always two women for each award to the side of the cyclist, but now there is a lady and a dude.

#106 3 years ago

Huge cycling fan here! Living 30 mins by boat from France means we go to watch it most years.

I completed the Etape du Tour in 2017 and 2019 where us mere mortals can complete a mountain stage for the Tour a few days before the pro's.

2017 - 202km & 3,664m (125.5 miles & 12,021ft)
2019 - 135km & 4,374m (84 miles & 14,350ft)

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#107 3 years ago

Just WOW! What a great finish by Cav to tie the TDF stage wins record today. Deceuninck has done a superb job putting sprint leadout guys on the team this year (heck, I think leadout man could have run the race today if he didn't let off the gas to let Cav pass).

Can't help but wonder what the French think about the Brit tying the record (with a great probability of breaking it).

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#108 3 years ago

Yes, Michael Morcov gets the MVP (Most Valuable Pedaler) award for more-or-less letting Cav take the stage win. He clearly eased up at the end and probably would have won the stage if he hadn't. But that's what teammates do, and he's proved to be one of the best ever. Cav should be buying him drinks for life at this point. Morcov's stock value as a lead-out man is sky high now. Of course if Cav hadn't gotten caught in traffic with a few hundred meters to go, the win would probably have been more definitive with no question of anyone easing off. Either way, Cav is showing his GOAT Green today. BRAVO Mark Cavendish!

#109 3 years ago

I don't think the layperson understands just how critical teamwork is in cycling, and all of the planning and strategy that goes into picking the right members who will help achieve a team's overall goals. Then there is all of the strategy that goes into each stage. Of course, then the team and the leader have to actually execute. Then there is each team member knowing their role and responsibility to use their skills and talents to support the leader at all times knowing that if they succeed and show promise, then they will get their opportunities in the future. Also, this gives the riders who are very good but not elite, the opportunity to not only participate but to contribute to team success.

When it comes to cycling, I'm not saying that some of these 4-5 hour stages can't be a little boring at times, but I think to enjoy the full ride a spectator needs to build their knowledge of tactics, teamwork, and other elements of the sport.

#110 3 years ago

Teamwork, like some of Cav's team helping him make the time limit the past few days, too, not just setting up the final sprints.

Strategy, even when to ease off for part of a day to set yourself or a teammate up for the next stage. Quintana said after today's stage that he eased up the last 10km to better prepare for tomorrow. I'm sure he did that to try to protect his KoM lead.

It's good for the sport that they have the other classifications; that gives a much higher portion of the riders a realistic goal to aim for. Your choice of GC, sprint, mountains or stage wins, plus all the "good but not great" riders who can aim to help their team win the team event or help a team member win one or more of the classifications or stages.

How'd you like the two-way drafting in the crosswind the other day with the riders all lined up not just in a row but at an angle based on the wind? When the peloton broke up into 3 or 4 groups, each spread out diagonally, it made for great aerial footage.

#111 3 years ago

Also love to ride. This is my baby

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#112 3 years ago

Just came across a couple pics of this rare beauty.

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#113 3 years ago

I hate rest days.

#114 3 years ago

Viva la America!

Very nice win today in the mountains, plus left doper Valverde in second place!

For those not aware: https://www.velonews.com/news/analysis-the-curious-case-of-alejandro-valverde

#115 3 years ago

As long as Valverde doesn't win, I will sleep at night. What a tour so far and I have just been surviving on the text feed since I was out of broadband range. I am pretty jazzed with all the cyclocrossers like Merlier, Van Der Poel and Van Aert sticking it to the seasoned roadies. I want to know if anyone in the world put a bet down on Cav winning 5 - they will make a fortune! I ride em all, CX, road, mountain but love the cross. Pic is from Mallorca a few years ago...

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#116 3 years ago

I love it that there isn’t a dominant team this year and anything can happen on any day.

#117 3 years ago
Quoted from Deleenhe:

As long as Valverde doesn't win, I will sleep at night. What a tour so far and I have just been surviving on the text feed since I was out of broadband range. I am pretty jazzed with all the cyclocrossers like Merlier, Van Der Poel and Van Aert sticking it to the seasoned roadies. I want to know if anyone in the world put a bet down on Cav winning 5 - they will make a fortune! I ride em all, CX, road, mountain but love the cross. Pic is from Mallorca a few years ago...
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Nice! I love cycling in Mallorca, Sa Calobra in an amazing climb.

I hope to do the Mallorca 312 next year - 312km & 5,050m (194 miles & 16,568ft) That will be a long, hard day in the saddle!

https://milestoneseries.cc/en/event/mallorca-312

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#118 3 years ago

Not sure how I missed this thread before. Probably because I typically go straight to the EM sub forum.

