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Just came across this... (news about John Trudeau)

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6 years ago


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    #80 6 years ago

    Judge Dredd is a $1400 game folks.

    This is a sad and disturbing day for our hobby. Will be interesting to see how Stern handles this for his existing (GB) and unreleased games (Iron Maiden) in the future. Can they really promote and sell his games? Not the easiest situation for a guy like Zach to walk into.

    #353 6 years ago

    From those with experience in the court system and law enforcement, how long do these cases typically take to get resolved and a verdict reached. Is it usually weeks, months, or years?

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    #684 6 years ago
    Quoted from investingdad:

    Folks are acting like playing one of these pins will in some way make the player complicit with or exposed to the influence of this dude.
    Not letting a kid play one of them? I'm pretty sure there's no subliminal brainwashing going on here.
    I get the revulsion to the individual, but this sort of reaction to an existing pin? I don't get it.

    I don't really think that is the reasoning behind it. I think for many that collecting pinball machines is more than just playing them. Collectors also enjoy the history and stories regarding particular games as well as the people that had a part in making them. Some even arrange their line-ups so that games from a certain designer (or even artist) are grouped together.-You could have a Lawlor section where you group Earthshaker, Whirlwind, Funhouse, etc. But now with this latest revelation that history is tainted for any game JT was associated with, and the game may conjure up unpleasant thoughts when looking at the game.

    On a totally unrelated note this made me think of a true story about a friend not too far from me that bought a house about 8 years back. It was just he and his wife at the time but now they have 3 young kids. When they bought the house it was disclosed that the former owner died via suicide which is why the house was available. He later came to find that the previous owner moonlighted as a professional clown. The owner hung himself in his now eldest daughter's bedroom. The house is in a desirable neighborhoods and was a bit of a fixer-upper. When my friend was renovating one of the bathrooms he discovered that the mirror was a 2 way mirror and the wall was previously patched up from the adjoining room which would allow someone outside the room to look in. If that were me living in the house I would be creeped out and would have moved after finding this out. Every time I've been over or even driven by I can't help but think about that creepy clown (who may or may not have been a pervert).-I don't know anything else about him. But my friend and his family love the house and have no intentions of moving. -and they aren't doing anything wrong by staying there.

    #699 6 years ago
    Quoted from investingdad:

    The United States is guilty of having permitted slavery in the past. You choose to live in the United States knowing its past. So you must be ok with slavery.
    These sorts of guilt by association arguments are tired and weak.

    I don't think it's guilt by association but rather that some people don't want to keep physical objects around that remind them of something unpleasant. It could be something as simple as getting dumped by a girlfriend and choosing to rid your house of any of her possessions because you don't want to be reminded of her. I haven't watched any of the Naked Gun movies in a long time because they probably aren't as funny or enjoyable as they were before the OJ trial....

    #701 6 years ago
    Quoted from gjm7777:

    If you feel sick for owning a game that JT has worked on, or sick at the prospect of a child playing said game - why would you entertain the idea of exchanging money for it?
    If you feel that said machine hurts you or others around you, wouldn't the best course be to destroy the machine to ensure it doesn't get further exposure?
    If you don't feel the machine is hurting anyone, then why would you sell it in the first place?

    Because money is kept at a bank and isn't something physical in your house that you have to look at every day. You can also exchange that money for a game that doesn't remind you of a pervert whenever you look at it. I'm not faulting anyone or saying that there's anything wrong with keeping a game.-there isn't. There also isn't anything wrong with selling one. Do whatever you feel comfortable doing.

    #760 6 years ago
    Quoted from C2CPinball:

    No, you can stop the "maybe it's an elaborate time stamp trick" line of thought. I have had a lot of people reach out who remembered that post... likely on Facebook or here. Someone was posting it in multiple places. This was the wording I remember.

    I remember that post as well and thought it was really odd at the time. Maybe it was Stern Facebook which was quickly deleted off? I'm sick to my stomach seeing it now. This alleges that it is more than just porn and kids under his watch. These poor kids are going to have to live with this their whole life and all of the damaging effects of being abused by this pervert. Yeah I don't think I'll be adding any of his games to my lineup anytime soon. It's only pinball...

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