Galesburg, MI
Actually you may be able to tell from the pics, 19/20ths of a dimple pattern. its going to have to be good enough. it was cut to fit in a drop ceiling grid.
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Quoted from greatwichjohn:Yes insurance is bullshit. Learned that many years ago shipping. I use UPS & add no insurance. Just value everything shipped as $100 total value. Over the years had very little damage to playfields shipped in double wall inside & outside box sets. Cost for a set around $40. The great thing is they can be reused or given to others you know to ship playfields.
What happens in the event the shipment never makes it or is severely damaged ( playfield cracked or what not)?
Quoted from chad:What happens in the event the shipment never makes it or is severely damaged ( playfield cracked or what not)?
In my business it has not happened in 12 or 13 years once I designed a wood shipping crate that is designed for abuse, but keeps in mind the smaller and lighter the less it cost to ship. I wont send any pf that I cleared in anything but a crate.
if a pf is damaged in transit its just like anything else, you make a claim and hope it gets paid. Like I mentioned above I just got my second appeal denied for the insurance I paid to usps for 3200 wortth of coins that was lost/stolen, because of the delivery person. what can I do sue the post office. yes, but I dont have an attorney on retainer any more.
So here is a question for everyone, or maybe you can pass it on to anyone you may know that has an experience or opinion:
I have a client that has an original MM game, and owns a CGC repro pf. the question is we know the dimples are off, but otherwise, is it feasible? any info is appreciated. Thank you.
Halifax, NS
I self insured & took care of any problems from shipments. Just like destroyed glass. With my packages it was about 3% chance of damage. Try collecting from insured shipments to see how they do not pay. Even in a wooden crate they can still do damage. Just like UPS with the forklift tire mark on a playfield double box that broke the shooter lane.
Quoted from edward472:What happened to the squirrels? Or did I miss the post where your set them free to roam Michigan?
I would like to know myself. One day I got a text from my girl that it was over, and she would talk about it after she digested it for a day. She blocked everything, wouldnt return or accept calls. her parents blocked me. Then a month later, she is in love with another and all over face book with pics of him and them, but not cedar, poplar, and cherry. So no frickin idea. They would have fared best here, but whats best for the kids is rarely the issue in a divorce.
Quoted from kruzman:I would like to know myself. One day I got a text from my girl that it was over, and she would talk about it after she digested it for a day. She blocked everything, wouldnt return or accept calls. her parents blocked me. Then a month later, she is in love with another and all over face book with pics of him and them, but not cedar, poplar, and cherry. So no frickin idea. They would have fared best here, but whats best for the kids is rarely the issue in a divorce.
She took the squirrels! That's cold man. Sorry I brought it up. I was just curious.
My buddy Nic and his beautiful wife, drove out from wyoming yesterday and picked up his paragon repro that was sitting in my spare room since aug I think. I forgot I had it, but we unwrapped it half way to see how the cleared faired over the 4 or 5 months, and it was PERTFECT!!! I have a nos paragon in the studio, and I thought it was done, but I may make the key line thicker around one star roll over. actually I should ask the owners opinion. since there is a lot of clear down all ready, it wont be prefect if I paint on top of a couple coats (assuming I sand off a lot, there will still be a couple coats since I used clear to level the pf and inserts. I am Very happy with the results of this nos, but NOS paragons are are so much work all of those inserts need to be painted, especially after I sand it. It seems like cpr did their best work on that pf for some reason. every one I have done, has been a beauty.
Thank you for the meat. I was sharing the sticks last night with lucky strangers.
If anyone has a nos or repro pf that want to sell or trade for work, now is the time. Let me know.
Hapy holidays and thanks so much for the support, not just for the job I have but all of the great folks I get tight with. It can suck selling something you create, and when I get to know people, I get excited for them, and want to bug them to get it installed!!
Quoted from kruzman:I should ask the owners opinion.
My gut reaction is to just say that I trust your opinion… but if you want to send me a snap of the area in question I’d be happy to throw in my two cents. Either way, sincere thanks for the consideration.
here is the nos paragon. Right now I am liking the way it looks, mostly because it looks like the repro that I like, and its just sitting better, when I think of it installed, with the plastics and posts and what not. also the other nos DM I am working on. The DM required a lot of paint work, as well as the paragon.
