Go ahead, the Pinside crowd wants to know who it is. I consider MI close enough for me to deal with, so it will be helpful going into a deal if we know the seller might jerk us around. Plus, I'm sure there's another side to the story.

Sorry, man, that sucks!

This is probably a good reminder that despite all the complaining about prices (yes I'm guilty too), dealing with a known Pinsider gives you a hell of a lot more confidence in the purchase/sale. Not perfect, no, and we are all responsible ultimately for saying "yes" to a deal, but it's one of the reasons I don't even mess with Facebook, CL, etc. Too many time wasters

Greed has now become a "thing" to approve of, support, and emulate......

Think you are missing the point of his post...

I 100% agree. Ive had at least 2 deals go straight in the shitter off craigslist in the past where 1 price is stated then you get there and the same story comes up where another buyers on his way that is unless you wanna come up on your offering price. F that I totally agree with@Rdoyle1978 about staying off facebook and CL it qill just piss you off to deal with these deuschers.

Your title stated the seller was off Pinside, so I assumed he had an account here and was a member. My bad.

Facebook and CL sellers can really suck. I've been sold out from under as well. It's annoying, but there's always another machine. At least you didn't make a long drive to be told that the machine was sold to someone else...or something like that.

Yes, but he already sold it out from under you.

Eh. Sometimes you get a good deal. The rest of the time, it never was a good deal.

You have to shrug it off and wait for the next one, even when the item listed was something you really want. More attempts equals more successes.

I have to say I've always had pretty good luck on Craigslist not sure why maybe it's just the part of the country I'm in or what but if I told someone that I'm coming to get the game they'll hold it for me till I get there with the cash

That's when your offer is for less!! Cash in hand!!

I do not know what happens when you use PayPal as a seller but cards to charge a fee someone has to pay.

In the hobby? I would not assume he's "in the hobby" around places like FB and CL. Sounds like the only hobby he likes is flipping for max $ even going back on own word. More likely retail flipper rather than in the hobby.

I sold an item on Ebay and 1 month later the guy wanted his money back.

He said was out of the country and could not inspect the item sooner than that. Said item did not match description even though there were 12 close up pictures of all sides of item that showed all defects

So of course Ebay had me refund his $$. I since no longer sell on Ebay.

I think that's a little harsh. I think most people in this hobby, even if they are not pinsiders, aren't always out to get you. I think I would have just waited to see if the other guy came thru and then went from there. Or maybe have your friend go buy it and then pay him back. (that's if he has the $$)

There is always other games and, unfortunately not everyone uses pinside to sell their games so sometimes you have to use other sites to find what you want.

Just the way it goes sometimes, keep looking you'll find the game you want. Might even get it at a better price

He probably didn't really want PayPal. Cash usually wins.

I've bought and sold on Facebook and CL. I'm balls deep in this hobby. I've also seen plenty of other Pinside folks list on Facebook. You can't make a blanket statement that if you post on FB and CL, that you're not "in the hobby." Hell, there are plenty of Pinside deals that have gone south. Pinside isnt any much safer than FB or CL. There are plenty of shady people here too.

You as the buyer would be paying the fee using friends & family. Paypal ain't doing this for nothing..

Sorry I took it the other way my apologies.

Yes, plenty..

Then please update your title by editing your fist post. I don't like seeing Pinside misrepresented.

One dude had pretty bad BO.

Hey is it possible the seller confused you with another person that did offer $100 more?? He might have gotten more responses to the ad than just you?

I am not one of those people. Don't even have a Facebook page and never gonna get one.

Sorry you had a bad experience, though. Get all excited about getting an new game.... and then nothing. That sucks

Friends and Family recently started charging me a small fee for transactions. Paypal is starting to lose its luster for me.
I haven't been burnt yet and have been very trusting of others. However there is a certain level of anxiety I feel when
purchasing a pin these days out of state.

Fortunately I have pretty much everything I've wanted now and moving on to other aspects of hobby. For me its Cash on Glass.

Lets face it guys, there are a lot of nut balls out there that buy and sell games. CL is loaded with them. Some of these deals are doomed from the start. Just weird people. Some of the games I went to buy that were on DCL I wouldn't even go in the house!

What game were you looking at if you don't mind me asking. Maybe someone here has one.

I've had an individual promise to sell me an item. Then never answer the phone to set up a pickup date. Same guy sold a pin he promised to me. Then the following week the same pin was up for sale for 400 more. WTF

Was it for sale by the same guy you were dealing with?

Yes - He is an interesting character. Not sure if he is a pinsider. I've been told he's an odd duck by others

Exactly!! Tied to a credit card there is a fee

haha...how about mentioning Facebook instead? Quite a few flaky things on there. It would make it easier finding this thread.

PayPal and your agent is picking it up..... I would have ran so so fast......maybe he read vi’s guide...

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-not-get-ripped-off-in-pinball-vids-guide

You've done a lot better than I have then. I might have bought or sold 20 games over the past 5 years. Most of the time it goes well and I've enjoyed dealing with most people on this site and in the hobby. That said: 1) I've agreed to buy a game and then have the seller cancel because they decided to pursue another deal, wanted to keep the game, didn't want to wait, etc. 2) Agreed to sell a game then have the buyer changer their mind, not have the money, couldn't make the trip, decided it is worth less than they originally agreed, etc. It sucks when either happens, but I've found it isn't that uncommon also occurs with almost anything else that is bought and sold. The more complex the deal (e.g. PayPal payment, friend picking up, further distance, delayed pickup, other buyers interested) the more likely the deal falls apart. Would the world be a better place if everyone stuck by every agreement they made with another over transfer of a game? Probably, but as long as I didn't get ripped off I don't get too bent out of shape by it. I guess I don't understand the point of these threads especially when the other party and even the game involved aren't named.

Exactly!!

I have yet to buy a game off CL at the advertised price. If the listed price is anywhere near a deal, even when I am the very first caller and offer to come immediately with cash and a truck, some pissed off person comes along and tells the seller that they are selling the game "way too cheap" and offers anywhere from a hundred to $500 more than the asking price. Inevitably, if I want the game, I have to pay the higher price or walk away. Why can't someone be happy that someone else got a decent deal without trying to queer it...but I digress!

Also, the only time a sale is binding in my mind is when the "buyer" has actually paid me, at least a deposit. I have had more people than not promise they will show up that night, the next morning, next month, etc, and then you never hear from them again. Or they show up, piss and moan about some imaginary flaws that don't really exist, and then offer hundreds less than the price they committed to pay over the phone. Cash is king, and bs walks. Until I am paid, my game remains for sale, unless the buyer is personally known to me as a trustworthy person whose word can be trusted.