Quoted from robotron:yeah I don't know why we have to fix factory defects. really pathetic!
Because you buy games that aren't complete at release.
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Okay please let this post serve as warning to anyone trying to troll this thread or get it off topic. If you continue past this point permanent thread ejects will be the result.
This thread has some very useful information on it for Pinsiders. Please let it continue without constant negative remarks.
Ottawa, ON
Quoted from hawksfan:Because you buy games that aren't complete at release.
Oh no, not this knob again. I thought you found better things to do then troll capguntrooper in his own thread. You know things like make more pinside user accounts so you can troll in the same thread under different names like Hawksfan then Hlazzer, what's the next pinside account going to be? I don't know but I bet it starts with an "H", super creative, I think I'll start calling you triple H. So triple H I thought you found better things to do with your time but I guess not because trolling people on pinside is a super fun Monday night at home 
you win douche of the week.
Quoted from The_Dude_Abides:Okay please let this post serve as warning to anyone trying to troll this thread or get it off topic. If you continue past this point permanent thread ejects will be the result.
This thread has some very useful information on it for Pinsiders. Please let it continue without constant negative remarks.
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Quoted from hawksfan:Because you buy games that aren't complete at release.
So its NOT ok for us to buy games that don't have complete code? Why don't you stop STALKING Capguntrooper, seriously dude you only troll this thread to bring everyone down, you and your little dog need to get a life.
Hey all please drop the attacks it's not needed. I wanted to get the thread back on track please let's stop.
fantastic thread capguntrooper - don't let the trolls get you down! Thanks for the awesome info & love your passion.
Thanks everyone! Here is a teaser clip of one of my prototypes. When your Kiss pin is in stand by demo mode the lights in play field have a rolling strobe as you can see on this pro model back glass. When the game is in play each KISS letter that is triggered from play will light up in coordination with the back glass MOD. Will post another vid shortly.
Quoted from capguntrooper:Thanks everyone! Here is a teaser clip of one of my prototypes. When your Kiss pin is in stand by demo mode the lights in play field have a rolling strobe as you can see on this pro model back glass. When the game is in play each KISS letter that is triggered from play will light up in coordination with the back glass MOD. Will post another vid shortly.
» YouTube video
Can you show us behind the back glass looks aussom
Quoted from Delta9:Can you show us behind the back glass looks aussom
Cant give away all my secrets yet. my new harness is almost complete. This unit will be plug and play with no splicing needed.
Quoted from capguntrooper:Cant give away all my secrets yet. my new harness is almost complete. This unit will be plug and play with no splicing needed.
Cant wait
New lighted KISS back glass target MOD, check out the thread.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/kiss-pinball-lighted-target-back-glass-mod#post-2699443
Paris
Quoted from capguntrooper:New lighted KISS back glass target MOD, check out the thread.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/kiss-pinball-lighted-target-back-glass-mod#post-2699443
» YouTube video
How is this different than the one that MEZELmods has been posting about for the past 2 months?
Quoted from DugFreez:How is this different than the one that MEZELmods has been posting about for the past 2 months?
Well CRAP! Looks like Mezelmods beat me to the punch. I have been working on this prototype since July and have been testing it since beginning of last month. I will check with them to see if they are doing AC/DC and TRON as well so I don't double my efforts. I buy a lot from Mezel and they make really good products so buy with confidence.
There is no reason that you can't pursue the KISS backbox light. As Hooked said, some mods are obvious and multiple people will pursue them. You can PM me and we can discuss what I am doing, based on the videos the hook up is the same but the way the lights are attached is different. If you do ACDC and TRON, think about selling it on our site.
Might i ad pinball life sells a separate divider for the kizz on the playfeild it sucks 
how do i know i have one 
i bought mezel one and its done completely different and its done right
Quoted from Delta9:Might i ad pinball life sells a separate divider for the kizz on the playfeild it sucks how do i know i have one i bought mezel one and its done completely different and its done right
Couldn't agree more. I need to swap mine this weekend to Tim's. PinballLife's separates the lights but they still aren't centered.
Quoted from jasonvhsp:Could you make the letters light up in sequence like the Bally in attract mode? Would make them look even better side by side!
That would require reprograming the Spike board which is beyond me. I can only tap into target lighting, but a cool idea for sure.
A friend of mine is working on a small board to do some kind of "light sequence" like the old bally kiss
he made kiss (just for testing) and a simple print...
it's still in test fase and he is very busy but after the European Pinball Championship in Belgium he will have more time to work on this project...
a small clip: https://www.dropbox.com/s/471g010l6fnsa65/2015-05-29%2014.56.03.mp4?dl=0
Where does the power cable pass through the playfield for your micro display? Any other spots you considered?
Quoted from colonelsnow:Where does the power cable pass through the playfield for your micro display? Any other spots you considered?
I removed the amp sticker and bezeled a small through port and fed wires down so I could have the display flush with the amp. I think it looks really good this way. As you can see if you decide to lose the display just put the sticker back on and it is the same as it was. I also thought about putting it up by diverter, but I have my Detroit rock city sign up there. If you do not want to modify your amp you can simply get a longer L bracket and then feed wires under it if you loosen screws but it will not be flush like I have mine. Put it where ever you think you may like it to go, Pro owners have other options as they do not have a star child play field area, also something to think about.
The last few pin shows I have been too I am seeing damage being done to the new STERN pins with the metal back boxes. Two ways the pins are being damaged are #1 the two rubber plugs at top of back box that are "supposed" to prevent back box from rubbing on rails, slide to the side during transport causing damage (SEE PICS) and #2 when you lift up play field and rest it against back box, the apron is scratched, mostly with LE models and pins with metal aprons (this probably applies too other non stern pins). So when you lift those play fields up get a blanket up on that back box or when you transport your pins get a blanket on there or rubber matt. Hope this helps you all out and saves your pin from getting damaged.
