I'm disgusted! We can't even make a thief uncomfortable back at our events!

yeah he just strolls on through there, like nothing happened. fuck that.

and goes and makes a purchase ... or two !!

To the people who saw Kevin yesterday...I think you're missing these:

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Maybe he's making one pin a year until everyone has a game. would get him around Copyright, but you would have to leave your game to your grandchildrens children.

Retaliate in public and you go to jail for assault. At least wait until he gets out to the parking lot. Parking lot?

Michigan plates? Should have headed directly out to the parking lot and slit all four tires on his shitty van and the tires on his trailer.

What a ridiculous looking sight that crew of misfits.

If thats him with the hat on, he should be easy prey. Looks like I could snap his twiglike arms with two fingers. Rednecks!

Let me say first that he either has no shame and regret or the biggest set of balls in history for showing up.
That said...you know Pinside's stance...please don't encourage or rile up people to act in violent manner. Don't armchair quarterback that people should have beaten him or provoked him to throw a punch.

Be upset, take it to the attorney that's handling things. But don't go down the violence road.

And, yeah, for the record, I'd be upset he was there too...

Never noticed him there. I wish I had. At the very least, I would have tried to get him thrown out.

Kevin doesn't deserve that title.

The W-S auction is typically full of the coolest rednecks you'll ever meet. It's where I grew up too.

I think a simple walk up to him and ask what is going on with the refunds - no violence - just putting him on the spot where he has to look at you and give you an answer would have been a good thing - it's easier to sit here and say what people should have done - and I am sure people who were there are now kicking themselves in the a s s that they didn't at least go ask him what was going on.

to the person who was there and lost his money - wow - you had a chance to at least talk to him - I'm not insulting you here as I'm sure you might have punched him after the answer - and it was more then likely best you didn't approach him - but dam that's what friends are for - they could have talked to him for you

anyway as I said it's easy to sit here and say people should have done this and that - oh well at least people can think about this if they see him at another one

thanks ed

Everyone has an iPhone...put that thing on record and ask him where are the refunds. Ask him where your money is. Talk to the people running the auction that he is using stolen money.

Just don't let him walk around there like nothing happened.

In no way am I condoning violence...just make him uncomfortable/unwelcome.

Why would he be in north carolina if he lives in michighan? Are people sure it was him?

Because we don't want him here either?

Too bad thedarkknight wasn't there to MMA his ass and lick his blood.

They look like Some Kids in the Basement

Someone already made a visual ID, heard him say he "builds pinball machines" and then saw games being loaded into a trailer attached to a van with Michigan plates. Pretty good link there.

Other reasons; We no longer have decent auctions in Michigan.
Perhaps he is hiding somewhere between Michigan and North Carolina so he cannot be served with a Summons or two. If his prior tax returns get opened by a Judge (after a Judgement is declared) His last employer will be served with a Garnishment notice to have 25% of his pay sent to the court/plaintiff's Attorney. Of course Microsoft, Apple, Google or NASA will respond back saying that "he no longer is employed here". Then the search for him begins. At an hourly rate, he will be looked for.

Kinda hard to find someone using only cash and drifting/living with friends several states away. He needs to swap plates on the van next.

Hope the OP took a pic of the van so the plaintiff's attorney will have some proof where the crook was on what day.

No violence , but get in his face!

For the record; I don't have an iPhone. I consider myself "someone".

There is nothing wrong with giving the stink eye, giving off a vibe, coughing the word "dick ehem" when he walks by. Also, when he asks about your machine for sale with the price tag on it that says $600, you look him straight in the eye and say $1000 bucks as you pull the price take off and put it in your pocket.

Make the hobby no fun for him. aint that hard...... Hell vendors can blacklist him too. I have a blacklist. Dishonest, or people I send a replacement and they don't return their items as agreed, people that are disrespectful, or are difficult to work with.

This guy is proven dishonest, no one can afford to deal with him. Blacklist the F'er

Hard to stay in the hobby if no one will buy from you or sell to you

I would have made a sign that said, The guy I am following has stolen my money and followed him everywhere... Maybe He would hit me first.

If their was a PA system someone should of got up and demanded to make a announcement and outed Kevin. This is what I would have done.

The trailer full of goods made it to MI??

So the OP's friend didn't even go up to Kevin and ask about the refund? WTF? Weak and lame. Shit, if someone owed me $20 and I saw him out I'd go up and ask about it.

I spit up my coffee all over my computer. Now my keys are sticky. Don't go there.......

"I would have..."

"If it were me..."

"If I were there..."

Yes, I'm sure.

I can't believe a Pred preorder victim seen Kevin Kulek spending money at an auction and never confronted him???? Talk about takin it laying down

This is the best way to deal with him. Slowly take the hobby he robbed away from him. Not beat him. This would be more painful.

Echoing Robin's comments in the past - some of these posts are scary on suggesting violence.

I knew we were all pussies... ...............Joey

To whoever has that predator machine in their collection - F YOU.

Doesn't he know you don't get between nerds and their games?

You guys dont get it !! Crooks dont call cops !!! Again crooks dont call cops !! I smell pussy

I'm too new to know this guy, or Kevin Gaskins, or Mike Ducker.

But I like the comment about I-phone . . . get a video and post
it. Help us identify the badboys and avoid them.

Yea, in a very loud manner, make a f$&k'n spectacle of the dude. At least let people around him know what they are dealing with. I'd say this would embarrass him but I'm not sure that is possible...

I know that dude! He lives in Michigan and yep, he managed to buy 1 of the 2 Predator prototypes I guess although not directly from Kevin. It's sitting in his own collection now. He was never a pre-order.

Who is it ?

is this person on pinside?

i mean, look at this picture, do i need to say more?

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u just got trolled man!

No. It's absolutely legit and I'm pretty sure several pinheads in Michigan know exactly who he is. As far as I know he's not on here. But I don't want to get the guy in trouble or draw heat to him. It's not his fault he got lucky to get one. And I think that picture was very recent like only a couple weeks ago.

Ditto

Someone please ask him for my $3,000 back. Lord knows I could use it now.

That is one hella funny reply.!

so hes happy to play that fuking pin, with the knowledge that hundreds of people are down the shitter because of it. i couldnt live with it.
can he sleep at night?

THIS!

If I see him, I will do everything in my power to get your money, or something equivalent.

I don't know this dude. But if he burned me for $2k I would have some peeps show up to his house to collect. Nothing crazy. Just show up to his house, his work place and let every know that he is a thief. A little bit of pressure never hurt.

How much did he burn everyone with pre-orders?

Hey guys, like a lot of you, I've been waiting since Jan. for football season to start. Can we move these pitch-fork parties to like, Tuesdays or Wednesdays ? Trying to keep my Sundays Kevin-free.

Nah. Law doesn't work in Michigan. Punch away.

Only law abiders abide by the law. The rest take those folks money. Meh. He got my money. I've moved on.

Glad someone got a predator. Wonder who?

IMO predator is not a fun game to play, I've played it at almost every expo they brought it to to chat about the improvements and what-not. Guess the only thing that could make the game worth good $ is the license, or the story attached with it.

Please move this discussion to the Kevin Kulek Predator thread.

We want all Predator related topics in one thread.

Having everything in one thread will make it easier for all affected parties to keep up with refunds, lawsuits, information, etc.

If you have information about Kevin Kulek or Predator, then put it in this thread.

Keeping everything in the official thread is the best option so that we, the Predator Buyers, can have a chance to get some justice.

For the record, I do not own the prototype nor do I have it in my possession. To the best of my knowledge, no moderator has the prototype.

This thread is now closed.

Marcus