Clearly, I’m having a big Saturday night
It’s Cold Gin time again

Update:
VUK Power 28 is not good, when two balls in the vuk i get trouble. So levelled up to 35 and now the ball comes to the left flipper instead the right flipper. OK. I accept it
If i get trouble again like joekiss? Do not know, but had it not before lowelling, so i think no.
Disc-problem is also solved. Works in test-menu, works in play. Settings is the key. Made off and on. Pushed alle connectors under the table. Now it is OK.

Fine machine

Theres one on Ebay right now for $900

Joe, I agree w/you on the Demon head. It's a poorly designed mech. A bunch of simple concepts that *should* work together in theory, but if one's out of whack, the whole thing wrecks the experience. Lived through it for 2+ years and it's a PITA to troubleshoot, b/c the breakdown could be anywhere, including the optos.

It is a fun game, the code updates have been great. probably the prettiest I've had in a while too.

Unfortunately I'm short on space so I'm moving mine out. If anyone is interested in a HUO mint KISS premium that DOESN'T have ANY gene head issues lol, hit me up! I'm in the Boston MA area.

KISS music is pretty terrible anyway, listen to a song or two and then most people move on. Your pin matches the band!

I think its a very fun pin and I get almost no SDTM shots. I'm moving mine out so if you want to buy one that wont keep you up at night, I'll sell you mine!

Why do people who use a pin for 4+ years list it as MINT? Used doesnt equal MINT.

Sure can be.

“Mint condition is an expression used to denote the quality of a pre-owned good as displaying virtually no imperfections”

Had no idea MINT could be applied to used items. KISS premiums dont come up for sale very often. Best of luck with your sale!

Of course. A 50-year old baseball card can still be Mint condition. In pinball terms I would assume New In Box would be better than Mint.

For me, I always went by the philosophy that if it was out of it's original packaging it wasnt Mint. In terms of pinball who knows? Does a 5 year old game with dimples classify Mint?

Is it mint if you do a complete play field swap with no plays? What if you add a protector on day one and a ball never touched the play field? Personally I like pepper mint paddies

Came home last to my girlfriend telling me "there's something wrong with Gene's head", which immediately worried me given all the issues with that mech. Fortunately after a brief troubleshoot, I found it was just that a wire broke at the solder on the VUK coil. Soldered that baby, and demon is back! Very happy that it was a quick fix, especially considering I've never had any trouble with Gene (no STDM or other issues).

I just got an almost NIB HUO Kiss pro!
I wonder, what is the best scoop protector, is this the cliffy one which I have heard makes the scoop tighter and more challenging to hit:

https://www.pinball.co.uk/clone/game-specific-parts/kiss/cliffy-protector-for-stern-kiss/

or this hole protector, which looks similar to the one my TNA has?

https://www.pinball.co.uk/spares-accessories/kiss-by-stern-pinball-hole-protector/

from a gameplay point of view, the 2nd one (i love what Cliff do of course, but talking about scoop i prefer Mantis without a doubt)

no keypost here, and seems nothing in the pics, than let me ask :

does KISS not being concerned by spike node probs and than STERN updates !?

https://sternpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Stern-SB189.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3D6Nx_vIPNf2JJ4fdHlAPZPKyW6Zg6-91N8X1nOZ2LNdmSjmCgccIGWdk

https://sternpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Stern-SB190revB.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3arDrQvA1KbHequ0lpGby17T1VWJ23jSREdi6diV1Qr8kRZRHXaY0vmqw

tanx

Hi Pinside community,

First post, but I thought I would bump this question back up. I just picked up a Kiss Premium. Looks new, code updated, plays awesome.

Like this original post I too am seeing this behavior, backstage is lit plus any other lights, new track, extra ball, etc.. when I hit the shot...30-50% of the time it just pops back out, without awarding the Backstage Pass or anything else lit up.

I had a cliffy, removed it(which makes the shot easier but the behavior is the same, with or w/o the cliffy.

Any insights?

Misaligned metal edges or bracket below maybe?
Is the switch registering in switch test?

I had this exact issue shortly after buying new. I replaced the scoop micro switch and haven't had an issue since.

