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Just home from PAPA


By Skypilot

7 years ago



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    #1 7 years ago

    No crowds played all day. Going to have to update my wish list. Awesome day.

    #2 7 years ago

    I need to go there. Been to PHOF, Expo & CP (prolly 50+ times) so PAPA is on the bucket list fo sho.

    Got any vid or pics?

    #3 7 years ago

    Isn't it all weekend?

    #4 7 years ago

    Pics or video please. What did u see?

    #5 7 years ago

    Its all weekend, but only if you are playing in tournaments. If you went to play different machines, like myself, its come and go as you please. Just got back myself. Went for 2 days to try everything out. Lots of pins!

    #6 7 years ago

    Sounds great!

    #7 7 years ago

    You can still enter if you went tomorrow and Sunday right?

    #8 7 years ago

    Sorry no pics .busy playing everything under the sun. Acdc ,MM,LOTR,AFM,TOM ,TAF,IM,PoTC,CC,TS, and on and on and on. Note: MB only one and in tournament.

    #9 7 years ago

    Any pins that surprised you?

    #10 7 years ago

    Was a Bally / Williams man for the most part till I played ACDC. That gents ghostbusters was there ,kinda cool! Also realized the a pins although great are over rated and over priced. There are great pins at realistic prices out there .

    #11 7 years ago

    Liked WW, FH,x-men was cool IM nice .didnt care for tron ,avatar .

    #12 7 years ago

    So many games played hard to account . Banzai run was different . Got to play cactus canyon it was OK.

    #13 7 years ago

    Thursday was actually more busy tournament wise then any other PAPA I can remember. So far today they had a total of 421 players who are competing.

    #14 7 years ago

    Screw it im heading out in the AM and checking it out!

    #15 7 years ago
    Quoted from Joshmx19:

    Screw it im heading out in the AM and checking it out!

    Saturday is last day to qualify! http://papa.org/papa15/schedule.php

    #16 7 years ago

    Well I ended up going for Saturday and Sunday and I had a blast! I decided to get some tokens and play a few games before I made the decision to compete and I was playing like CRAP so maybe next year on the competing! Still I burned through about $60 in tokens in 2 days and had a lot of fun! I would say everyone needs to do this if you live near it. I am going to practice up and if im not working ill go to Pinburgh but next summer again for sure!

    #17 7 years ago
    Quoted from Joshmx19:

    Well I ended up going for Saturday and Sunday and I had a blast! I decided to get some tokens and play a few games before I made the decision to compete and I was playing like CRAP so maybe next year on the competing! Still I burned through about $60 in tokens in 2 days and had a lot of fun! I would say everyone needs to do this if you live near it. I am going to practice up and if im not working ill go to Pinburgh but next summer again for sure!

    I thought they were all on free for papa

    #18 7 years ago

    50 cents for 3 balls on all the games that I played. X-Men was $1.00

    #19 7 years ago

    AC/DC was .75, and I payed that and played a lot, I think my total on tokens spent was 120.00

    I understand I would save more money with Pinburgh, so to save money I'll be going to both next year. Extra hotel, extra trip to Pittsburgh, more pinball? surely that will save money in the long run.

    #20 7 years ago

    Man, I thought someone said they were free.

    Well with a buck a game, I'm curious where their replays are set at. Are they small, medium or large.....IM 3m, 7.2m, 12m? You know? I'm guessing PAPA's got them up there a bit for everyone-getting-to-play's sake.

    Or are they all over the board?

    #21 7 years ago

    I believe this is a charity event,can someone clarify?

    #22 7 years ago

    I think they were set at the defaults thurs on replays, then as people played them they advanced, sort of like how my NF originally had a 900 mil replay by default, but now its 2.3 bil for a replay, its in the wms menu's for them to advance, I don't know about sterns or DE.

    #23 7 years ago

    If you want to play pinball, nothing beats the PAPA facility. Best selection of games in good working order with basically no wait to play 99%.

    Its not a show with events and presenters and no buying and selling of games. Just pure pinball playtime. If you stink like me, bring some friends to stage your own competition.

    No entrance fee to play games but most are .25 for EMs,.50 for most SS and DMDs and a few newer Sterns at .75 or 1.00. Those offer 3 credits for $2.00.

    Mark your calendars for the twice a year opportunity.

    #24 7 years ago
    Quoted from Blakesell:

    I think they were set at the defaults thurs on replays, then as people played them they advanced, sort of like how my NF originally had a 900 mil replay by default, but now its 2.3 bil for a replay, its in the wms menu's for them to advance, I don't know about sterns or DE.

    Right, I know a replay rises in free play, but from what I've seen in a bar your replay goes up until you finally lose without a replay and it gets set back to default.

    I'm just curious. I'd go if it wasn't a 15 hour drive and happily pay for all.

    #25 7 years ago

    Who owns PAPA? Is it a private collection or ???

    #26 7 years ago

    http://papa.org/index.php

    Lots of info and history right on there site. It used to be held at Broadway arcade in NY city.

    #27 7 years ago

    Here is a video walkthrough of PAPA 15:

    I miss it already.

    #28 7 years ago

    My memory is fuzzy, but I recall a staff member mentioning at some point that they had sold close to 20,000 rolls of tokens that weekend. That's some serious pinball playing!
    Another thing that's cool is they have some A-listers on free play for the kiddos.

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    #29 7 years ago

    Seems like kind of a waste to only have these available to the public 2 weekends a year.

    #30 7 years ago

    Wow! Good tour. Pinny paradise! One day hopefully... thanks PinB

    #31 7 years ago

    nice video. I'm upset you took it without me in it tho. Actually looks like you took this in the morning. I didn't get up till noon each day.

