Kinda but its has its merits aswell. I don't want to sift through multiple posts about problems with the ole mechanical bull there when I don't have that problem or to listen to how if you don't have the LE/Pre ur missing out etc. I'd rather not listen to it.

Really like the first one without the freeplay of course.

I would love these 2 without freeplay. Thanks very much they look great.
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Already got em

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There in and I might have my Pro tomorow. Oh yeah.

Unless ur done with Maiden ofcourse. I recently got to Battle the Beast and after many close calls its feeling like chooping wood a little so as much as I've enjoyed the game time to go but JP2 will be here Friday and with the right mix of chemicals that should be a great night.

Give it enough time and its easy to fall back in love with it. That will ceratinly happen with Maiden and theres no way I won't own it again. But probably a Pro next time around.

100% and it will be a Pro.

Yes u are and theres nothing wrong with that. "some people never go crazy, what truly boring lives they must lead" Barfly 1987
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Yep I have one they were in last week, early last week.

Wizards Castle, man I loved that place. Cloverdale Mall early day when you should be in school, Hash bots and good times.

Whatever the reason I'm glad they don't have faces of the actors all over, I wish Newman was left out as well. His little comments seemed forced. Trying to get into the theme is proving more difficult than I had thought so its looking like I'm gonna enjoy this for a short while then move on, or maybe its gonna grow on me. Its certainly not having the impact that Maiden or BK3 did right away.

Same but that flipper post will losen so enough, what I'm noticing is that unless I realy hit the right flipper button full torque the upper flipper will either not activate at all or be very weak. Is that just a leaf spring adj?

Well it only took 48hrs and about a dozen plays to now finding this game amazing. I had posted on thur I think out of the box it wasn't having a positive impact on me due to gameplay and theme but wow after a a couple good games both gameplay and theme are really great. I think by the time Keith is finished with code this thing will be quite something, it already is so can only get better.

I've been asking myself that with almost every pinball I've ever played. I'm looking forward to some alternative options as well, for now thank sweet innocent baby Jesus for the speech attenuation option. Maiden has been the only games in many years that didn't require that adj.

I find as long as I go full torque on the plunger it never misses. Could be ur style

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I agree, and there's plenty out there that rival even Wonka.

I know this will seem crazy to many of you but I much prefer the look of this pin without those sling plastics.

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How many plays if u don't mind me asking?

I think both companies have been pretty good when it comes to mechanical issues, its this playfield business thats causing the problem. I've never had an issue, probably due to the fact that I play around 300 to 500 times then sell and buy something new, I'm sure there are many cases with much less in terms of plays with issues but personally I've been lucky. My JP2 is perfect. If Stern and JJP don't address the consumers with problems its going to take a toll. Time will tell.

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"build quality"

new code installed and damn is this pin great.

What a lovely picture. I think I'm gonna save that image, just for posterity, whatever the word means.

Well where else? Thats where I put my bands.

Yeah, for me it seems to be a grand on a Pre and about 800 on the Pro if you want to move it fast and it has low plays (300) so the difference is quite small and relative to the price increase. Usually when I'm done with a game it becomes "I just want it gone" rather than I'll hold out for top dollar so sometimes I take even more of a hit but so what. A c note a month for a year to get a NIB box pin, play it at home and the thrill of it all. Less than a movie a week. Oh yeah JP2 is amazing, the new code while still young has really made the game alot better. Also I have noticed a little pooling around the washer of one of the slings and a small chip at the 3rd flipper post. I tighten the shit out of it yesterday so maybe that did it, who knows. I wouldn't have noticed either defects if not for all the complaints and thusly a detailed examination, for me personally I don't care but I know alot of u are holding off buying because of it so letting u know.

Hey Cock I gotta tell ya the "guinea pig pro" crap is weak, Last week.

Yes, went with yellow and clear white in the GI added a spot on the right sling. Its fully lit up now. The frosted warm white sucks. Also added some strips to the back ramp and Trex
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Onto the GI.

