Just received this email from Mr. Pinball. Anyone else receive the same?

All Genuine, just trying to help the customers

Sent to anyone who is a customer of ours on our Online Store

regards

#8 10 years ago

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Shoot_Again

Pinside member

Vancouver, WA

12y 83,400 8,453 2

That must be it then I think I purchased something from there years and years ago.
Just odd to receive mail of this nature to this add.

#9 10 years ago

ESP

policano

East Side Pinball

Saint Paul, MN

11y 72,900 1,777 19 23

Seems strange.

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#10 10 years ago

NOO

Noodlebox

Inactive member

Looks like a scam. Where is the proof of registration of a legal fund or trust fund set up for a registered organisation with a specific objective?

#11 10 years ago

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Ballypinball

Pinside member

Ha Noodlebox, this is a Fund for legal fees Against your Company the only scam is you?

Have you received a call from mensa yet, they were not impressed with your Actions un becomming of a member?

Mr Jamie Smith.

Why don't you let people know who you really are??

Ps Several thousand dollars raised so far.

Great Effort Guys

#12 10 years ago

PBP

PopBumperPete

Pinside+ Frequent

12y 103K 4,039 8

edit

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#13 10 years ago

NOO

Noodlebox

Inactive member

Maybe this needs to be repeated, it hasn't been answered yet:

Quoted from Noodlebox:Looks like a scam. Where is the proof of registration of a legal fund or trust fund set up for a registered organisation with a specific objective?

If it looks like a scam, smells like a scam...

#14 10 years ago

GWC

thepinballworks

Pinside+ Frequent

12y 117K 2,191

Just looked and it went to the spam folder. I think that is where it will stay.

#15 10 years ago

ROB

Hellfire

Inactive member

Two Rivers, WI

11y 55,950 1,387 20

LOL this is why i would never pay up front for any preorder on a pin,
cash upon delivery or pickup is the only way to go not pay for a machine a months or a year before its even released or manufactured.

#16 10 years ago

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Ballypinball

Pinside member

Quoted from Noodlebox:
Maybe this needs to be repeated, it hasn't been answered yet:

If it looks like a scam, smells like a scam...

What do you call what you did to all these people? A not Scam

#17 10 years ago

DOC

drsfmd

Pinside member

10y 76,550 3,156 108

EDIT: No dog in this fight and I decided to remove this post.

#18 10 years ago

SAZ

Baiter

Pinside member

Westminster, CO

12y 69,400 3,910 13 15

Quoted from drsfmd:
That's a completely inappropriate use of your mailing list.

Unless it is a public service. The most appropriate approach is to set up an official class action lawsuit, then fish for people affected by this because where else do you find people who lost pre-order money?

#19 10 years ago

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Orce

Inactive member

Unknown

11y 11,400 17

I would like to thank all the pinballers who have donated so far, the response has been great to our cause which has had a fantastic reception by all. The fund is overseen by three of the nominated members and we our happy to answer any questions.

Thank you

Oscar

#20 10 years ago

RJB

rockotaco1

Inactive member

Davison, MI

10y 28,900 738 4 8

Some weird shit going on in this thread....

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#21 10 years ago

NOO

Noodlebox

Inactive member

Quoted from Ballypinball:
What do you call what you did to all these people? A not Scam

You have your timelines mixed. New Bumper resold two machines at the original customer's instructions, before Jack nixed the franchise. I did not sell any of the original 76 LEs. I work for a company that bought a business from another company that sold 76 LE machines.

I can accurately answer what happened during my time only. I cannot answer for people whose actions predate my employment or for the directors of a business now in liquidation.

#22 10 years ago

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Ballypinball

Pinside member

And where did that money go, or do we go to the emails again

I am so sick of my inbox full of Robs emails.

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#23 10 years ago

NOO

Noodlebox

Inactive member

Quoted from Ballypinball:
And where did that money go, or do we go to the emails again
I am so sick of my inbox full of Robs emails.

Well you should have asked Jack if he had any messes or unethical conduct to cover up before you took the franchise. Jack saw you coming.

#24 10 years ago

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Ballypinball

Pinside member

Franchise we dont have a franchise maybe you see too many Jims mowing Franchises, you were a Distributor not a Franchisee.

At least i pay for my games in full without collecting customers money.

Jack saw you going

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#25 10 years ago

NOO

Noodlebox

Inactive member

Quoted from Baiter:
Unless it is a public service. The most appropriate approach is to set up an official class action lawsuit, then fish for people affected by this because where else do you find people who lost pre-order money?

No that's not right. As Gillard's business does not exclusively operate the legal fund, the spam laws in Australia would prevent him from spamming his customer list on something unrelated to his business. Anyone who received Gillard's mail but didn't invite it, you can go to:

www.spam.aca.gov.au

Click on Reporting, Complaints & Enquiries.
www.acma.gov.au/webwr/consumer_info/spam/consumer_information/spam_consumerguide.pdf‎

The only other explanation as to why it would not be spam is if Gillard's business stood to benefit from the income raised.

Which is it Wayne, spam or not?

#26 10 years ago

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Ballypinball

Pinside member

neither idiot

Call it a community service

Also i don't operate the fund at all, no access

Must be upsetting to be so smart but live in the poor part of Cheltenham, maybe just renting.

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#27 10 years ago

NOO

Noodlebox

Inactive member

http://dictionary.reference.com

Quoted from Ballypinball:
Franchise we dont have a franchise maybe you see too many Jims mowing Franchises, you were a Distributor not a Franchisee.
At least i pay for my games in full without collecting customers money.
Jack saw you going

franchise, n.
2. the right or license granted by a company to an individual or group to market its products or services in a specific territory.
4. the territory over which such a license extends.

Franchise it was.