Regarding LE with up to date code: Is there a setting to disable auto-launch during the "choose a new song" moment? It times out and will choose a song for you, then auto-launch if you don't choose one in time. I'd love to take a breather and swig a beer after completing a song mode.

Has anyone installed the Pinball Life Spike Knocker Interface kit ? I have a Kiss LE, code 1.41.

I have it installed but I cant get it to work, I have the knocker volume off in standard adjustments, but I can't find standard adjustment #54

Q24 option knocker installed.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Thanks for the suggestions Edenecho and Thundergod, much appreciated.

I just installed mine, and it seems like I had trouble finding it to. But then it I finally found it. I think I just cycled through a couple times.

I found it also, with the code updates, numbers and locations moved. Sounds so much better than the screech.
Thanks

Might want to consult a dictionary. MINT => Pristine Condition. MANY games that are 4+ years are MINT...in fact, better than NIB (considering all the well documented NIB issues discussed on Pinside).

If you want your KISS to really rock, you need the PinWoofer amps & speaker kit.

I've fiddled with audio mods over the years and this is "hands down" the best audio kit ever produced for pinball machines! Not a huge "modder", but this kit is a must have for Rock & Roll pins. Dan (the creator) provides great support and is a fine human

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-amplified-subwoofer-kits-by-pinwoofer/page/7#post-5303538

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Sorry but a dimpled playfield IMO is not MINT. You have your opinion and I'll have mine. That discussion was weeks ago. We've all moved on.

Sorry, but the "new" games look worse after 100 plays than my LOTR after over 10k plays (in terms of "dimpling"). Wish this weren't the case, but the wood, materials, and overall craftsmanship isn't what it use to be. If you are new to the hobby, I don't fault you for being uninformed.

Couldn't agree with you more on this point. I so wish these newer games were built like they were 20+ years ago.

Isnt the think with dimples that they even out, so basically u would need to compare a new game after 10k plays with an old game after 10k plays?

No. The “think” is BS. Opinion is based on owning many games over 15 years...

Pinball protector day one. So no dimples. What's the verdict on that front?

Follow-up, I did also find this Service Bulletin from Stern... this looks on point.

https://sternpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/sb186.pdf

Not a believer in adding a "pinball protector"...

Anybody have this issue ? Balls not ejecting from Demon head. Looked underneath playfield I did not see any broken connections, Did the vertical coil test in the head, #23 And nothing.

Running code 1.41

Anything to look for or check ?

Thanks in advance

Believer or not, it would prevent dimples I guess... ?

I recently had this issue. The ball would lock, but the VUK wasn't kicking it up and out. I tested the switch and it was recognizing the ball, but no VUK engagement. After inspecting the VUK mech underneath the playfield, I found a loose wire on the VUK coil. Soldered that back and it worked like new.

Sorry guys, i have to go. Had a swap with an AC/DC Pro Vault, i could not resist.

Booo

No please. Maybe someday i say: I´ll be back. Who knows?

KISS is a super fun game, but AC/DC is more my music and i regret that i sold my AC/DC years ago.
Now i have the better Pro with LED, Swinging Bell etc than the older days.
So, i had to do the swap.
A 2015 to a 2018 game cannot be not done.

Good swap. And I’m a huge Kiss fan.

THank you for posting this. Just picked up a NIB KISS LE and my scoop wasnt awarding the shot. Adjusted the switch and all good!

Not expecting a quick answer but here goes!

LG Super Jackpot on LE/Premium.

It's a countdown 50 million.

Possible to get Colossal which is 5 x 50 million.

So, that is a possible 250 million SJ.

Is that maximum possible?

I tested with glass off and using center ramp didn't increase it.

I know that on KA it is possible to get SJ's over a billion but haven't managed that yet.

COMING SOON! To a PREM/LE near you if you are unprotected. Get the Star child flame protector before your plastics SNAP!

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Had first prolonged session on mine for a while yesterday. It’s such a fun, hectic, combo-tastic pin.

Anyone tried to put a clear/white rubber on the spinning disc on LE/Premium?

Reason - more spin and no black dirt everywhere!

THIS MAY HELP

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/kiss-demon-vuk-spinning-disc-protection-mod

Nice!

Will look for some KISS decals that also put a bit of spin on the ball.