I've never understood why modern Stern games needed more GI light on the playfield. These games are already the best lit and brightest games in history. I swear most games pre 90's games have like 12 incandescent lights in the GI and somehow we all survived. Even 90's games were exceptionally dim especially pre leds. Now games need to be lit up like the Vegas Strip.

Pros hold there value better, especially with the risk of playfield chipping. Look at all the Premiums from a few years ago that are selling for under $6k now. Even perennial greats like TWD. Pros still sell for very close to what they were bought new for. I was originally thinking Premium for JP2 but with the recent quality issues I think I'd be happier with a cheaper Pro and knowing I don't have close to $7500 in it. The Pro is still a blast to play and I don't think you are sacrificing that much.

Elwin said that if there wasn't a post there it would go SDTM which is one of the reasons they added the post (the other was to protect the flipper). With the post it's supposed to hit the left sling if you don't flip.

Why not get the Met Pro now and enjoy it for a year and then sell it to get a JP2 Pro next Fall? If you're getting a steal of a price, it's doubtful you'd lose much money when it came time to sell.

Can someone do me a favor and photoshop the Premium translite onto the Pro? I want to see what it looks like. I'm leaning towards getting a Pro but don't really dig the font so it may be worth purchasing a Premium translite to go with it.

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I did it in my mind and thought the same thing. That orange sky may clash but it's still probably better than the Pro translite. They should have just put the same logo on as the Premium or made it look more like the original JP translite.

Thanks! That looks better than I had pictured in my mind. When you factor in that the game is usually placed in between other games i your line-up and you typically just look at it from the front I think this is going to be the way to go.-at least for me if I end up ordering a Pro.

The color looks washed out with those cool whites. Compare your pic to the pic a few posts above with Comet Sunlights and the warmer color temperature looks so much better! look at the slings or lane guides specifically

Typically one of the first things I do on my Stern games is get rid of the cool white and replace with warm or sunlight frosted bulbs from Comet.
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Does anyone know if Stern is presently building Pro's or are the Pro's available now still the one's from a couple back with the clearcoat issues?

I had a similar experience to Jack Sparrow above. was leaning Premium but after playing it I really didn't see much of a difference in gameplay and the Pro will likely be more reliable in the long-run.

If the difference is only $1400 it may be worth it. Seems like most of the price quotes here in the States is a $1600-$1800 difference between models. I really need to play a Premium/LE in an environment where I can hear and feel (shaker) the differences. When I've played them in the past it has been in shows which has made the difference seem negligible. I'm in no hurry to buy and know that this game will be available to buy NIB for years' to come so I should get more chances to play before having to make a final decision.

Just curious... What are the manufacture dates on the latest JP Pro's? Is Stern currently running Pro's or just Premium's right now?

I think the biggest issues with Pros so far have been the Raptor gates breaking and the upper flipper post coming loose as well as clearcoat issues on early run machines.-I'm hoping these are resolved in the later run games. Does anyone know if Stern currently has Pro's on the line? What are some the recent confirmed Pro build dates? I'm considering ordering one but want to make sure I don't get stuck with one on backstock with the aforementioned issues.

Did you install the Premium/le code on your Pro?

I just ordered a Pro after pondering this for a couple months. I've played both and really didn't see that much of a difference. I like the premium art package better but just couldn't justify the extra $1600. I also have a Rick and Morty on order that I'll have to pay for in a few months so that made the decision even easier. If JP was a Grail theme for me I'd spend the extra money but I'm guessing that I'll be ready to move the game on in a year or two to buy the next must-have game (KME's next most likely).

What are the scoring differences between Pro and Premium? I thought I read something about 2x raptor jackpots that aren't on the Pro? Do the helicopter spinner blades add any scoring or strategy?

Premium has the rising gate target and stop post. Pro has a diverter gate and exits through the control room.

Pro is easier to start but Premium gives you some scoring advantages (2x) during Raptor multiball. I think most people agree that the Premium Raptor pit is better implemented and prefer it to the Pro. It's really the only gameplay difference between the two versions. I ultimately decided that the Premium wasn't worth an extra $1600 but judging by the popularity of the Premium on Pinside I am probably in the minority.

Have you tried going into the settings to adjust the timers and difficulty settings? I happen to like the default difficulty levels. Not every Stern game has to be a multi-ball fest out of the box.

I'd go JP2 Pro over DP Pro. You are sacrificing far less in gameplay with JP2, primarily the Raptor pit. Deadpool Premium is a must buy over the Pro. That smooth left orbit shot that loops back to the right flipper is sweet! Plus you get two extra drop target banks and a smoother playing game over the Pro. Most of the trouble areas on JP2 come on the Premium/LE and it can take a bit of work to get the Trex and raising gate adjusted right. I'd also worry about long term reliability due to the complexity of the Trex mech. Pro is just a solid shooter that doesn't really sacrifice much in gameplay.