You're a brave man Wayne, or something else. $6200 x 250 is a lot of money to pay an overseas business that cannot deliver machines. Are you insured?

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#28 10 years ago

NOO

Noodlebox

Inactive member

Quoted from Ballypinball:
neither idiot
Call it a community service
Also i don't operate the fund at all, no access
Must be upsetting to be so smart but live in the poor part of Cheltenham, maybe just renting.

Spam it is then.

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#29 10 years ago

NOO

Noodlebox

Inactive member

A community service it is not.

#30 10 years ago

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Ballypinball

Pinside member

Quoted from Noodlebox:
http://dictionary.reference.com
franchise, n.
2. the right or license granted by a company to an individual or group to market its products or services in a specific territory.
4. the territory over which such a license extends.
Franchise it was.
You're a brave man Wayne, or something else. $6200 x 250 is a lot of money to pay an overseas business that cannot deliver machines. Are you insured?

No license so distributor

#31 10 years ago

RVM

robin

Pinside founder

Alkmaar

21y 192K 7,921 94

BallyPinball, Noodlebox and all others involved in the numerous threads about Bumper. I'm tired of all the fighting going on between you, of all the speculation and allegations being thrown around. If you can't have a *civil* discussion on the subject then I kindly ask you all to leave the Pinside and take this stuff elsewhere (or use PM).

#32 10 years ago

SP1

Playerone

Pinside member

Sydney

11y 35,650 179

Quoted from Noodlebox:
Maybe this needs to be repeated, it hasn't been answered yet:

If it looks like a scam, smells like a scam...

The only thing that smells is the bullshit coming from Bumper Amusements. I'm owed $8750. That's a lot of going without things over the past couple of years. Not including interest.

#33 10 years ago

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Ballypinball

Pinside member

Sorry Robin he is here as he's banned on Aussie arcade

#34 10 years ago

OPP

loren3233

5 Alarm Pinball

Vacaville, CA

14y 83,300 1,334

Thank you Robin

#35 10 years ago

RVM

robin

Pinside founder

Alkmaar

21y 192K 7,921 94

I don't care who's right or wrong here. Don't know what everyone's angle is on this topic. What I do know is that you are all a guest on this forum and I'm asking you to stop the bullshit, negativity, name calling. You guys have been going on for weeks about this and I've seen enough of it. I'm pretty sure all of this speculation is not in the interest of any of the Australian WOZ buyers so take the rumors and allegations elsewhere please.

#36 10 years ago

TIM

ralphwiggum

YouBentMyWookie

Sullivan, WI

12y 108K 5,446 6

Quoted from robin:
I don't care who's right or wrong here. Don't know what everyone's angle is on this topic. What I do know is that you are all a guest on this forum and I'm asking you to stop the bullshit, negativity, name calling. You guys have been going on for weeks about this and I've seen enough of it. I'm pretty sure all of this speculation is not in the interest of any of the Australian WOZ buyers so take the rumors and allegations elsewhere please.

I know you don't typically delete posts, but these public bickering sessions aren't going to be good for you personally if somehow the law gets involved.... Not that you would be held responsible for any of the content, but I have seen stranger things.

I don't really think I have seen Wayne contribute anything positive to this site, not really surprised though. And I used to make fun of my wife for watching soap operas....

#37 10 years ago

CRG

Craig

Pinside+ Frequent

Durham, NC

11y 70,900 4,543 11

Thanks, Robin. Enough is enough.

#38 10 years ago

BRI

GoldenBear

Pinside member

Santa Ana, CA

11y 52,650 305 9 11

I agree with the public bickering thing, but I would like to state that I think the "Spam", maybe not scam, approach from Mr. Pinball Aus was tasteless and disrespectful from business sense. I can and will choose where I purchase pinball supplies in the future based on this disregard.

#39 10 years ago

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Ballypinball

Pinside member

Quoted from GoldenBear:
I agree with the public bickering thing, but I would like to state that I think the "Spam", maybe not scam, approach from Mr. Pinball Aus was tasteless and disrespectful from business sense. I can and will choose where I purchase pinball supplies in the future based on this disregard.

Please PM me and i will remove you from our mail server

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#40 10 years ago

NOO

Noodlebox

Inactive member

Quoted from Ballypinball:
Please PM me and i will remove you from our mail server

#41 10 years ago

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sergioluna80s

Blocked

10y 73

Fernando Bigi is a partner too of this The Australian Distributor ! http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/beware-fernando-bigi-gaucho-pinball-argentina-bigger-crook-is-back

#42 10 years ago

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sergioluna80s

Blocked

10y 73

and is here with name JETSKY ! http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fernando-bigi-jetsky-bigger-crook-of-argentina-is-here-is-with-us

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#43 10 years ago

WLT

wtatumjr

Pinside member

Corolla, NC

10y 87,050 2,058 8 9

$500,000 from 79 customers? Isn't that about $40,000 per game? Of course maybe everyone bought 4 games?

#44 10 years ago

APE

PinballShed

Inactive member

Newcastle

10y 22,900 59

$500,000 divided by 79 comes to $6329 per person, where did you get the $40,000 per person from.

#45 10 years ago

WLT

wtatumjr

Pinside member

Corolla, NC

10y 87,050 2,058 8 9

I need to use a calculator more and my head less

#46 10 years ago

SFX

Sunfox

Pinside member

13y 37,650 1,240 6

I just heard a whole bunch of Aussies groan "...Americans..."

#47 10 years ago

KJM

kmoore88

Pinside+ Frequent

Grand Rapids, MN

13y 63,050 1,326 3 11

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#48 10 years ago

JGI

John_I

Space Coast Pinball

19y 179K 9,076

Please change the subject of this thread. Wayne never has been or will be "Mr Pinball".

#49 10 years ago

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Ballypinball

Pinside member