Just came across this... (news about John Trudeau)


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    #151 3 months ago
    Quoted from Sparky:

    You two wouldn't make very good jurors.

    I wouldn't want to be. But my brother-in-law is an FBI agent. He has told me a lot about how they pursue these types of cases. False arrests aren't very common when it comes to child pornography. Sometimes it's not what you think, but it's almost always something.

    The definition is broad though. Someone can ask for a nude from someone they think is 18. If they send and they're really 17, you can be in trouble. That's considered possession of child porn.

    Obviously it can be much worse, but they're not coming to your house with a warrant unless they have very good reason.

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    #152 3 months ago

    Judge doesn't issued a search warrant without evidence and probable cause.

    Guy doesn't get arrested without evidence found.

    Sure its "innocent until proven guilty" but in these kind of cases its just the opposite imo and that's how i feel until facts show otherwise.

    #153 3 months ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    Two chargeable crimes, not two files.

    Right. I'm not a CP expert (thank goodness) but we cover some of the larger cases at Ars Technica, where I work as the creative director, so it's something I've followed a little. Take this example:

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/to-keep-classified-docs-from-wikileaks-secret-doj-drops-2-child-porn-counts/

    the defense asked the judge to dismiss Counts 1 (receipt of child pornography) and 3 (transportation of child pornography).

    So two counts might mean possession and distribution for instance. It probably doesn't mean 2 images.

    #154 3 months ago
    Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

    https://www.briansilber.com/2015/07/how-do-police-investigate-child-pornography-cases.html
    Getting there, and learning..thanks for the info.

    Quoting for this page. You should read this link on how they typically go about these things.

    #156 3 months ago

    Deleted and draining thread too personal of an issue.

    Truely hope no one else or there families has been through or involved in anything like this and I hope above all else no one here ever does go through it.

    #157 3 months ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    But sure. Insult my wife and my family, and pretend that you were too stupid to divine that on your own.

    That's a real cheap shot dude. How am I supposed to know Who you are married to? I don't know a single thing about you except that you think you are as a good at pinball as Colin.

    Anyway, please let me know when it's ok to "tar and feather the guy". Ill wait patiently.

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    #158 3 months ago
    Quoted from J85M:

    And secondly I notice a lot of people saying they are saddened or feel sad by this news? Saddened for who or what exactly?

    I think it's perfectly reasonable to feel sad when you find out someone you might have admired, or at least followed his career, turns out to be something sickening. That's a normal human emotion. So is anger, or disgust, or other strong emotions, but sadness shouldn't be shamed.

    #159 3 months ago
    Quoted from J85M:

    Firstly anyone who makes a joke about any of this should just be ejected from the thread or banned from Pinside, this subject never warrants humour or jokes, yet unfortunately there is a good half dozen in this thread already.
    And secondly I notice a lot of people saying they are saddened or feel sad by this news? Saddened for who or what exactly? John? The industry? Those saddened thoughts should be with the kids that have been exploited and used for the gratification of people who really don't belong in our societies?

    Sad for the victims first and foremost, sad for all who it will impact, and sad that another person we admired turned out to be a milkshake duck.

    #160 3 months ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    His life is over.
    LTG

    Over, f%*&ing plain over.

    #161 3 months ago

    only pinside nerds know and care about who the specific designer of a pinball is.
    played pinball many years and didnt know about the specific designers and i honestly still dont care. if he is guilty the good news is that he is gonna spend alot of time in jail.

    #162 3 months ago

    No offence Aurich, or to those down voting my post above, but this topic is extremely personal and close to home for me, so my post above was made from personal experiences (something I'm not ashamed to admit online or in person).

    The minute something like this comes out I'm sorry but sadness isn't on the cards, regardless of the person it proves that the person you thought they where/admired was just a facade and that persons history erased imo.

    I am probably more emotional on this subject than most but for investigators to be lead to someone via a child pornogrpahy investigation usually means they where trying to flush out part of a child pornogrpahy ring.

