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Just came across this... (news about John Trudeau)

By bangerjay

6 years ago


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    #271 6 years ago

    Well, let me start off by saying I have read all 253 post on this topic. I wondered how this community would respond to the news. So far I have been very disappointed. If this story is true John is sick. He has committed a crime and sinned. Lets let the criminal justice system take care of the crime and God deal with the sin. So what is our part? I have seen the pinball community many times come to the aid and support of someone who is ill or in financial trouble. I for one will be praying for John and his family. The employees at Stern will also need our support. I may buy a Iron Madden if the playfield design and program is something I like. I'm not in love with IM music. Let me be clear. I hate child porn, because it harms the child and all involved. I hate adult porn because it harms the women and men involved. It also, in my opinion, harms the viewer.

    We have all heard the saying "hate the sin, love the sinner". That's what I intend to do.

    Let's all remember, we all sin daily.

    I hope this post does not come of as "holier than thou". I certainly don't mean it that way.

    #288 6 years ago

    Spence, sorry it came across that way. For the record I do go to church, but normal only 1 time a week. Sometimes two, when they have a interesting speaker or a adult education program. Back on topic, my post was my way of encouraging others to look at this situation a different way. Some of the pinsiders seem to be putting down the sinner, in this case men who view child pornography, which elevates other who don't. I know I am just as bad. I sin daily. I don't mean to make this post a dissertation on sin but it fits the topic. My second goal was to show concern for all involved. Especially John. Yesterday most of us would have loved to sit down and have a meal with John. Talk pinball and how his games have made our lives a little better. He's a human being who is probably in a great deal of pain. Yes he may have brought this on himself but if the allegations are true, I hope he can turn his life around. I don't want to do anything that will make that process harder. Once again I apologize.

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    #1169 6 years ago

    Hi guys and gals. I'm sorry I was unable to express my thoughts on several posts earlier. The posts include #1050,1064,1069, and 1077. These posts where in response to my only 2 posts in this thread. (271 and 288) As was the case earlier when I wrote my 2 posts I have read every one of the 1169 postings. It has been very interesting to say the least.

    First let me say, this is a very unusual thread. By its very nature it brings up emotions and personal beliefs. In posts 1064, and 1069 I was told that religion has nothing to do with this topic and to stop pushing my religion on this group. Let me respond by saying that to the best of my memory I have never made statements like this before on pinside. It is only the special nature of this topic that motivated me to do so. The majority of the thought expressed by the 336 pinsiders participating in this thread have come from their own personal beliefs. It would be impossible for me to express myself without basing my thoughts on my faith. Everyone has a faith (religion). It may be in themself but its still a faith (religion). If the faith is in their own judgement that's how they come to the conclusion they do. If the faith (religion) is in a higher power that how they come to a conclusion.

    It was stated that "I was pushing my religion". If it came across that way I am sorry. My intent was to encourage compassion for all involved. And yes that includes John, but it also include the 336 pinsiders reading these threads.

    Its hard to talk about a topic that is based in a sin without talking in terms of faith. Sin by definition is rebellion again's God.

    OK a couple of last items. I want to thank Swampfire for his support. This took courage based on so many of the responses. (1050). I want to say the Medisinyl post (1064) was very clear and insightful. Thank You.

    One last thing. I want to say that I respect every position taken and every person on pinside. I just reviewed the pinside rules on religion and I understand why they are included. I promise not to express any further faith (religious) comment for the rest of this thread. I think we would all love it if we never see another topic like this on pinside. My hope is that the moderators will let this post slide if it violated pinside policy. I tried to walk a fine line. Not pushing anything, only defining and clarifying.

    Now back to are regularly scheduled programing. Oh no zombies See I do have a sense of humor.

    #1254 6 years ago

    I have only put this topic on my favorite list in order to check on it every day. This is definitely not one of my favorite threads. At the time I put this thread on my favorite list I had no idea it would remain at the top of the forum for a full week.

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