Shoot, now they have to burn all those nice pinball machines.

It's one thing to knock the establishment, which sounds like a killer place with great food and an awesome lineup of pins. No one here should be knocking the place itself.

But if you seriously think you're on some moral high ground here, talking down to other Pinsiders who don't happen to care for some superficial group of whore sisters who parade their asses around on 'Insta' for likes and other meaningless publicity for a living, you're barking up the wrong tree.

That show is part of the problem with our 'social media / celebrity obsessed' society, and their TV show does no one any good. "No, Yoko2una, it entertains people". F*** that. For every person you think it "entertains", it probably brainwashes five other young kids into valuing the wrong things in life... that you can get by just fine in life if you look a certain way, bang a dude and release the tape, and/or have no redeeming qualities in general.

Just because they stood there and giggled as they tried to knock a silver ball around on a TV show for 5 minutes, doesn't make that family any less irrelevant in my book.

Next time, I'll tell you how I really feel

Wrong.

As a father, we don't watch any garbage to begin with. Not everything we watch is 100% educational, but I damn well sure am not going to put on anything that has a net-negative effect on him. I challenge you to name one redeeming quality about that show, or the message it sends to kids.

I don't ever want a nanny-state, but it's SUCH a lazy response to just say "well just don't watch it". You should know (well maybe you don't because you're in Canada and are subject to different programming) how much bad TV there is right now and can probably draw a very easy conclusion as to how better off the youth of America would be if these talent-less attention whores weren't celebrated on TV, magazines, "news"...etc. Take that and multiply it by every other garbage show out there. But the show in question at the moment is the poster child for shit that morphs kids' minds the wrong way.

Not everyone will be a good parent. In a perfect world, networks should have SOME sort of standards. The E! Network has exactly zero point zero. But to say "just don't watch it" puts your head in the sand while shit gets worse all around you.

Way to assume how others live their lives in an online forum. When you have no idea who I am but try to dictate what you think are activities absent from my child's life, you really put the "dic(k)" in "dictate". I at least now know to avoid you from further engagement on topics where there are major societal issues and your solution is to ignore them and pray they go away.

Having never watched an episode myself either, that doesn't make problems go away. You haven't watched either? Great, that did ab-so-lute-ly nothing and it's still the #1 show on E! and they never needed you or I to begin with. They pray on stupid mindless women and kids to watch their show, and enough watch where it's working... but that doesn't make it "right" or beneficial to us on the whole. Look at Vid's stats above. An overwhelming majority of the country doesn't care for the "leader of the whore pack", and I can say with a lot of confidence that it's not because they have watched her show and disapprove. Go to Yahoo, turn on the news, listen to some crappy pop music FM channel, she's everywhere... yet for doing NOTHING of substance.

If you care to defend the position that ignoring the problem is the way to go, continue to be naive. Some parents out there suck at their responsibilities, and it's those ones who are producing offspring who will burden the future generations with lack of skills while wanting the world handed to them. Hard work is a virtue, and these girls get celebrated for anything but. I work my ass off to be able to lead a decent lifestyle and occasionally afford a multi-thousand dollar HUO 300lb box of wood that slaps a ball around, but when I get it set up, I also see a sign of my hard work paid off. To teach kids that you can also just photo your ass or side-boob and put it on social media for even larger sums of disposable income is f***ing horrible, and it's not just the viewers at fault as many don't know better. The "providers" of this culture-ruining content should also have a moral responsibility not to teach BS lessons on life... or just have some common decency in general.

It wasn't the pinball that earned them that title...

No worries, Marcus. I'll never apologize for sticking up for myself as a father and my parenting, but of course my apologies if I crossed some other 'Pinside-lines' in there. The establishment, the cuisine, nor the collection of pins were ever in question... just a controversial family who are the focal point in the subject of this thread... and we all know people will have opinions on topics like that.

Back to playing Space Cadet. Ball 1 awaits deployment.

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