Well as much as I love Elwin's new three flipper designs with great ramp configurations I am looking for something different now. To me Iron Maiden, Jurassic Park, and Avengers all play similar with third flipper set up and no bash toys. I like Avengers but I am holding off because it feels too close to Jurassic Park for me. Looking forward to some new layouts from Elwin.

I would love to see a four flipper game with great ramp shots-thinking some kind of modern truck stop type game? His games are all different but sometimes third flipper games start to feel the same without unique features(Tron keeps it interesting with third flipper set up and Recognizer bank.)

Certain bash toys are epic-think Monger and Sparky. Now to have a game with no third flipper, no cool ramp configurations, and a single bash toy in middle-meh not my cup of tea. Now give me all of it and it fills my cup. I am a huge comic fan and love Avengers but the honeymoon stage went away quickly as it felt way too similar to playing my JP.

No just giving an example of cool bash toys. Think-Tron, X-MEN,etc. the list goes on and on. I get the guys defending Elwin designs(I love them too) just looking to switch things up is all.

Certain games with bash toys work some do not. Party Zone does not do it for me(as an example). Having a third flipper and cool ramp configurations is great but I need more cowbell.

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blah blah blah keep defending Elwin designs as op, just making some suggestions. Don't get your panties in a bind

Really simple-Elwin needs to do something else besides having cool ramp configurations and third flipper-they start to feel the same. I can see I am beating a dead horse with fan boys-so I will exit.

Sorry had to come back to reply to this nonsense. I have lots of respect for your insight and post but to say Monger is lame?

Monger is flippin awesome! Monger being close is the whole idea with trying to have him not throw your ball and have it drain,etc. A true risk reward shot.

Sorry but Monger is a real bash toy and it is epic!

Almost as lame as your Stranger Things LE Demogorgon?