Yeah, I was not going to say anything until someone linked to his thoughts on the Aussie forum. I do not listen to his podcast as a rule.

Maybe SR was in denial or thought it was an error like mistaken identity and that's why he posted..

This football player got fired because of a mistaken identity crime and the fen Cowboys would not even consider that they made the wrong decision.

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Look at what happened to Fogel. Not that I feel bad.

Personally, even though I have a very intense dislike of Ritchie, my opinion is that people should just leave him out of this. He's not the kind of guy that strikes me as NORMALLY willing to cover up or mince things he's said previously, so the fact that he thought the post was worth deleting should say quite a lot in my opinion. I know I personally only ever delete things I've said when I feel like I've really screwed up. You can't fault the guy for having a moment of clarity and then resolving it as he saw fit.

Thank you.

At another time, Ill share some of my last 6 months work into socio/political forum research I have been doing for a friend.

What Steve did was very stupid. He made a mistake I can accept that but in this day and age posting something like that on social media is not ok. He has to expect and accept he is going to take some heat for it. I'm sure he will be fine and things will move on. Stern needs to educate their employees. I think it's fair to say these guys are a little older and didn't grow up with this kind of media. I can tell you this, if someone at the company I worked for posted something like that, their job would be in serious jeopardy. At the very least there would be a very sincere apology made publicly. They could easily be fired. That being said we all have to take social media awareness courses and know exactly what we can say and the legal issues around it. I can give Steve a pass he fucked up and I am sure he realizes that now. I can also understand why some people expect a statement and apology.

P.S. Kaneda is clearly trolling for clicks my post has nothing to do with that mess.

Ugh. Just finished reading this and now I feel like I need a shower. Some of the posts on here are repulsive.

First thing I've read from him in quite awhile. So glad he's gone.

They are immensely different. Offenses such as distribution, soliciting, travelling, wire transmission, etc all carry a lot heavier penalties because they further the criminal enterprise and have physical victims. In Jared's case, the actual charges may have been reduced to only 2 as part of his plea, but I guarantee the judge was aware of that and sentenced according to the crime and not necessarily just the charges. In JT's case, he is at this point only charged with 2 counts of possession, which is the lowest category. Maybe the victim was 17 instead of 2 and sent him the pictures herself? I am not saying that makes it right, but all of it does come into consideration as to how he will be prosecuted and ultimately sentenced if convicted.

One thing folks need to keep in mind is that it was not all that many years ago when a 18 year old girl was considered a spinster. Marriages at a very young age were common, and that is still a practice in many parts of the world. Again, I am not defending anything or anyone, I am just saying we don't know what he was actually in possession of, and morality does seem to change over time with the social norms.

Isn't that kinda like the "Department of Redundancy Department"?

Sorry but the whole she was 17 and looked older thing is as plausible as the tainted supplements defense in athletes getting caught for steroids.

Then it's perfectly plausible because I've manufactured supplements and the level of ingredient integrity for them is damn near zero. Case in point, look at the advertising Alex Jones has on his website.

Read one of my earlier posts and then come back with the same opinion. I was a cop for a long time and worked child crimes for over 2 years. I have seen a lot of things that make you question everything about people and common decency that you thought you knew, and I would love nothing better to go back to my rookie days when I had the luxury of seeing things in black and white. It would make life so much easier. But instead I have learned that very few situations are actually that cut and dried, and most things are not what they seem.

What would you do if a 17 year old person who admired you from afar, sent you nude or semi-nude pictures of themselves and maybe even propositioned you? What if they were all dolled up and looked much older than what they were? Would you be flattered and keep the photos? Would you show them to your buddies? At what point would you know they were technically child pornography? I am not talking of a 6 year old here, and don't get me wrong, this is all disgusting....I am just asking how you would know and how you would react. What if the police showed up on your door before you even had a chance to delete them? You are in possession, but are you guilty?What if you accidentally clicked on an illegal site? Do you clear your cache and format your hard drive? If not, then those pictures are probably still on your hard drive. Are you a child pornographer? What if you copied a picture of a nude girl from a website that was considered perfectly legal art, and you found out later she was under 18? If you had any thoughts other than disgust, does that make you a pervert? What if you show that "artful" image to a friend and lake a lewd comment...does that now take you from appreciating art to being a child predator?