Or bring able to play "Are you a God" in Ghostbusters is a recent example.

Sounds like a ton of fun and I hope it makes it toall games soon!

Thanks for putting this in the game Keith! I've got a Premium on order and this is going to really enhance my enjoyment of the game. Can you mention this idea to Lyman for ACDC? Encore would be perfect for this since it's already 3 balls and has a good amount of depth to it. Yeah, I know the points won't be nearly as high taking the shortcut, but it would still be a fun way to practice a wizard mode that I've only been to a handful of times.

The best thing you can do is call around for pricing and also check if the distributor has the game in stock and ready to ship immediately. I don't think JP Premiums are hitting the line again at Stern until April so availability would be as much of a concern as pricing unless you don't mind waiting a couple of months.

I hope you're right. Keep us updated on your game.

Agree with Chris 100% here!

I ordered Dec. 20th and was told my Premium should be shipping in April sometime... Long wait but it will be worth it!

I've had this before. spraying the motor with contact cleaner seems to usually take care of it.

Nice! Looks like the rumor that games are on the line at Stern again is true.

I doubt you'll have anything to worry about. You could always put in a Cliffy shooter lane protector to help absorb the brunt of the ball-kickout and protect the wood.

Get a NIB Premium. I just bought one last week and its absolutely perfect! No signs of the playfield issues of last year. My favorite art package of the 3 models as well. If you want to powdercoat and add pdi glass you can always do that. The guy who owns this one has the right idea!

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http://pinballdecals.com/NonGlareOpticalGlassPage.html

PDI is regarded as the best but Stern also sells their own non reflective glass as well for a bit less.

A Pinsider named Vitty owns the game and posted it in the Premium/LE JP thread. But yes the glass will fit in any standard pinball.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/welcome-to-the-jurassic-park-le-club?tu=vitty

Congrats! Was yours also built on 6/05? I know I was in the same batch as you and my game also seems amazing quality wise and plays perfectly after tweaking the launch ramp. Spinner shot was even dialed in from the factory and T-Rex grabs almost everything.

Most of my experience is with a Pro, but I just bought a Premium and have owned it for about 10 days now. I vastly prefer the Raptor pit on the Premium. It's just much more engaging and the Raptor MB rules are designed much better around the Premium/LE model where it locks a ball and enables 2X scoring which isn't available on the Pro. You can play "dirty-pool" with the locked ball to extend the timers. I was on the fence and actually had a Pro ordered at one time, but I ended up changing my order to a Premium and don't regret it one bit! Between the T-Rex and improved Raptor Pit it's well worth it. Plus the Premium also has an awesome custom soundtrack available from Timlaw79 (a Pinsider here) that really adds to the game's immersiveness.

It will hold the ball in the control lane sometimes but it behaves quite differently than how the Premium/LE locks the ball.

Here's the Raptor Tri-ball rule-sheet (Look at the end section on 2X Scoring)

Raptor Tri-Ball (RTB)

Raptor Capture: Complete the Raptor Pen standup targets two times (increasing by one for each subsequent RTB) to light the Raptor Lock. A shot to the dead end lane will instantly count as a completion of all of the targets. The Raptor Lock (Capture) can only be made as a shot to the dead end lane.

Electric Fence Integrity: After a raptor has been captured, additional shots to the enclosure will weaken the fence and start RTB when the integrity is at 0%, with a shot to the dead end lane. The first Raptor Tri-Ball starts with the fence at 50% integrity. The fence integrity decreases more on shots to the dead end lane. The lightning bolt inserts will flash when RTB is ready to start with the final shot.

Worth noting - you can also start Raptor Tri-Ball for free off of a lucky Smart Missile where you select the option and successfully make the shot.

Raptor Tri-Ball is a multi-phase multiball, with rule elements that pay homage to multiballs in older Data East games:

Phase 1 - Raptor Tri-Ball: Shoot the left and right ramps once each for a Raptor Jackpot. The second Jackpot is worth double that of the first. The Jackpot value increases with switch hits (by how much?)

Phase 2 - Raptor Chaos: The CHAOS letters will light. Shoot all the CHAOS shots (not necessarily in order) for Raptor Chaos Jackpots worth 1/5 of the Double Jackpot value.