Have been a cyclist since 1985, when I took it up to give my body a break from running. Raced local amateur road events back around 2000 as a Cat 5 then 4, but switched to time trials and multisport after that when I realized I didn't have the stomach to fight for position in the local pelotons and risk the crashes.

I try to watch coverage of just about every TdF stage and love seeing the tactics, hard efforts, and scenery/countryside. Went over to France with a few friends in July 2017 to cycle in the Pyrenees for a week and watch 2 stages of the '17 Tour. Had a blast. Looking forward to Wed's stage which goes through Luchon (where we stayed) and climbs the Cat 1 Peyresourde (which I climbed in addition to the HC Super Bagniere, which hasn't been used since the late 80s).

Loved watching the Durango Kid get away for the win yesterday!

Lee

#119 3 years ago
Quoted from jsyjay:

Nice! I love cycling in Mallorca, Sa Calobra in an amazing climb.
I hope to do the Mallorca 312 next year - 312km & 5,050m (194 miles & 16,568ft) That will be a long, hard day in the saddle!
https://milestoneseries.cc/en/event/mallorca-312
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That looks like an awesomely fun day of riding (of course, I would start at the top and go downhill).

#120 3 years ago
Quoted from jsyjay:

Nice! I love cycling in Mallorca, Sa Calobra in an amazing climb.
I hope to do the Mallorca 312 next year - 312km & 5,050m (194 miles & 16,568ft) That will be a long, hard day in the saddle!
https://milestoneseries.cc/en/event/mallorca-312
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That is an awesome photo of Sa Calobra! I've never been able to capture it in any decent way. Drone? My biggest ride there was Esporles to Andratx and then the coast road to Soller, Puig Major and then the descent to Pollenca and on to Alcudia. I can't imagine the 312, I think my fun-meter would run out at 200km.

#121 3 years ago
Quoted from Pyromedic:

Just came across a couple pics of this rare beauty.
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Any more information on that vintage TdF pinball/bagatelle? Manufacturer? Date of production? Etc.

#122 3 years ago
Quoted from Deleenhe:

That is an awesome photo of Sa Calobra! I've never been able to capture it in any decent way. Drone? My biggest ride there was Esporles to Andratx and then the coast road to Soller, Puig Major and then the descent to Pollenca and on to Alcudia. I can't imagine the 312, I think my fun-meter would run out at 200km.

The picture is stolen from the internet but yes it had to be from a drone.

It would definitely be a case of mind over matter when you get towards the end but I am the most stubborn person ever so I think (hope) I can complete it!

Big day today, shame it is another downhill finish though... Probably one for the breakaway so I'm predicting another stage win for Wout van Aert.

I'm really enjoying the polka dot jersey race, a lot of teams are really going for it this year!

#123 3 years ago
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#124 3 years ago

Just an awesome ride today. Pogacar is definitely the man again this year, and a very impressive ride by the white jersey.

#125 3 years ago

Time gaps really widening now; 13th place now almost half an hour behind Tadej. Anyone think he has a chance to win by 10 minutes? What's the modern record?

#126 3 years ago

With just 1 mountain stage remaining, the gaps will probably stay about the same or even decrease some since he has the tour won. I assume his team will keep him protected, and just make sure nobody gains serious time. Also, he does have a great chance of putting a few more seconds on everyone during the TT since he won the first one.

Smallest time gap - 0:08 Greg LeMond in 1989
Largest time gap - 28:17 Fausto Coppi in 1952

Single stage largest time gap - 22:50 Jose Luis Viejo in 1976

BTW, Pogacar would be 2-0 in Tour de France appearances, which is quite amazing.

#127 3 years ago

Another stage win today for Tadej; probably has the polka dot jersey locked up now, too. I figured he might take this stage and add a bit to his lead, then add a bit more during the TT; wasn't sure if he could get it to 10 minutes or not. They'll be asking "how many tours will he win?"

The other question is will Cav win #35 Sunday on the Champs Elysees?

#128 3 years ago

Cav is going to win on Friday then smoke the field on the Champs a la “Chasing Legends”.

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#129 3 years ago

Yellow + White + Polka Dot, and the kid is only 22.

#130 3 years ago

Well, another TDF in the books. Cav made a mistake and got boxed in at the end which lost him the sprint and record 35 TDF wins. On the plus side, now maybe he'll be motivated to return next year. The two young riders appear to be dominant for the foreseeable future, with Podacar being measurably ahead of the field at this point.