All I am trying to say here is if he is guilty, he deserves the book thrown at him. But our system is based on the premise that a person is innocent until PROVEN guilty. It is why the country is so great. Yes, there are all kinds of injustices that we can bring up, but the basic rule of justice usually prevails in the end. We all here know NOTHING of this case other than that fact he was arrested and charged. We don't know the evidence, we don't know the circumstances, and there isn't a one of us here that wouldn't be screaming from the top of our lungs for people to stop jumping to conclusions if the tables were turned. He needs to have his day in court before we all sentence him to the gallows. I will agree none of this looks good for him, but we are now over 800 posts of pure speculation.

How much time do you think they waste on the 17 year old girl cases when they are swamped with far more serious crimes against children. I find it hard to believe 17 year old girl are send JT nudies, he is not Beiber.

Also I'm 45 if anyone sent me a nude I would address it. A young girl I would inform the authorities immediately.

Hahahaha....That is for sure. But I wasn't saying that is what happened. You were commenting how you don't but the whole "she is 17 but looked 18 thing". I am just saying things are just not that black and white in the real world. I was commenting on your statement, not what happened to JT.

I have seen guys who I felt were innocent, convicted because of really shoddy evidence and a mob mentality. I always ask myself how I would react if I were them. We are all 1 accusation away from being in the same shoes he is. And to that you say, "well if I am innocent, I have nothing to be afraid of"........but we have no idea if JT is guilty of anything, and he has 800 posts of something to be afraid of.

Thank you for verifying that fact.

Do you still have the IP records on who posted it?

Always at your service.

Vid

PM sent.

LOL Touche

OMG!!!

Your always good for comic relief

good one boob

Not sure if this was posted but here new news peace on JT and pinball

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Noted-Pinball-Machine-Designer-Charged-With-Child-Porn-Possession-442100123.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_CHBrand

Wow that's crazy

and really sad at the same time

I'll have one too please

I won't have what he's having lol

I know, right?! Opinions on a podcast... so yucky! So criminal!

Let's get back to more juicy gossip talk about the kiddie porn guy!

Me either! Just imagine the boob in the nude!

Like you retired police officer and I agree with you, but as statics do show us these sick bastards are not looking at girls who are 17 even maybe 16 that play them self's off for 20+ year old for the simple reason that hey look too much like adult women and they won't be stimulating for them to satisfy their disgusting habits. In addition now that we know that the comment from 2013 blog was indeed real, that troubles me even more so as an investigator.

You would just sell it a week later.

Let's be fair, it'd be gone in a couple days if I could find the right trade.

Please, you'll be stuck with it for years.

I agree with what you say, but the comment about the 17 year old was just to make a point. How many times did you work a case where you were immediately convinced a guy was guilty, but then the case ended up taking a 180 degree turn and you find out it was someone else? All I am saying is he deserves his day in court and people should stop making assumptions and hear the facts first. Experience would tell me there is a lot more going on here than meets the eye, especially given that previous post. But the truth of the matter is that none of us know anything other than the fact he was arrested and charged.

Agree 1000%, but the odds are most likely not stacking in his favor but we need to have faith in the system to prove or disprove any accusations level against him. Now not saying this is the case but if the feds are involved too which we don't know at this point....oh boy that's another whole can of whoop ass.

Just looked on my site editor and history doesn't seem to go that far back. Perhaps there could be a way to find out if needed. I would likely have to get tech support on the line.

I worked for a large company for many years. Every now and then, you'd come to work in the morning to whispered gossip that some (reasonably well-liked) person in another department was fired the night before but that's all we'd know. We never would be formally told why as it was always deemed a "need to know" basis. There might be some gossip for awhile but no group demands for accountability were made of our employer as there was a labor union and a process and in that process is where the justice would be found.

Over the years, many of us employees each took our turn at being character-assassinated at the hands of fellow employees who interpreted situations in which they did not have first-hand knowledge. It was never good and never helpful and we were just stuck with enduring the scarlet letter placed upon us, until the winds of boredom blew their attention to the next new shiny bauble. Because I am not a socially needy person, I was an occasional target for others who were. In one experience, I worked hard to save my job from layoff which meant concurrently saving the jobs of 17 other people while several of them in their low character made my work situation so untenable with their harassment that I had to invoke the EEOC to get the employer to get those folks to back off. I was successful in both things and, to this day, those hillbillies cannot acknowledge that I saved their jobs.

