Kingpin
Capcom, 1996I'm pretty sure this Kingpin originally came from the same guy that had the King Kong. The original price to buy the Kong outright was $12,000, until wind of it got around.
So in short, the Kingpin was bought for a kong like price, flipped and now it's trying to flip again. It'd be better in a circus.
Quoted from TigerLaw:I thought that sale didn't pan out and it went back up and sold in the mid teens or something?
I'm not a fan of Kingpin, though I've never played it. Not a good looking game in my view. How is the code?
That's exactly what happened. I bought it and sent it to Chris Hutchins for restoration.
I'd love to get a chance to play one. I love the gangster theme. I think most of them are out in California or west coast though, never see them around on the east coast much, especially southeast.
I played the one at the Pinball Museum in DC. Very cool layout, sounds and game play. Great artwork by Stan also.
Mike
Quoted from hAbO:I played the one at the Pinball Museum in DC. Very cool layout, sounds and game play. Great artwork by Stan also.
Mike
Quoted from shacklersrevenge:I'm pretty sure this Kingpin originally came from the same guy that had the King Kong. The original price to buy the Kong outright was $12,000, until wind of it got around.
So in short, the Kingpin was bought for a kong like price, flipped and now it's trying to flip again. It'd be better in a circus.
This is the game I purchased from the pinball museum for a friend, It was sold to another person on the east coast this past year, and he sold it to its current owner who has it up on eBay. Confirmed!
If one could buy this , play for six months, then sell for same money or better...I mean damn that could work right? The ONLY risk is Rick at PPS. Or could someone else do it as well? I mean 80 sounds high, I thought they were 40k tops. But say you could buy and sell for 40k, the only risk, barring Ricksplosion, is catastrophic loss. Right?
They list these purposely at outrageously high prices so that exactly what is happening here will draw more attention to it / more views per hr.
Quoted from LTG:Again, no topper.
LTG : )™
Do you have any pictures of this King Pin topper?.... Curious what it looks like.
Steve
Quoted from vex:looks like earning an honest living is a thing of the past. why work when you can just flip things for clown-like prices to the next sucker?
But would the next buyer REALLY be a sucker??
I mean, let's say Rick never remakes these and there remain only 8 in existence. Over time with inflation and the extremely rare collectibility factor, who is to say a nice Kingpin wouldn't be worth double / tripple / etc down the road?
If someone were to purchase for 80k, enjoy it for 5-10 years and then sell it for 100k+ are they still a sucker?
Quoted from HemiOrange09:Do you have any pictures of this King Pin topper?.... Curious what it looks like.
Steve
I'm sorry I don't. Saw it years ago on Robert Winter's Kingpin forum.
I had the machine gun look from the translite, and had a row of lights and numbers that flashed from left to right across it.
LTG : )™
Quoted from fattrain:But would the next buyer REALLY be a sucker??
I mean, let's say Rick never remakes these and there remain only 8 in existence. Over time with inflation and the extremely rare collectibility factor, who is to say a nice Kingpin wouldn't be worth double / tripple / etc down the road?
If someone were to purchase for 80k, enjoy it for 5-10 years and then sell it for 100k+ are they still a sucker?
5-10 years? So far the last three owners had it less then a year and a half each...and it's gone up each time!
Quoted from lllvjr:5-10 years? So far the last three owners had it less then a year and a half each...and it's gone up each time!
We don't know if it went up this time at all; would be good to know what the eventually sale's price is.
Wonder what BBB and Kingpin would be worth - had Capcom ran 2,000 of each and remained in business.
Quoted from fattrain:But would the next buyer REALLY be a sucker??
I mean, let's say Rick never remakes these and there remain only 8 in existence. Over time with inflation and the extremely rare collectibility factor, who is to say a nice Kingpin wouldn't be worth double / tripple / etc down the road?
If someone were to purchase for 80k, enjoy it for 5-10 years and then sell it for 100k+ are they still a sucker?
80k is already over inflated. Buying any pin for more than NIB has its risks at this point.
Quoted from ejg10532626:Wonder what BBB and Kingpin would be worth - had Capcom ran 2,000 of each and remained in business.
BBB might very well still get a good price but Kingpin I can't see costing more than a Black Rose or Whirlwind. It's very gray.