Cycling might be one of the few events I watch in this year's Olympics, and typically I casually follow the Velta de Espana (Aug 14). Outside of that, the Tour of Utah (July 26) is typically on my watch list.

#131 3 years ago

So much for my predictions (typical) but I am happy that my favourite rider in the peloton won on the Champs. Wout executed it perfectly, seems like Quickstep stuffed up the leadout when they got swamped with one km to go and Cav made a bad decision on positioning. I am a huge spring classics fan, I love the 1 day races but this year's tour was raced by many like 1 days which was awesome. It will be interesting to see if MVDP wins the mountain bike.

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#132 2 years ago

Great start to the Tour this year. Sprint finishes have been exciting and the Denmark fans have been awesome.

#133 2 years ago

Agreed! My only disappointment so far is no stage today - always love a stage on my day off and seeing if any Americans try to get in the break on the 4th.

Cort has been a delight, and I'm glad Jakobsen got a stage early so we won't be hearing about as many Cav "what ifs" (although I do think QuickStep is bonkers to leave him - and the PR of breaking the record - out of it this year).

#134 2 years ago
Quoted from onemilemore:

Agreed! My only disappointment so far is no stage today - always love a stage on my day off and seeing if any Americans try to get in the break on the 4th.
Cort has been a delight, and I'm glad Jakobsen got a stage early so we won't be hearing about as many Cav "what ifs" (although I do think QuickStep is bonkers to leave him - and the PR of breaking the record - out of it this year).

I'm no Cav fan at all (not sure why, just never like him), but I do have tremendous respect for him. While Jakobsen's story is inspiring and he is a worthy world-class sprinter, I have to agree with you that the PR of Cav would have probably meant more for the team and definitely would have meant more for the Tour's publicity overall.

#135 2 years ago

I'm just glad I don't have to put up with Valverde this year. Can stand that doping cheater. I read he was in a hit and run accident a couple of days ago and had to go to the hospital. While I won't take any joy in such a thing, I will not miss him being in the Tour.

I guess part of my frustration is not with him, but with the UCI officials overall and even the commentators. Sort of like the steroid era in baseball - either punish all the dopers the same or don't punish any of them but mark them with an asterisk. Kills me they vacated Armstrong's 7 wins against fellow dopers but the others didn't receive equal punishment. I'm sure there is very deep resentment on the part of the French that an American dominated the tour for so many years which probably contributed greatly to their actions, but inconsistency just seems overtly obvious to me. Don't get me wrong, Lance was/is a grade A (insert your own expletive here), but doesn't mean he should have been treated any differently than his contemporaries.

Also, makes no sense to wipe those races from the record books as if they never happened when we all know they did. Valverde was a banned for two years for doping, and during races I watch with him all the commentators still gush over his racing without ever bringing up his past.

#136 2 years ago

One more post on the topic today (still haven't watched today's stage 4 yet), is that overall I'm enjoying the commentating team both live and in the studio. While I certainly miss Paul, I think that Phil and Bob mesh well together. Phil is the conservative play-by-play guy and Bob brings the color commentary to cycling like Bill Walton does to basketball. Back in the studio, Brumeister is good, I've always liked Christian Vande Velde, and Chris Horner is getting better/more comfortable in the role. I think the only one I find a little annoying is the new guy (forgetting his name at the moment) on the motorbike in the peloton. I know it is his first year doing the job after coming from the professional tour, so I'll cut him a little slack.

#137 2 years ago

Great race this year. Love the sprint finishes. Not nearly enough crashes, though.

I'm going to miss Phil Liggett when he's gone. Can't imagine anyone else calling these races...and I get a feeling with the 50-year video montage they did for him today, he might be leaving very soon...

#138 2 years ago

Do you have to have NBCs streaming service to watch this year?

#139 2 years ago
Quoted from Vandy89:

Do you have to have NBCs streaming service to watch this year?

No. But they're pulling this bullshit where the first 1-2 hours is streaming, and then they pick up the race from 8 AM eastern time on regular TV. Pisses me off and I'm still not getting suckered into Peacock.

#140 2 years ago

Most of the race is on USA Network, but if you want the full race (ie the beginning) you’ll need a Peacock subscription.

#141 2 years ago

There have been minimal crashes this year. Makes for more intrigue as we get deeper into the race with more complete and healthy teams.

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#143 1 year ago
Quoted from MrCleanHead:

Just got back into cycling after 30 years. My fitness is total garbage. I picked up this gem this year on the cheap and slowly going to upgrade it. I thought pinball got expensive. Sticker shock on the new bikes and accessories are mind blowing.
Any Zwifter's out there?
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While this thread is mainly for discussing the Tour, there is a Pinside Bicycle Garage thread where you can discuss all things cycling.