I bother you with this story because of these 800 posts. The single event of this arrest has garnered a mythology of sorts, and people look to the pinball manufacturer to say something... anything... to participate in the script of this mythology probably because that is the choreography to which we have been accustomed. The podcasters and other such clarions have something with which to fill another day's broadcast and may run it out, getting their pound of flesh, until their cost exceeds their benefits. This single event, with no other facts, creates all this mastication. JT becomes the excuse for many people to do what they are apt to do anyway. I have been that excuse enough times.

I know Steve Ritchie well enough that what he is reported to have said was not an endorsement of the behavior in question nor was it to minimize what the behavior is. Nobody goes online to defend this crime. Even if I did not know him at all, I would not play it like he meant those things. I mean that would be just too drama queen for me. I have enough life experience to understand people and to know it is best to give people the benefit of the doubt in things that they say. Especially when he is as peripheral to what happened as are you and me. I would have hoped that some people would have brought their life experience to this in lieu of demanding the choreography of an apology.

I see it as his plea to not contribute to the very mythology that is happening because, in time, I predict more people will tire and start to join him in wishing the topic would go away. Steve has a misunderstood prescience. We adore him for this quality when he designs games and we should remember it at times like this.

Thank you.

A Washington Post article on how law enforcement catches people viewing child prn.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/how-the-government-is-using-malware-to-ensnare-child-porn-users/2016/01/21/fb8ab5f8-bec0-11e5-83d4-42e3bceea902_story.html?utm_term=.1228f5037f16

you need to understand more about how google does indexing and the whole page value stuff. Just because its there doesn't mean google will index it. Now you've linked to flipper though, google will start to notice that.

Union justice...lol...

The only thing the union has done in the nearly 10 years I've been in my current job is to keep people who didn't do their work in their jobs, and waste my time coming around every so often thinking I give a crap about which one of those lazy f's gets elected to be treasuer. Joke is on them, I vote for the people that DON'T harass me at my desk. I haven't had an actual legitimate raise in 6 years. Some of those years I've actually taken pay CUTS. I dunno about other unions, but the CWA is a friggin' JOKE.

John Trudeau's new shirt:

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I thought Steve obviously meant that someone's trouble in their personal life is generally irrelevant to their professional life. If we didn't have to go on and on about how many children we have so this is how outraged we are, and argue about how things are tainted now or not, it could all blow over, as in JT simply doesn't work at Stern any more and that's the extent of its effect on pinball.

All this guessing and speculating is tawdry, obsessive rubbernecking. Yes, the alleged crime raises a vile and terrifying specter, so emotions run high, but think for a second, perhaps that is causing a huge and premature overreaction? Let the justice system do what it's there for.

Meanwhile, I'd also like to point out that it's not someone "is innocent until proven guilty." (Unless you subscribe to Bill Clinton's "is"!) It's "presumed innocent" and if someone actually "is innocent" then they did no crime.

Every time a Chinese restaurant goes out of business around my house, without fail a neighbor will tell me, in hushed tones, that the Health Department found cats in the freezer and shut the place down.

I always tell them that we used to eat cats all the time in Switzerland and nobody ever worried about it. Their delicious.

Taste like chicken.

Steve said "It was a bad day for pinball." He did not say it was a bad day for John Trudeau. I think people incorrectly made a logical jump to Steve hoping John's problem went away.
The crime is despicable, but it should not be associated with pinball. Steve wanted "it" to go away for pinball. If you are demonizing Steve for the post, you are implying that Steve is too stupid to realize that not posting about it would make John's problems go away....

Taste like fish..........

And I thought nothing in this thread would so much as make me chuckle....

Come on, I don't like SR either but he's not stupid. Very smart according to him

I think he was being a smart ass and it came out wrong.

He knows Pinside isn't going silent on any shitstorm of ANY relevance and this one is a biggie

Anyone claiming to be upset with SR is a (insert personal insult) that just likes to complain IMO.

The dude was in shock @ the situation & doesn't have political advisors to feed him perfect scrubbed replies.

Look at *some* of the shit you guys wrote. Stupid replies & self rightous manifestos.

Aaaaaaand if I was Gary I wouldn't say shit to the media. Can't trust those antagonists. F em. IMO Stern should just say "We cannot comment on the situation" & move on.

I have some Stern gripes but this situation aint one of em. I think some folks are taking out their Stern frustrations with a false campaign right now.

OMG Vid!!! And I used to like you . . . .

Right on Curly. F ing media

Wouldn't say a F ing word either. Let the system play out

Yeah! F the media! Fake news! Media sucks! It's their fault!!!!

Uhh wait what are we talking about again? I get lost in my own rage sometimes.