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Keith Elwin Plunges And Walks Off

By Kingjowjow

1 year ago


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    #192 1 year ago

    Man, what a controversy! NOBODY has ever plunged and walked away from basically an insurmountable game before in a tournament!

    Nevabeendonbefore!

    For those that don’t tourney play, this is common, and done frequently…if not just flat out done out of respect to move a tournament along.

    This is literally A NOTHING BURGER, to quote the parlance of our time.

    The real travesty is Levi not letting me get behind a mic after polishing off a bottle of bourbon to give some real, color commentary…(and let’s face it, he’s probably right!)

    #198 1 year ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Never once seen this happen (conceding the deciding game of a high leverage head to head event) in the 8 years I’ve been competing. Pretty common in non elimination games though.

    You’ve never walked up to ball 3, being down, let’s say 600mil to 7mil in a game of TWD, or some other ridiculous amount?

    This past Monday, at a regular league session, I plunged and walked off after walking up to a 100k deficit on ball 3 of gtb hulk, and hitting the lit 2x skill shot, just to not slow the tournament down.

    I’ve been playing long enough to understand the odds, even when playing “perfect”. The BSD game from a couple of years ago at IFPA was not only an anomaly, it was basically “the perfect storm” between Danielle and Johaness (spelling). It was also the FINAL, deciding game. So there is certainly a difference there as well.

    #201 1 year ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    No cause I’m usually up. . Jk maybe I don’t give it my all at some local league or smaller event in that situation.
    But I don’t care what the odds are, if I’m in that situation and it’s come back or lose the world title, I’m gonna do my damndest to come back.
    Totally respect Keith’s decision, I was just shocked by it.
    This was an elimination game. It’s the same as if it was the Final Final game imo.

    I get it, and so do you Chuck.

    But you’ve never walked up to a game, and also thought “today, isn’t my day; I’d rather just move on?”

    I know, I know, we always try to do our best, but especially after an entire weekend of playing, sometimes we just say “I have other things to move on to, it’s only pinball!”

    Defeatist attitude? Hardly. Sometimes you just know when to call it quits.

    Again, as a tourney player, this is the LEAST scandalous situation in a pinball minute.

    -1
    #204 1 year ago
    Quoted from Beyndtstng:

    New theory: There was a betting service advertising on the twitch stream. Maybe Keith had money on Escher and wanted to protect his bet haha.
    .

    I’m going to bet “No Pass” on that. And I’m not a gambler in the usual sense…

    I’m sure KME wanted to make finals.

    I’m sure he wanted to win.

    He can’t win EVERY tournament.

    And then there’s Ray, Eric, Escher, Cayle, and a cadre of others.

    At the end of the day, people are only humans, and that’s what makes watching tournament streams for us mere mortal players exciting.

    Pete Rose bet on his own team to win after all…not against. This is not that, not even close, haha.

    If anything, I hope this literal non scandal issue gets picked up by ESPN as a major story, and then just like that, pinball is shown on Ocho/ESPN2 like “Baaagggggggssss/cornhole” is.

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