20211224_140416 (resized).jpg20211224_140526 (resized).jpg20211224_140543 (resized).jpg20211224_140639 (resized).jpg20211224_140832 (resized).jpg20211224_140836 (resized).jpg20211224_140840 (resized).jpgNos I500 that needed all inserts painted plus the red arch and the red areas in the middle where the front ends of the cars hit the red. A Grand liz. thios is the first pf I cam clearing used without any paint work. I removed the mylar and did a bunch of sanding and 2 coats. Goping to leave it as is, and put a kruzman clear on it (flat and perfect)
also some work on a nos ft. those big ugly fish on the loops always need to be painted because the crack around the inserts shows good on the white, plus all of the inserts had a crack in it
20211224_140719 (resized).jpg20211224_140733 (resized).jpg20211224_140934 (resized).jpg20211224_140951 (resized).jpg20211224_141000 (resized).jpg20211224_141016 (resized).jpg20211224_141234 (resized).jpg20211224_141247 (resized).jpg20211224_141258 (resized).jpg20211224_141309 (resized).jpgI thought it was odd this morning that louie was waiting at the door rather than sleeping in his heated bed in the shop, in my kayak. he followed me out to the shop and when I opened the door I heard a tussle over at the kayak, and saw the brown hair and figured another deer came in. Then I realized it was a big brown pit bull. a big un. I had the door closed behind me, and he of course had no collar and was growling at me. I got down low to show submissive, and was using my nice voice, and I never got that break where his tail started to wag or ears relaxed, so I opened the door, and stepped aside, and he went for the door. I have never seen a pit bull move that fast.
I know dogs well, and have been bit plenty, and the way he ran without even looking back to see if I was giving chase tell me he was not looking to make friends.
I am out far enough that the one county sheriff who does the dogs wont come out unless you have caught the dog all ready. I have a cat trap that works great, but this is a good 80 lbs dog.
anyway ol louie was smart enough to keep his distance, and wait for me to walk out there with him. He is a lover, not a fighter after all.
FYI to you, Ron or anyone wanting to get something for him to work on, CPR has a nice end of year sale going on.
Quoted from JLay:The FT playfield is looking good Ron! Been hoping it would pop up here sometime. The swap will be a fun project this year…
It sure is. very happy with it. FT is a great game to restore because its affordable relatively speaking and I have never tired of it. If you have the money, getting the reel and hardware nickel plated is amazing!
yesterday the weather was 55 and sunny and I wasnt in the mood to work, and I could have sanded everything outside. today freezing rain slush sucks!
DUHO!
Quoted from kruzman:A Grand liz. thios is the first pf I cam clearing used without any paint work. I removed the mylar and did a bunch of sanding and 2 coats. Goping to leave it as is, and put a kruzman clear on it (flat and perfect)
It's Lizzy! Excited for this experiment 
Quoted from dmacy:FYI to you, Ron or anyone wanting to get something for him to work on, CPR has a nice end of year sale going on.
https://classicplayfields.com/year-end-sale-2021/
Picked up a wizard and flash gordon pfs, plus the plastics for the wizard 1800 for all shipped. good enough. I want to get another wizard game, but the only one around here is way out of my price range.
BH playfields arrived, Ron’s work is unparalleled. Pictures don’t do it justice. Thanks Ron for helping me with this crazy idea, and executing it so perfectly.
Here’s a sneak peek, lower playfield UV reactive paint effect is much more pronounced in person.
A291BFD7-0FF3-4A30-9497-AED9C3C1AC6C (resized).jpegQuoted from knockerlover:BH playfields arrived, Ron’s work is unparalleled. Pictures don’t do it justice. Thanks Ron for helping me with this crazy idea, and executing it so perfectly.
Here’s a sneak peek, lower playfield UV reactive paint effect is much more pronounced in person.[quoted image]
Hells yea! That came out great. I didnt have a black light, so I made sure to tripple coat the things I painted because the paint was thin, but I couldnt tell what I had painted,so I just did my best. This is going to be an amazing game!
Quoted from knockerlover:BH playfields arrived, Ron’s work is unparalleled. Pictures don’t do it justice. Thanks Ron for helping me with this crazy idea, and executing it so perfectly.
Here’s a sneak peek, lower playfield UV reactive paint effect is much more pronounced in person.[quoted image]
Is there a light kit available, made for this application? or are you putting something together your self? also whats involved?
Quoted from kruzman:Is there a light kit available, made for this application? or are you putting something together your self? also whats involved?
The lower playfield area is illuminated with #313 28v bulbs. There is a documented modification to convert them to 6VDC.
I plan to leverage the existing lower playfield illumination with UV LED towers, and possibly mix in some white. Will need to experiment with the Playfield window to see if blue is translucent enough or if I need to create a clear one.