    #163 3 months ago
    Quoted from J85M:

    Saddened for who or what exactly?

    I'm sad to learn somebody in my hobby has short eyes. I'm sad that actual exploitation took place in order to satisfy him and countless others. And I'm sad we're all here talking about it.

    The jokes could be purely tasteless or possibly less articulate ways of expressing that sadness. Grace and mercy go a long ways when people are processing noise.

    #164 3 months ago
    Quoted from Aurich:

    I think it's perfectly reasonable to feel sad when you find out someone you might have admired, or at least followed his career, turns out to be something sickening. That's a normal human emotion. So is anger, or disgust, or other strong emotions, but sadness shouldn't be shamed.

    This.

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    #165 3 months ago
    Quoted from Wolfmarsh:

    One of the pinball news outlets, if they want to find out more, could file a request with the police department for all of the paperwork.
    The sergeant's contact information is in the news release.

    I'd be willing to call the police dept, but (and this may sound silly) so far there has not been made a link to pinball, John's work and such in police publications. I certainly don't want to encourage them to start adding the pinball hobby/industry to any future publications on this matter as that may hurt the hobby and a lot of people in it.

    #166 3 months ago
    Quoted from robotron:

    only pinside nerds know and care about who the specific designer of a pinball is.
    played pinball many years and didnt know about the specific designers and i honestly still dont care.

    Good for you, Yet you post on a pinball enthusiast forum....

    #167 3 months ago
    Quoted from unigroove:

    I'd be willing to call the police dept, but (and this may sound silly) so far there has not been made a link to pinball, John's work and such in police publications. I certainly don't want to encourage them to start adding the pinball hobby/industry to any future publications on this matter as that may hurt the hobby and a lot of people in it.

    Good point.

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    #168 3 months ago
    Quoted from robotron:

    only pinside nerds know and care about who the specific designer of a pinball is.
    played pinball many years and didnt know about the specific designers and i honestly still dont care.

    What exactly is your point here? You don't care that you own a machine designed by a scumbag? Cool...

    #169 3 months ago
    Quoted from bangerjay:

    I was apprehensive about starting the thread

    Don't be.
    Every single parent in our pin world wants to know this.

    I'm sick.
    That is not the look of innocence, so I'm fearing the worst.
    Hope it's a mistake.

    #170 3 months ago
    Quoted from Aurich:

    We were Facebook friends and I dropped that quickly once I figured out what he was about. We're not compatible, let's leave it at that.
    I don't even like a lot of his games!
    And yet despite that, I always respected that he tried new things. He wasn't a cookie cutter designer, he took risks, and that's becoming a rare thing.

    I too saw his Facebook posts. I had to un-follow him to avoid seeing some of the really inappropriate things he would post.

    I hope he becomes a better person through all this. And any harm done to others is minimized.

    #171 3 months ago
    Quoted from doublestack:

    Good for you, Yet you post on a pinball enthusiast forum....

    we are all hear for many many reasons
    i get my all my pinball news here jefe

    #172 3 months ago

    I own 3 williams ij games that are near mint. My favorite game. I really hope Harrison Ford stays out of trouble. Will be selling my Gb premium soon.

    #173 3 months ago

    I just wrote something the other day that used him as an example of a legendary designer.... Too bad I already submitted it....

    That being said, I personally feel so much better after deciding to give up looking at sexual imagery several years ago. I wonder how many relationships are ruined because the partners don't connect any more and prefer pixels to people.

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    #174 3 months ago

    Once I found out John's favorite sandwich was the Subway Club I knew something was up.

    #175 3 months ago
    Quoted from xbloodgreenx:

    What exactly is your point here? You don't care that you own a machine designed by a scumbag? Cool...

    yeah

    "all trudeau pins are gonna lose value"

    #176 3 months ago
    Quoted from unigroove:

    I'd be willing to call the police dept, but (and this may sound silly) so far there has not been made a link to pinball, John's work and such in police publications. I certainly don't want to encourage them to start adding the pinball hobby/industry to any future publications on this matter as that may hurt the hobby and a lot of people in it.