    #32 7 years ago
    Quoted from Pinballrus:

    Seems like kind of a waste to only have these available to the public 2 weekends a year.

    PAPA is Kevin Martin's private collection, not an arcade like Pinball Hall of Fame. How many days a year is your private collection open to the public?

    #33 7 years ago
    Quoted from jonnyo:

    PAPA is Kevin Martin's private collection, not an arcade like Pinball Hall of Fame. How many days a year is your private collection open to the public?

    No need to get snarky, that is why I was asking who owned it. It doesn't come across as a private collection, seeing as PAPA markets itself as an organization. And if I did have a collection like that, it would be open to the public a lot!

    #34 7 years ago
    Quoted from jonnyo:

    PAPA is Kevin Martin's private collection, not an arcade like Pinball Hall of Fame. How many days a year is your private collection open to the public?

    I'm thankful that Kevin Martin even opens this building once a year to the general public, let alone two times a year. I don't compete. I just go to buy tokens & experience machines that I would otherwise never have the chance to. It gives me something to look forward to planning my work vacations around, and it makes me appreciate it all that much more when the time comes.

    #35 7 years ago

    plus, the human society is greatful of Kevins contributions. Have to generate lots of revenue for them as well.

    #36 7 years ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    plus, the human society is greatful of Kevins contributions. Have to generate lots of revenue for them as well.

    Hey, I'm part of that society.
    Haven't seen a dime yet.

    #37 7 years ago

    Right now Kevin can't have PAPA open all the time. He wants to do that, but he can't, due to the town of Carnegie's policies. They require a $50/game/year license fee. It's not affordable when you have 400+ games there. So instead he's open about 7 days a year, and the town pro-rates the license fees. This is the only way Kevin can afford to be open as much as he is.

    #38 7 years ago
    Quoted from cfh:

    Right now Kevin can't have PAPA open all the time. He wants to do that, but he can't, due to the town of Carnegie's policies. They require a $50/game/year license fee. It's not affordable when you have 400+ games there. So instead he's open about 7 days a year, and the town pro-rates the license fees. This is the only way Kevin can afford to be open as much as he is.

    That makes sense, thanks for the answer. Doesn't seem like a bad idea for the town to cover the fees for more usage, as it would be a great tourist attraction. I do hope to visit one day, and do think it is awesome that such a collection has been amassed / maintained. Especially after the flood, what a depressing sight that must have been!

    #39 7 years ago

    I really got to plan on making this in the future. Used to do lots of work in Pittsburgh before I came to my ways to recognize this wonderful hobby.

    #40 7 years ago

    PAPA is a simply amazing place. Forget all the pinball shows, all the museums, all other venues. It's simply the best place for pinball anywhere in the WORLD. Over 400 games under one roof. The only downside is they are weak on EMs. Their EM selection title list is barely OK, but you can tell the guys doing the work there aren't EM type dudes (their EMs don't play especially well.) The Pinball Hall of Fame or PPE is better for EMs, if that's your focus. But for solidstate games, PAPA simply can't be beat. The only downside to the solidstate games is there's sometimes 2 or 3 or even 4 examples of any particular title. That's good for the large crowds that want to play Attack from Mars, but it means there's less space for say more good EM titles.

    But the facility itself is top notch. Wide aisles, nice bathrooms, lots of place to sit down. And the play areas are mostly carpet, so it's nice on your feet. Also the building is well lit and properly air conditioned. It's very comfortable. (For example, I have a similar facility with about 1/4 the games of PAPA, but in 1/8 the space! This means my aisles are more narrow, with less places to sit, and I can't afford to air condition like PAPA. It really makes me want to be a millionaire!)

    Here's a video I shoot of PAPA 2012:

    #41 7 years ago

    What is the story behind the owner of the PAPA collection? Is he super-rich and this is what he chooses to spend his money on, or does the PAPA events cover a lot of the costs to operate and maintain the place like PHOF?

    #42 7 years ago

    If you want to know the story of PAPA, check out pinballninja.com. The under lying story is told there.

    #43 7 years ago

    LOL, he made his money doing web hosting? You can't do that now with companies like GoDaddy who have taken over the market.

    #44 7 years ago

    Anyone know what table was used for the division A final match?

    Dan

    #45 7 years ago
    Quoted from MrWizzo:

    Anyone know what table was used for the division A final match?
    Dan

    http://twitter.com/papapinball

    #46 7 years ago

    PAPA was amazing I only wish that the volume of the games was higher. I'm sure thats impossible since it would be a cascading wall of noise as more and more people started playing but what a wonderful way to go deaf!

    #48 7 years ago

    Allegheny County actually has a license fee of $250 per game, not $50. So it would be even more expensive than you think

    #49 7 years ago

    Keith Elwin selected, High Speed, then Tron, then Corvette for the final match.

    #50 7 years ago
    Quoted from ninjadoug:

    Allegheny County actually has a license fee of $250 per game, not $50. So it would be even more expensive than you think

    Ok, let's do the math on this...

    If PAPA has 400 games and a license fee of $250/yr that's $100,000/year on the games to operate them. But if that fee is pro-rated based on being open 7 days a year, that would come down to about $5 per machine, or a $2000 fee to operate the games. About $286 per day in fees to have the doors open.

    I wonder if it's possible for us enthusiasts to lobby for some change to the law allowing "vintage coin-op" places to operate with more practical license fees? Does anybody know if any municipality has changed the law to make older machine license fees more reasonable?

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