Nah its the frosted warm white, only a well known jackass would think those look good.

Black Knight looks pretty good to me. I'll take both, I have both. I think its called a "menage et trois".

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Maiden is a great theme and BK3 is an amazing pin.

I have that as well where only about half the plunges make the ramp, anyone change the spring yet and if so what color worked the best?
Also I just added some mylar around the post at the 3rd flipper, highly recomend this before it starts to chip, mine has very slightly right where there little hole for flipper alignment is seems to be holding up nicely.
Maiden and this game both have such great and challenging shots, I think Keith is making pins that will challenge even his expert style and I'm all for it. It really makes it much more satisfying when you have a good run.

Didn't notice that but it will be used now to full affect. Thank you

I'm putting my money on settings and outlane posts. If not then my jaw will drop as well.

Set up a mode with the chaos multi ready in the wings and work that spinner at max with 2 or 3x PF value and Bobs ur Uncle. Uncle Bob.

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Doesn't matter really, I usually set up the chaos multi then start Control room and hit Smart missle with a good amount of shots made u can reach 300 mil easy.

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Yep. For me its better than Maiden and I love Maiden.

I'm a big fan of JM but make room for Maiden. Unless u haven't reached power down and if not then I guess you better get to work.

Listen its not that bad, it all depends are you a buyer who scans the PF and could find a loose very fine blond girls pube hiding under the slings? if so don't buy right now. For me even if I saw a black fly like coarse Russian girls pube in plain site it wouldn't bother me. I have a small chip by the 3rd flipper post that u can't see from the players perspective, a little piece of mylar fixed it up so it won't progress and I don't care anymore. The game is just too damn fun.

Oh and that was presumptuous of me, "a fine blond persons pube"

Wasn't aimed at you just a general observation. We all know the levels of nit picking that exist in this hobby. One of the main reasons I don't really deal with older used pins anymore, its was a major drag to deal with some jackass bringing up every little issue trying to get a deal. I do understand at these price points you shouldn't have out of the box clear problems or chipping of any kind but I can deal with it within reason. I probably wouldn't even have noticed it at all if not for the threads.

I just put a rubber washer under the post washer and my very small chip hasn't increased in size at all. The one in that picture is quite large.

Hey Cock, Still? its getting old man.

Its a fine upgrade and all but not really necessary, I play loud and the stock speakers are great. I've never added a speaker upgrade and rarely add shakers, not that they don't enhance gameplay a little but not enough for my taste to be essential. Just enjoy ur pin for a few months before u do anything else. She's a beauty, one of the best I've ever played.

U can back off the frequency used but not the intensity unless things have changed since my last shaker a couple years back. Otherwise u need to adjust the arms of the device itself. I usually had to. There should be a thread on how to do that here somewhere, its easy.

I think it depends on pitch, I set the back legs pretty high as I enjoy faster gameplay and with the default flipper setting never had an issue. The orange spring on the other hand has worked very well to eliminate rejects on the plunge.

I love that and hope its doesn't change, I play in the dark as well its a great little scare during gameplay.

That insert isn't super bright like that picture suggests, its fine.

Well we all get old, theres no shame in that.

Its way way better. Spot on the right sling and all good.

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Thats cause my pic sucks. It really doesn't. But I like the sun lights too.

Thats OK Delt I hear there might be an Ink Spots pin in the works, will that resonate better? Actually I'm a big fan of the Ink Spots.

Thats great but this is a JP3 thread so whats the point? Start a ACNC appreciation thread and good luck to ya. I think many pinsiders including me have no desire to even play ACNC due to theme alone. Spooky games for me can be fun but they are lacking in comparison to Stern and JJP. Love the game Im happy for ya, actually I don`t care at all but why bring it here

Man u right, I'm seething over here. Seems maybe ur upset not too many people like ur little Alice Cooper game. Its ok. Oh and not listening to those AC songs is never a loss, all gain. Good day to u sir.

Got the Stern post fix on Friday game feels just that much more solid. Greatness.