Quoted from capguntrooper:The last few pin shows I have been too I am seeing damage being done to the new STERN pins with the metal back boxes. Two ways the pins are being damaged are #1 the two rubber plugs at top of back box that are "supposed" to prevent back box from rubbing on rails, slide to the side during transport causing damage (SEE PICS) and #2 when you lift up play field and rest it against back box, the apron is scratched, mostly with LE models and pins with metal aprons (this probably applies too other non stern pins). So when you lift those play fields up get a blanket up on that back box or when you transport your pins get a blanket on there or rubber matt. Hope this helps you all out and saves your pin from getting damaged.
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Well that aint gonna happen with mine as it is never leaving my house, LOL!
Noticed the balls in the new sterns did not have a long play life and I was getting tired of replacing 6 balls every 100 plays or so in my KISS so I went to Home Depot or Lowe's and I bought a rubber key guard set. I cut it in half and dabbed a touch of glue to it and slid them on my auto plunger. BALL life just tripled. Cheap and effective.
One down, one to go. I really, really, REALLY, hate exposed wire gates that do not have some sort of cover, they just look bad in a beautiful machine, so I put two multi flashing leds with 3 red leds in an amp that is mounted in front of the wire gate. Looks WAAAAAY better IMO I also have larger speaker boxes that are non lighted if anyone else is interested.
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Quoted from Rob_G:Has anyone had 2 balls get stuck in the demon head vuk? This just happened on my pro today. The vuk cannot handle 2 balls in there.
Rob
Yes happened to me yesterday-machine tried to eject them 3 times then they came out
Quoted from Rob_G:2 balls stuck in the vuk. Does this happen on the premium and le as well?
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Quoted from Gorgar1:Yes happened to me yesterday-machine tried to eject them 3 times then they came out
This has never happened to me on my LE, but this did during Demon multi ball with two add a balls going
Quoted from Gorgar1:Yes happened to me yesterday-machine tried to eject them 3 times then they came out
The vuk on my game was completely jammed and the coil shaft could not move. I had to pull the vuk off from under the playfield to get the balls out. No way it would ever clear itself unfortunately. I sent the screenshot to John Borg on facebook to see if he has any input. He's very good at responding to questions about his games.
Rob
Quoted from Rob_G:The vuk on my game was completely jammed and the coil shaft could not move. I had to pull the vuk off from under the playfield to get the balls out. No way it would ever clear itself unfortunately. I sent the screenshot to John Borg on facebook to see if he has any input. He's very good at responding to questions about his games.
Rob
A magnet on a stick wouldn't get the balls out?
Quoted from Rob_G:The vuk on my game was completely jammed and the coil shaft could not move. I had to pull the vuk off from under the playfield to get the balls out. No way it would ever clear itself unfortunately. I sent the screenshot to John Borg on facebook to see if he has any input. He's very good at responding to questions about his games.
Rob
Wow I was lucky they got ejected gee my PF is getting chewed up from the ball drop
Quoted from Gorgar1:gee my PF is getting chewed up from the ball drop
Where is it getting 'chewed up'? If you mean dimples, that is going to happen to every game.
Rob
Quoted from Rob_G:Where is it getting 'chewed up'? If you mean dimples, that is going to happen to every game.
Rob
Yeah dimples but heaps of them I know it's expected from such a ball drop and my other sterns have them but it's probably worse than I expected. Won't stop me playing it though lol
Quoted from Rob_G:Where is it getting 'chewed up'? If you mean dimples, that is going to happen to every game.
Rob
Quoted from Gorgar1:Yeah dimples but heaps of them I know it's expected from such a ball drop and my other sterns have them but it's probably worse than I expected. Won't stop me playing it though lol
I have heard if you lower the power setting, so the balls are not launched out so hard it helps. Then again having a play field protector makes the game look like day one out of the box
Quoted from Gorgar1:Yeah dimples but heaps of them I know it's expected from such a ball drop and my other sterns have them but it's probably worse than I expected. Won't stop me playing it though lol
KISS seems to have a thicker clearcoat which I think shows the problem more. The ball lands on Catman's face on my game... I shall rename him 'craterface'...
Rob
Quoted from Rob_G:KISS seems to have a thicker clearcoat which I think shows the problem more. The ball lands on Catman's face on my game... I shall rename him 'crateface'...
Rob
Mine funnerly enough doesn't always land in the same spot lol my catman has dimples but the worse spot is in the black area just left of the lock insert along the yellow lightning bolt so it's much more noticeable as capguntrooper said I'll try lowering the eject power
Quoted from Rob_G:2 balls stuck in the vuk. Does this happen on the premium and le as well?
Rob
I have had this 2 times on my pro.
also 1 time this weelkend at the EPC
I use a magnet-pen to get one ball out so the VUK can fire the other one...
Quoted from pascal-pinball:I have had this 2 times on my pro.
also 1 time this weelkend at the EPC
I use a magnet-pen to get one ball out so the VUK can fire the other one...
I will send this to stern as well, I have sent so many bug notes that they probably recognize my email and just roll their eyes. 
Quoted from capguntrooper:I will send this to stern as well, I have sent so many bug notes that they probably recognize my email and just roll their eyes.
You and me both
Quoted from Sparky:This is where a few other customers have installed:
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Thanks. I think I will give that spot a try.
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