Quoted from knockerlover:The lower playfield area is illuminated with #313 28v bulbs. There is a documented modification to convert them to 6VDC.
https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Black_Hole#Replacing_Black_Hole_Lower_Playfield_Illumination_Lamps_with_.2344_Lamps
I plan to leverage the existing lower playfield illumination with UV LED towers, and possibly mix in some white. Will need to experiment with the Playfield window to see if blue is translucent enough or if I need to create a clear one.
Re: BH window. I see what you mean. originally they used the tint of the lens to sort of achieve the effect. So if you have nice strong UV lights plus some white, it could be a little darker than you want. very cool.
This is a mirco BK2k that I took a pic after wet blocking, before polishing. Then one after polish. I still have to clean the compound out of the edges and put a coat of wax down. This had either ghosting, or it could have been glue showing in the inserts so I had to make the key lines about 2 times the original size. It looked pretty crappy. It came out great. very happy.
20220102_155511 (resized).jpg20220103_082122 (resized).jpgso this is an IPB TAF pf. There are 2 areas of concern I want to talk about here, and they are also an issue on the cpr versions (but not mirco).
First there is the purple box where there is suppose to be a UPC sticker. sometimes there is the empty purple box sometimes it says addams fam inside the box.
Personally I would want a upc sticker in there even if there were no box like on the mircos, but the empty or box with TAF in it are an obvious flags that it is not an original or nos pf. so I have upc stickers available. They wont be the same number as the serial number on your game, but I think only a cop would compare VIN numbers.
The other thing is for some reason the IPB and CPR pfs are not fully drilled in the pop bumpers and around the fester hole. there are 4-6 holes that have to be drilled on both sides of that hole. Plus youmay notice that the holes for the 3 pop bumper lugs, and the 2 holes for the wires are not done.
so if you want this stuff done please let me know. There are 2 tafs in the shop right now that this applies to, so let me know if you want me to drill or add a UPC sticker.
Thanks again for your support, ron k
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Quoted from rockwell:It's Lizzy! Excited for this experiment
I just epoxied the back of the inserts on the G Liz. I have 2 coats of clear down and I noticed that there was a bit of movement with the changes in temp. the shop varies from 45 to 75 thru the day and night.
This week I sprayed coats on the IJ, NOS demo man (the one I sold. I have 2 in the shop right now), last coat on the LOTR. I dont remember if I sprayed the nos FT. I thought i was done spraying it but I decided it needed another set of 2 coats, because of the paint work, and it was nos rather than repro.
The monopoly and hobbit are block sanded waiting for polish
Quoted from kruzman:I just epoxied the back of the inserts on the G Liz. I have 2 coats of clear down and I noticed that there was a bit of movement with the changes in temp. the shop varies from 45 to 75 thru the day and night.
This week I sprayed coats on the IJ, NOS demo man (the one I sold. I have 2 in the shop right now), last coat on the LOTR. I dont remember if I sprayed the nos FT. I thought i was done spraying it but I decided it needed another set of 2 coats, because of the paint work, and it was nos rather than repro.
The monopoly and hobbit are block sanded waiting for polish
Appreciate your attention to detail. Can't wait to see the final product.
Quoted from kruzman:I just epoxied the back of the inserts on the G Liz. I have 2 coats of clear down and I noticed that there was a bit of movement with the changes in temp. the shop varies from 45 to 75 thru the day and night.
This week I sprayed coats on the IJ, NOS demo man (the one I sold. I have 2 in the shop right now), last coat on the LOTR. I dont remember if I sprayed the nos FT. I thought i was done spraying it but I decided it needed another set of 2 coats, because of the paint work, and it was nos rather than repro.
The monopoly and hobbit are block sanded waiting for polish
Oh the DM may be mine? Awww yeah…
Quoted from underlord:Oh the DM may be mine? Awww yeah…
Yes sir, I locked down the paint work, and I have to do just 2 super thin lines, that I have to tape, and the take kept lifting my paint work and pissing me off.
I have been playing the DM at a local bar it looks and plays like new, and if it had this pf, lord have mercy, its going to be so fast!!!
They have 50 pins at thei place called one well, and between the pins and the 2 person gituar hero, they are making some bank!!!! its only 75 cents per game. Even on the GnR le (second highest score last I checked). I had chris put my name in and it took the pic of him! thats what I get for wanting to relax and have my coffee.
here is a couple pics of the nos ss I am working on. all of the paint work is done, now I just need to build up 4 more thin coats.