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#144 1 year ago

The 2023 Tour de France has begun. I just finished watching Stage 1, but no spoilers (hint - look out for the twins).

- You can watch all stages live on Peacock
- You can watch all stages next day on USA network (what I'm doing via DVR)

Looking forward to the next 3 weeks!

Route | https://www.letour.fr/en/overall-route
Teams & Riders | https://www.letour.fr/en/riders

#145 1 year ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

The 2023 Tour de France has begun. I'm only about halfway through watching the first stage, so no spoilers.
- You can watch all stages live on Peacock
- You can watch all stages next day on USA network (what I'm doing via DVR)
Looking forward to the next 3 weeks!
Route | https://www.letour.fr/en/overall-route
Teams & Riders | https://www.letour.fr/en/riders

I'm all in, just like I always am this time of year. Complete horseshit that I have to sign up for Peacock to watch it...I avoided doing so even though I'm a British Premiere League fan and most of those games are only available through Peacock. So I paid my $4.95 and I'll cancel when it's over. Just frustrating that money from ads isn't enough anymore.

#146 1 year ago

I'm a huge football fan, and sports fan in general. Even so, not sure what it is about cycling, but the Tour is my absolute favorite sporting event of the year.

#147 1 year ago

Love watching the tour. Ive been cycling on all types of bike since the mid 80's. I've rode and raced, BMX, road bikes, mountain bikes and cyclocross. I'm now 52 and just this last year have decided to give up road riding. Sold my Cervelo. Ive had to many friends hit or killed by distracted drivers. I stick with off road riding now. Either my mountain bike or my gravel bike. My life has revolved around bicycles as I grew up working in a shop and then owning my own shops and even having an online bike shop. Closed my shops in 2001. My job the last 20 years has been the farthest it could be from bicycles as I am now doing computer IT. However, I still am involved with bicycles and have all my tools/stands etc. Occasionally I'll fix bikes and/or will help out one of the local shop (my friends shop).
But Pinball has been a newish love. I just love fixing/restoring things. Of course I have newer games as well. So you are not alone in your love for bicycles/cycling.
Keep the rubber side down!

#148 1 year ago

For those of you who are not really into cycling or have never watched it but want to get an idea of some of the most exciting elements of the sport, then here is what I always suggest:

- Find a stage classified as a sprint stage (this year Stage 3 on Monday will be the first). BTW, even though these are "sprint" stages the term really means that the overall stage which may very well be 100K+ in distance is relatively flat (for professional riders) and the men who specialize as sprinters (vs. climbers or GC- General Cassification contenders) will have endured the course well enough to be in the contention to win the stage at the end.
- DVR it and fast forward to the point where there is 10K left (there will be a box usually at the top left of the screen that shows the remaining KM/Miles).
- Now you will have about 15 minutes of uninterrupted high-speed cycling racing to the finish.

During the sprints you will see team strategy (yes, professional cycling is a team sport), constant jockeying for position, team lead outs for the best sprinters in the world for the last few kilometers, top speeds around 45MPH or higher on a flat just from their own pedaling (I challenge you to see how fast you can ride a bike on a flat road), and a lot of bumping between riders. Unfortunately, this is sometimes where the absolute worst crashes happen. I'm talking about bloody, broken bones, season ending, and career ending types of crashes. I never wish for this and I always cringe when it happens, but these are the world's most elite cyclists with the utmost competitive spirit to win.

#149 1 year ago

What does everything think about the commentators this year?

Personally, I really like the race crew. Phil is classic and Bob's color is engaging and entertaining. I'm also a fan of Christian Vande Velde and having him in the motorcade this year adds to the coverage, IMO.

Now to the studio. I'm not happy with it at all. I'm fine with Burmeister as the host but the new Sam Bewley and Brent Bookwalter were terrible (at least on the first day). Hopefully, they will improve but their redundancy and gabbing on and on without actually saying anything drove me crazy.

#150 1 year ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

What does everything think about the commentators this year?
Personally, I really like the race crew. Phil is classic and Bob's color is engaging and entertaining. I'm also a fan of Christian Vande Velde and having him in the motorcade this year adds to the coverage, IMO.
Now to the studio. I'm not happy with it at all. I'm fine with Burmeister as the host but the new Sam Bewley and Brent Bookwalter were terrible (at least on the first day). Hopefully, they will improve but their redundancy and gabbing on and on without actually saying anything drove me crazy.

My upvote says it all. Just think what the race will be like when Phil retires. He's the voice of the race...it wouldn't be right with anyone else.

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