Kingpin is a better playing game then bbb... Not enough people have played it to know but those who have seem to agree
Quoted from kidchrisso:54 watchers... just a matter of time before someone pulls the trigger
All watching to see how much it goes for when someone else buys it.
Quoted from fattrain:But would the next buyer REALLY be a sucker??
I mean, let's say Rick never remakes these and there remain only 8 in existence. Over time with inflation and the extremely rare collectibility factor, who is to say a nice Kingpin wouldn't be worth double / tripple / etc down the road?
If someone were to purchase for 80k, enjoy it for 5-10 years and then sell it for 100k+ are they still a sucker?
he would still be a sucker. inflation doesn't effect collectables. You would be hard pressed to move this at 80k without taking a 40k loss. Before BBB was remade, offers for one of the original 11 ranged from $15k-35k. Even at 35k, you will be sitting for awhile. I wouldn't want to be stuck into it for more than 20k at this point. If the release does happen, you still can recoup since it is one of the originals.
One of the photos shows 2 Trons in the background... can only wonder whats under the blankets, probably more Kingpins
Quoted from fattrain:If someone were to purchase for 80k, enjoy it for 5-10 years and then sell it for 100k+ are they still a sucker?
I'd say they were lucky if they risked $80K on a pinball machine and made $20K.
Enjoying a pinball machine for 5 years while tying up $80,000 and risking tens of thousands of dollars in a resale is still kind of a sucker move I think.
There was a time when people thought MM was absolutely worth $15K because the game was just that good. The game didn't get any "less good" since the remake was announced but somehow it ain't worth it anymore.
You can pretend the game is more fun, but in the end, we're just nerds who believe a rare pinball machine is worth $80K due to the status.
The market that covets this rare machine is too small (and getting older) to expect that the value of Kingpin will appreciate forever.
Fellas, let's just face it. Anybody who will spend 80k on a comodotity such as a pinball machine isn't concerned about recouping their money. It's purely just for bragging rights!
Quoted from CaptainNeo:he would still be a sucker. inflation doesn't effect collectables. You would be hard pressed to move this at 80k without taking a 40k loss. Before BBB was remade, offers for one of the original 11 ranged from $15k-35k. Even at 35k, you will be sitting for awhile. I wouldn't want to be stuck into it for more than 20k at this point. If the release does happen, you still can recoup since it is one of the originals.
I don't think you have a firm grasp on what inflation means.
Think buying power. Yesterday's dollar is worth less today.
So, if the original BBB were $15-35k, say 20 years ago, today that same amount would be $24k-$56k.
The value of the games didn't "go" up. Inflation did.
Quoted from lllvjr:Kingpin was wrapped up for two weeks in that garage while I was selling games.
If the garage had been in Texas the game would have been stolen.
They like 'em wrapped up to go and left in a garage.
And while I liked Kingpin a lot when I played it years ago, I liked BBB even more.
Quoted from lllvjr:Kingpin is a better playing game then bbb... Not enough people have played it to know but those who have seem to agree
That was my consensus too. Although BBB looks better.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:how do you know you can't? when have you seen 2 of them side by side?
I played two side by side - one with regular 3-ball and the other timed software. CAX about 14 years ago.
No linkup!
Save Tens of thousands and get a more rare Gottlieb
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CRAZY.... I wonder how the seller came up with $80,000? Hmm, I think I'll sell my Kingpin, I want $80 grand? Damn, if this sells, every one of my collection just increased in value. I might print out a copy of this sale to have on file just in case one of my machines "disappears" from my garage while I'm moving. I could try to throw this out as a "comp" for the adjuster
Quoted from chrisjens2:CRAZY.... I wonder how the seller came up with $80,000? Hmm, I think I'll sell my Kingpin, I want $80 grand? Damn, if this sells, every one of my collection just increased in value. I might print out a copy of this sale to have on file just in case one of my machines "disappears" from my garage while I'm moving. I could try to throw this out as a "comp" for the adjuster
Well a few years ago one sold for 40k then one went up for sale for $60k so now this ones at 80k... Do u see a pattern.
Quoted from lllvjr:Well a few years ago one sold for 40k then one went up for sale for $60k so now this ones at 80k... Do u see a pattern.
Not really, thats one sale who asked 20K above what he paid (the $60k sale) That doesn't mean it's worth another $20k. I don't think there is any mean on the bone left on that one.
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