I have been working till 8-9 the last 2 weeks because everything slows down so much when it gets this cold and the snow makes it so I cant sand outside. it takes a long time to get the spray room to 75 deg. still not getting as much done as in the warm times, but I am looking at it in the long run. I think most folks know I work 7 days a week, but I do work slow. efficient, but slow. High quality... but slow
20220106_153243 (resized).jpg20220106_153332 (resized).jpg20220106_153342 (resized).jpg20220106_153351 (resized).jpg20220106_153415 (resized).jpgSo my buddy and I are finally getting around to doing our Shadow PF swap. Big thanks to Ron and his amazing work on my CPR Gold PF, I couldn't be happier with the end result. Here are some pics before it gets installed and a pic of the original PF. Ron also did the Mini PF, but I forgot to take pics of that.
I'll be sure to post pics of it fully assembled!
PXL_20220107_031109005 (resized).jpgShadow1 (resized).jpegShadow2 (resized).jpegQuoted from CashMoney:So my buddy and I are finally getting around to doing our Shadow PF swap.
What a beauty that's going to be.....
Quoted from pinster68:What a beauty that's going to be.....
Yeah, take the glass off the top of that playfield it looks so deep.
Shadow is many of the pins that can stand on its own with just its art and looks! Or the bally christiansen games. sometimes that are not that deep but wowza. I really dig when people post pics of getting them installed. It motivates the heck out of me. I gotta get off my ass!!!!~!
Quoted from CashMoney:So my buddy and I are finally getting around to doing our Shadow PF swap. Big thanks to Ron and his amazing work on my CPR Gold PF, I couldn't be happier with the end result. Here are some pics before it gets installed and a pic of the original PF. Ron also did the Mini PF, but I forgot to take pics of that.
I'll be sure to post pics of it fully assembled!
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Please try to remember to send pics of it done, or partially. I am always interested to see how much people do you make it their work. even if its just the little things. Like mike schudel makes his own ramp flaps. they look amazing. Also I have been talking to a customer who makes custom targets. so instead of a rivet in the center, there is a small mach screw, and he prints anything you want on them. I am hoping he starts a little side biz doing it because its so cool, and not obvious at first, but once you notice it, they are very delux!
Quoted from kruzman:Please try to remember to send pics of it done, or partially. I am always interested to see how much people do you make it their work. even if its just the little things. Like mike schudel makes his own ramp flaps. they look amazing. Also I have been talking to a customer who makes custom targets. so instead of a rivet in the center, there is a small mach screw, and he prints anything you want on them. I am hoping he starts a little side biz doing it because its so cool, and not obvious at first, but once you notice it, they are very delux!
Yes, I’ll be sure to send some partial pics Ron! Thanks for the email with your advice on how to assemble the CPR PF. Your drill kit will be very helpful with the swap process.
My buddy said he can do custom lighting on my stand up targets so I’ll be sure to post pics of that.
Chris at the hot rod arcade re-plated all of the ramps and gun handle. Going to look fantastic on top of your beautiful PF.
Finished the monopoly last night and the JJ hobbit the day before.
I have the LOTR block sanded and ready to polish next. Its been too cold to spray since monday. when its below 30 my sander freezes up, so this weekend and the following days I will have to conncentrate on art work, and drill and dimple.
I need to make a template for who dunnit and CONGO if anyone has a used pf I can borrow I will pay for the shipping, and owe you a favor.
I will try to take some pics of the monopoly and hobbit right before I wrap them
FOR POTC OWNERS:
I am always happy to see other people making parts or assemblies, or upgrades, or services for pinball in their home/barn. My bud michael is unbelieveable talented with electrical design as well as mechanical, and came up with a new system for the ship motor assembly on Pirates of the carrebean. Me and my sister love that game, and I have heard that when on route the motor that brings the ship down dies.
so michael designed a new board and motor assembly for the ship and sent me some pics. I have to ask if I can post the video, but if I can I will. This could be great for people with this game. I know its a very expensive fix, and his goal was to make it much less expensive. I love this kind of stuff. so watch for me to post links for it (if he agrees) and you can contact him if you need one!
here are some pics of a LOTR that came out perfect. Love it though I have never owned that game. also a pic of louie, and the river over the banks
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Quoted from dhard:Louie says as the real star of this thread he'd like some sardines while he watches you work [quoted image]
since dum dum is deaf now, he lays in his new bed up on a work table while I run the polisher or sander. occasionally the compressor will be off as well as all equipment and I can hear him doing his version of a purr which is more like a mourning dove. its great. I just wish he could work and talk at the same time.
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