I'd buy it if I had a Bally KISS, but not for $1300. If it had all four original members I could see maybe $900, but with only three I'd say more like $700.

The German glass makes it more rare in America, I think it is worth the asking price, very tough to get the original line up with proof of them signing it. Looks legit.

Agree! The fact he has 3 signatures and it's the German version I would go $700 unless it's a NOS glass. If NOS then maybe 900 (tops). Also, the way he has it stored would concern me! Is there any type of cushion between the wood and glass??? If not then you can expect the the wood has scratched the back side and, more than likely, left rub marks/scratches on the front side. I would ask the seller to take pictures of both the front and back of the glass outside of the crate he built for it!

Lastly, there are still a lot of KISS fans out there and they still buy a lot of stuff, if this was a good deal the glass would be sold already!

Plus Paul Stanley is still alive and makes plenty of appearances. If you really wanted that 4th signature, you could make it happen.

It would not be worth $250 to me, but to each, his own.

As a Kiss fan, I know how difficult it is to get autographs like this- Consider carrying this big piece of glass around (like a concert, for example), then trying to get them to pose for a picture while it's being signed. The thing with this glass is not only the signatures, but the ability to authenticate these signatures beyond someone just telling you they had it signed. There's no doubting the authenticity when you see pics of the guys signing it. The only thing that could have made this better is if they were in makeup.

Problem with asking on this forum is most aren't true Kiss fans, and this is a Kiss fan question, not a pinball collector question.

As a Kiss fan and pinball guy, I think this glass is over the top, but that's just me. I have a signed 1979 backglass, non-german, with Ace and Peter's signature in mint condition. The reason I don't have Gene and Paul? I haven't wanted to lug it to a concert and around a venue and risk breaking it. Imagine what it took for this guy to get this done, and the price seems like it's reasonable and perhaps you could score it for an offer.

Just my $.02.

Gentle ribbing ahead!

So which Kiss member is your avatar? LOL!
Up the irons!
Rock on sir.

Even though you have a picture showing them signing it, how do you know it's not someone else's back glass or pictures? Fakes can be made. Without an expert checking the signatures I wouldn't buy it.

"I have a buddy of mine who is an expert at checking signatures. Mind if I give him a call?"

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As someone who has several of Paul's, Gene's, Peter's & Ace's signatures done in person, I can tell you IMHO those signatures on the glass are not fakes.

Yeah I could see how those 5 teeny tiny little pinholes on an otherwise perfect 40-year old backglass would sour you on this item.

I don't think that's all that bad, quite frankly. Not perfect, but better than I've seen in a lot of 40 year old backglasses. I've looked at a lot of 80's backglasses in my day, and I wouldn't be quick to turn this one away based on what I've seen out there.

Agree with the others, for a glass of this age it's a nice glass!! Obviously it was used but again it's in very nice shape!

One thing to keep in mind is shipping and temperature changes. It's winter in the northern hemisphere. If that goes from a warm shipping office into a freezing cold trailer on it's way to you all the paint might come right off the glass.

Sorry for the mild hijack, I have a back glass print that is signed by all four guys back-in-the-day. One member wrote a personalized message. It's in excellent condition and I've always been curious as to an approximate value. Any reckons?

That backglass really looks in excellent shape for it's age. If you're a huge KISS fan than maybe it's worth the asking price to you and just ignore what anyone else says. But if you ask me in general what it's worth, I'm sticking with my $700 number.

There are lots of signed back glasses with all/some signatures so they are not super rare. Condition is important so $700-$1000 is reasonable.

Haha, here's a pic of me on Halloween.. Crazy, right?

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It should be said that nowadays you would be paying for PS to sign that back glass or anything for that matter. Might be a deal breaker considering having to purchase the item and the autograph...

I recently tuned back into the KISS thing while rebuilding my record collection. One thing for sure is that KISS fans can be rabid, especially regarding collectables. If it's already done a round on EBAY I can all but guarantee that gobs of KISS fans that regularly pay crazy prices for the right piece have already looked at this and passed on it so it's a matter of whether or not it's worth it to you. If it was some super desirable piece at even an unreasonable price it would be gone. They're a fickle bunch, 1300 for a signed backglass no, 300 for an unopened Kissopoly game or 150 for a spiral notebook from the 80's? ...All day, every day.

I have some old school KISS collectibles including the Bally machine. It was at one time a "grail" collectible for diehards. Don't imagine that has changed much.Even raggedy ones are priced ridiculously. Autos don't mean much to me unless I was there. Would be a pain to lug around to get signed. That glass actually looks pretty good. I would prefer a normal version though. Hard to say what the "real" value is.

Good point....I forgot the one in question is the German version so it is more rare than the US version but I don't think it adds a lot of value. So $700-$1000 is really a steal if it is in excellent condition. Figure it would cost $250 or more to get each signature plus the value of the back glass. For the ultimate collector that wanted both versions is who this woul appeal to. The average person prefers the US version.

A signed US version should be worth $700-$1000 easily if it's in excellent condition. It really depends how bad someone wants it. There are many signed back glasses so it is not rare which hurts the value a little.

It's tough to price signed items. It really comes down to subject matter, condition, and how rare an item is. And there are thousands of items signed by Kiss so the signatures themselves are not rare at all...

The Bally table is why I even joined here! I was looking to buy one!

I've heard something to the tune of $500.00 I would never pay for an autograph!

20 years ago you didn't pay for autographs. But autographs have become a business. Hardly anyone signs anything for free anymore.

Back in the day bands had release parties at local record stores and would meet the fans to promote a new album...hardly happens anymore.

The IPB repops have not been around that long....looking at the wear and typical light bulb burn I suspect it's an original...I am not sure if there is any dead give away to tell if it is an IPB. The IPB playfield has a couple differences so easy to tell on those.

I would ask in the restoration area. Sealing with triple thick would be my guess but someone must know for sure.

http://www.classicplayfields.com/store.html
You can buy a shipping box designed for backglasses from CPR. They might have info on their site about avoiding delamination too.

At IPDB the photos of the plastic playfield have color matched inserts. http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1386&picno=11990 I don't know if that's a coincidence or not.