(Topic ID: 196539)

Just came across this... (news about John Trudeau)

By bangerjay

6 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

  • 1,376 posts
  • 361 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 6 years ago by robin
  • Topic is favorited by 26 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

No games have been linked to this topic.

    Topic Gallery

    View topic image gallery

    image (resized).jpeg
    John-Trudeau-signs-first-Ghostbusters-flyer (resized).jpg
    trudeaurighthanded (resized).jpg
    IMG_2410 (resized).JPG
    IMG_2408 (resized).JPG
    untitled1-300x232 (resized).jpg
    bettyboopangel (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    oj (resized).jpg
    pez SIJ (resized).jpg
    noting (resized).png
    i like to play a little game (resized).jpg
    dude (resized).jpg
    imagesASDNT90Q (resized).jpg
    more witches (resized).jpg
    Trudeau-court (resized).jpg

    You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider fosaisu.
    Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

    This topic is closed.

    #998 6 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    When Stern says that John isn't reporting to Stern, I'm assuming that means that he's avoiding communication and hasn't called into work. I understand dodging any and all communication, but despite all he's (allegedly) done, I would hope that he is only just dodging communication and that he's actually ok. If he's guilty, I'd like him to answer for his actions and pay the legal price, but we don't need any of this getting any more terrible.

    I read it differently, the equivalent of "he's on administrative leave without pay pending resolution of the charges" rather than "we haven't heard from him since his arrest."

    #1096 6 years ago
    Quoted from yancy:

    I'm saying that what people here believe doesn't actually matter. Only facts in a court of law matter. And he is presumed innocent in the only place where 12 or so people's informed opinions matter.

    All true. But also undisputed in this thread.

    You ran into opposition when you said "innocent until proven guilty" in response to people assuming that he actually did whatever it is he's accused of. You're applying a legal standard to a factual judgment being made outside of the legal system. That's a very fair way for you to view things, but there's no social norm in the US compelling everyone to think about criminal cases that way, and most people don't. Just think back to the OJ Simpson trial (the first one, not the one for stealing his own shirts).

    #1186 6 years ago
    Quoted from cosmokramer:

    If he is guilty I hope he is locked away for life, these people cant be rehabilitated or "cured"....if he was found guilty but a judge declared him "rehabilitated by treatment" would you let him babysit your kids/grandkids?

    The rehabilitation thing is interesting. It's counter-intuitive, but sex offenders have much lower recidivism rates than other criminals.

    That said, of course I wouldn't let him babysit my kids. Who would take that kind of risk?

    #1199 6 years ago
    Quoted from kguenther6:

    And the story says he was charged with 2 counts which I believe means 2 pictures were found.

    Incorrect, not how it works.

    #1211 6 years ago
    Quoted from kguenther6:

    How does it work?

    The first "count" might be "possession of child pornography" (meaning it's found in the memory of a computer you possess). That could be one image, or it could be 1,000. Still just a single count.

    The second "count" might be "distribution of child pornography" (meaning you sent images to someone else, either actively through email or passively by "sharing" them through an FTP or torrent program). Again, could be one image, or it could be 1,000.

    Note that these are hypotheticals, I don't want to do any research on this case as it's just depressing. Point is, you cannot draw conclusions about the severity of an alleged crime based on the number of counts charged.

    #1213 6 years ago
    Quoted from kguenther6:

    And if they did only find 2 pics (this is from the assumption that there was only 2 counts charged) it doesn't sound to me like someone that is regularly visiting the child porn sites.

    See my post immediately above yours (as well as a few other times in this thread where it's been explained). Two counts ≠ two images.

    #1221 6 years ago
    Quoted from kguenther6:

    I am not wrong with what it says he was charged with.

    Check the PD Facebook post that DeathHimself posted: "seized computer equipment ... which contained numerous computerized files depicting child pornography."

    Assuming they're using "numerous" in the traditional sense, that means they found lots of files, not just two.

    You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider fosaisu.
    Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

    This topic is closed.

    Reply

    Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.

    Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!

    Donate to Pinside

    Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!


    This page was printed from https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/just-came-across-this?tu=fosaisu and we tried optimising it for printing. Some page elements may have been deliberately hidden.

    Scan the QR code on the left to jump to the URL this document was printed from.