    I totally agree. Once that connection is made, it will be a real kick in the teeth for Pinball. In some circles, pinball still has seedy connotations. This will just further tarnish this hobby's reputation in the eyes of some.

    #177 3 months ago

    I would be interested in hearing other peoples opinions on this:

    Personally, I don't see any reason for his prior games to become less desired or less valuable, reason being (unlike musical artists, for example) he doesn't get a royalty from any game sold (correct me if I'm wrong?), so it's not as though a purchase of Ghostbusters will support him financially. Were that the case, I get it completely.

    I suppose if someone were mentally unable to enjoy playing Ghostbusters, constantly reminded of this crime (if convicted of course), but I don't know that would be the case with most people.

    #178 3 months ago

    What a sick loser! His "kind" is going to find life very difficult behind bars. No sympathy here....

    #180 3 months ago

    I've never universally agreed with so many Pinsiders in one thread in my life.

    Or upvoted so many...

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    #181 3 months ago

    Well there goes any chance of a Ghostbusters update!

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    #182 3 months ago

    Last thing anyone should be worried about is what this means for the price of games he's designed, my heart goes out to any of the family's who's children maybe identified through this investigation which is often extremely common in these cases if several hundred/thousands of images are involved.

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    #183 3 months ago
    Quoted from enjoyvelvet:

    Well there goes any chance of a Ghostbusters update!

    Let colordmd know so they can finally get one released?

    #184 3 months ago

    #185 3 months ago
    Quoted from enjoyvelvet:

    Well there goes any chance of a Ghostbusters update!

    John does not write code and from what i heard has very little input....... not that it matters now.

    #189 3 months ago
    Quoted from Msch:
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    Specifically in this case involving children? Take it your not a parent?

    #190 3 months ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    Judge doesn't issued a search warrant without evidence and probable cause.
    Guy doesn't get arrested without evidence found.
    Sure its "innocent until proven guilty" but in these kind of cases its just the opposite imo and that's how i feel until facts show otherwise.

    Couldn't he have just watched the countless hours of other porn on the internet that's not illegal.

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    #191 3 months ago
    Quoted from J85M:

    Specifically in this case involving children? Take it your not a parent?

    Are war jokes funny? Are 9/11 jokes funny? Are titanic jokes still fair game? You'll lose this debate.

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    #192 3 months ago
    Quoted from Msch:
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    Really? C'mon man.

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    #193 3 months ago
    Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

    Really? C'mon man.

    I'm sorry! What topics are okay for humor?

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    #194 3 months ago

    99.9 percent of them. The other .1% is cheap and lazy. We're better than this as human beings.

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    #195 3 months ago

    There is such a thing as "poor taste".

    #196 3 months ago

    Good LORD. Makes me feel a tiny bit better I just sold a CFTBL. W T F all day and night. Wow and good night sir you are done.

    #197 3 months ago

    None of you snickered at a Michael Jackson joke I guess. Liars.

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    #198 3 months ago
    Quoted from Msch:

    None of you snickered at a Michael Jackson joke I guess. Liars.

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    #199 3 months ago
    Quoted from Msch:

    Are war jokes funny? Are 9/11 jokes funny? Are titanic jokes still fair game? You'll lose this debate.

    Most the people I hang around with don't tell jokes on either subject! And there is always a time place and a suitable audience.

    As for 911, being a firefighter and my misses previously an ambulance technician I have nothing but respect for 911 and all those involved and affected, so no I don't find tasteless jokes about it funny.

    #200 3 months ago

    Innocent until proven guilty. Just because he's been charged, doesn't mean he's guilty.
    Just google, "child porn charges dismissed." I was stunned by the number of cases where the government decided not to persue charges.

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