And it will blow you away
(Topic ID: 32108)
Norwood, OH
Quoted from dug:If true, that would be a huge step in the right direction. Looking forward to playing one
+1, Where's the holding-my-breath emoticon?
Quoted from Frax:I just took this thread with a salt quarry.
LOL.
That picture of Gomez standing with the machine strikes me, he looks pretty proud. Take that for what it's worth.
Gomez has also said the light shows are amazing on Avengers. I really like the LED boards on AC/DC so this could be great.
Finished in who's eyes lonnies? yup it takes a quarter and a ball flops over in the lane good enough for me.
I hope you are correct. That would mean the team is satisfied with all rules and sound and speech. I would assume bug fixes would still be done as needed. I hope Lonnie stepped up and hid some stuff not on the rule card, too.
Quoted from Benepinballs:Man U guys are hard on Lonnie.
Based on the past, I don't know what anyone else would expect.
Quoted from jar155:Some of the best pinball machines received lots of updates.
Maybe that is the key - the more updates, the better the game (in the long run).
Im sure we will have a thread bitc** about it anyway!
I have a bunch of complaints lined up and I have no plans to own this machine. 
Quoted from Spudgunman:Im sure we will have a thread bitc** about it anyway!
I have a bunch of complaints lined up and I have no plans to own this machine.
Fine then...I'll prepare some blind defenses even though I probably won't have one either!
Quoted from RWH:That would be a first...
I know it was a really, really long time ago (less than 3 years), but both BBH and IM shipped with pretty much completed code.
I had a feeling they would get back on track about the same time OZ shipped. Not hard to figure out what's going on here.
Quoted from jar155:Maybe all the modes will be in there, but code tweaks come for EVERY pinball machine. Look how many ROM revisions the B/W DMD games had. Some of the best pinball machines received lots of updates.
BSD only had one revision. That game turned out okay.
Actually this is a big bummer to me. Here is why. Lonnie is known not to be the best guy for rules. If they consider the code complete then the SW team will move into another project. Our chance as a community to ask for specific changes and features ends when the code is completed. From our experience with TFLE, it's like pulling teeth to get Lonnie to make changes once the code is complete. During the development cycle, we can suggest changes and rule changes. While they may not all get implemented, some will especially if the dev team is already working on the code and likes the suggestion. In this case, we are going to be stuck with whatever rules they've decided. This could include being forced to beat a very difficult hulk mb to progress the game with nothing else to do. I guess we will see.
You can already see that you will have to shoot each avenger 4 times to start their mode. I just hope the objective of said mode is not shooting that same avenger again multiple times. I hope the comment of being blown away is true.
Quoted from Benepinballs:And it will blow you away
We had a governor here in Michigan who said that a few years ago...and...ah....
Quoted from markmon:Actually this is a big bummer to me. Here is why. Lonnie is known not to be the best guy for rules. If they consider the code complete then the SW team will move into another project. Our chance as a community to ask for specific changes and features ends when the code is completed. From our experience with TFLE, it's like pulling teeth to get Lonnie to make changes once the code is complete. During the development cycle, we can suggest changes and rule changes. While they may not all get implemented, some will especially if the dev team is already working on the code and likes the suggestion. In this case, we are going to be stuck with whatever rules they've decided. This could include being forced to beat a very difficult hulk mb to progress the game with nothing else to do. I guess we will see.
One of the biggest things that pissed me off when i was on the phone with lonnie about tf. He told me TF WAS HIS AND GEORGES GAME. They view it as there personal game. Almost like we like it so screw off. Now i tried to convey to him while thats great and all you dont have 500 tf le's in your house now do you.......He failed to see my point that his customers where more important than his ego. Now i can get the whole its mine thing shit i call cars i have restored mine when they are not but i dont lay claim to the title so to speak.
Quoted from markmon:Actually this is a big bummer to me. Here is why. Lonnie is known not to be the best guy for rules. If they consider the code complete then the SW team will move into another project. Our chance as a community to ask for specific changes and features ends when the code is completed. From our experience with TFLE, it's like pulling teeth to get Lonnie to make changes once the code is complete. During the development cycle, we can suggest changes and rule changes. While they may not all get implemented, some will especially if the dev team is already working on the code and likes the suggestion. In this case, we are going to be stuck with whatever rules they've decided. This could include being forced to beat a very difficult hulk mb to progress the game with nothing else to do. I guess we will see.
This whole incomplete/half assed initial code thing is a pain in the ass...
BUT, it has given US the opprotunity to help get the kind of rules and content we are all lokking for or would like...
thats the bonus of having it part done, or getting the rough version...
They read everything we say, and take alot if not most of it into consideration...
Even if AV's ships with "completed code"..or 90% code, we will still be giving opinions and suggestions or pointing out faults that may have been overlooked...
updates will come, and they will be welcomed..but the thought of a great soild rulset and finished up " or mostly finished up code job, at delivery, is very, very nice...
Quoted from Benepinballs:And it will blow you away
blow me away? sounds pretty fruity if you ask me...
Quoted from DCfoodfreak:I like getting blown
you should buy a Whirlwind!
Quoted from ButtonMash:blow me away? sounds pretty fruity if you ask me...
Fruity? Like Cirqus Voltaire?
Quoted from ButtonMash:blow me away? sounds pretty fruity if you ask me...
Depends on which Avenger is doing the blowing.
If it ships with "finished" code, we better like it, right? Glad they have done so much real world testing of the code-lots of machines on test, suggestions from players taken and implemented, and the last endeavor by these guys was so well received . Sounds like "we are done with this one, moving on to other projects, hope you like what we did cuz it's staying that way"
Quoted from Gerry:I'd take the chick in the Helicarrier, forgot here name ....
The brunette....
Shes my flavor....
That's Cobie Smulders (aka Agent Maria Hill). Very pretty girl!
Quoted from rommy:If it ships with "finished" code, we better like it, right? Glad they have done so much real world testing of the code-lots of machines on test, suggestions from players taken and implemented, and the last endeavor by these guys was so well received . Sounds like "we are done with this one, moving on to other projects, hope you like what we did cuz it's staying that way"
I fear this may be the case. Hopefully they are open to suggestions.
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