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Key West Magic Square Motor

By keywest

20 days ago

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    #1 20 days ago

    Hello all -

    A few weeks ago we purchased a Key West machine that had been refurbished at some point in the not too distant past. Worked great for a while but then the magic squares/turning corners stopped working. I've watched the Richard Girlitz videos and gone through all of the switches, etc. This appears to be an earlier machine where the motor would run continuously and the squares would rotate when the ABCD buttons are pushed on the front sill (The relays for these buttons are working). Also, my multi-meter shows 117 volts at the motor leads so it is getting the juice it needs...

    It appears I need a new magic squares motor or some type of voodoo to fix the existing one? Might anyone have an idea for a fix or a lead on a Key West magic squares motor?


    #2 19 days ago

    Joe Shope in Utah. Just email him and he will let you know if he has the part.
    It may not be the motor; sometimes the gearing is jammed up.

    #3 19 days ago

    Thanks for the lead - I've fired off an email to Joe. I hear/feel no humming of the motor like I would expect to if the gearing was jammed up - but maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised when I tear it down further.

    #4 16 days ago

    I believe this is a Pic of my 'Magic Squares" assy...... not sure.
    Anyway....... to work on it, I think it has to be in a horizontal position.
    I forgot you didn't get the lock opened yet!
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    OOOPS........ I thought you were Mark working on his "Miss Universe...
    I assume you have the key for the Backglass.

    #5 10 days ago

    When I refurb squares units, it usually takes a couple of tries to get everything lined up exactly so. The amount of pressure put on by the retaining screw and compression spring seem to matter a bunch. Also, I always clean the slip rings and wipers and ensure the wipers are not too tight.

    Like I said, I never get it exactly right on the first try. Keep fooling with it and you'll get it.

    #6 10 days ago

    Right.......... from my experience they work ok, then they don't. Any bit of binding of the gears
    will result in poor rotation.
    I don't know how they kept them working in the field.
    Maybe mike knows the secret...........

    #7 10 days ago

    Once they are rebuilt they seem to be rock solid reliable, but it just takes some fiddling to get them "just so". Sounds like you and I share the same affliction!

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    #8 2 hours ago

    Sorry for the late response - but after rebuilding the unit with the used motor I received from Joe in Utah all is well. The old motor had wooden shims and looked like there had been a struggle to make it play nice with all of the gearing in the unit. I installed the replacement, lightly oiled the clutches, cleaned things up and after some break in time it's working well

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