Phase 3 - Raptor Rampage: Raptor Tri-Ball becomes "Raptor Hex-Ball”! (or “Raptor Quint-Ball”). 3 more balls are now in play, but no more than 6. Super Jackpots are lit on the right ramp and upper loop, with the base value of the Double Jackpot, and are multiplied by the number of balls in play. The second Jackpot, once again, will be worth double the value of the first Jackpot. Get 2x Scoring ready during this phase, and watch your score skyrocket! Collecting either Super Jackpot will also award you with a Fossil for your efforts.

Phase 4 - Victory Laps: After collecting both supers, all shots are lit for Raptor Rampage victory lap jackpots worth the same value as the Raptor Chaos Jackpots, multiplied by # of balls still in play. Each shot unlights when you shoot it, but you can relight them all by shooting the Raptor Pen center target. However, each time you complete them prior to shooting Raptor Pen, the last one awards a Raptor Rampage super jackpot worth the sum of your victory laps collected after your prior Raptor Rampage super.

Raptor Tri-Ball 2x Scoring (PREMIUM / LE ONLY): On the Premium / LE models, hitting all three targets in the Raptor Pen and then making the center lane will temporarily lock a ball and double all Jackpots collected for 15 seconds. Hitting the captive ball will reset the 15 second timer.

RTB progress is not saved between RTB’s, and during each RTB, your progress does not loop back around to Phase 1 after you collect a Phase 4 super.

http://tiltforums.com/t/stern-jurassic-park-rulesheet-wip/5644

Yes it is.

Thats normal. Happens after so many games (2000) By design.

The vibration is likely causing the spinner switch to activate. It's likely gapped too tight. You should be able to manually bend the switch arm slightly to correct it.

I own a Premium and agree that Raptor is easier to start on Prem/LE than the Pro. Premium also has the advantage of "Raptor bombs." When you get a get a captive ball behind the gate 1 hit away from starting Raptor MB save it until the ball is close to draining and give it a good nudge to start MB and extend your ball. Also the 2X Raptor scoring really makes that MB more fun on the Premium than the Pro.

I have played on a Pro where the Raptor pit was very exploitable though. You need to make sure the sling switches are set sensitive or else you can back hand that shot and catch it on the left flipper all day. The slings on my Premium just seem way more sensitive and powerful than Pro's I have played on route, but maybe that's because my game isn't fully broken in yet.-it's only a month old.

For a 65 million year old mosquito, I'd say it looks pretty good

Congrats! you picked a great game.

Curious where you bought such an old run (almost a year old) NIB from? I would be a bit concerned on the playfield clear quality from a Pro game from that time-frame. There may also be an improved post that you can request for beneath the upper right flipper as the early one's fell out and caused chipping.

And people wonder why Stern employees don't have more of a presence on Pinside.

That looks incredible Delt! Can't wait to see more.

I'd go Premium. This is one of a handful of Stern titles where the Premium is really worth it. Best art package and the moving T-Rex and improved Raptor pen are great additions.

The 3 reasons I went for the Premium were:
1. The T-Rex toy is really cool and adds to the ambiance.-but doesn't really add or subtract to the gameplay. I guess it could be a negative to gameplay if your T-Rex has problems catching the ball. Luckily mine has been good in that regard.

2. The Raptor pit is more fun to shoot and Raptor MB is more fun and lucrative because you can lock a ball in the raptor pit (behind the raised gate) for 2X jackpots which isn't possible on the Pro. You can also play Dirty pool for jackpots.

3. I vastly prefer the Premium cabinet and translite art to the Pro and also prefer the cab art over the LE. It feels like the purest JP artwork because of the Raptors in the kitchen scene.

From a gameplay perspective alone, the Pro is great and really isn't missing much from the Premium. The biggest difference is Raptor MB, but beyond that it's mostly the same. It is fun to shoot the ball into the T-Rex's mouth on the Premium for Super Jackpots (on the Pro you just shoot the ramp) but that's mostly aesthetics. The horizontal helicopter spinner is the other change between the Pro and Premium but I would say that is pretty minor. I do like the sound effect but it's not a must-have feature.

I think If I hadn't played a Premium and just a Pro I'd be totally happy owning a Pro as it's a fantastic game, but I'm happy I decided to go Premium on this one.

Here is the part of the rulesheet that differs between Pro and Premium (from tiltforums)

Raptor Tri-Ball 2x Scoring (PREMIUM / LE ONLY): On the Premium / LE models, hitting all three targets in the Raptor Pen and then making the center lane will temporarily lock a ball and double all Jackpots collected for 15 seconds. Hitting the captive ball will reset the 15 second timer.
http://tiltforums.com/t/stern-jurassic-park-rulesheet/5644

Good points. Yes it does affect gameplay slightly, especially when it throws the ball randomly vs. Dropping on the wire form. I think it does up my enjoyment of the game just because of how interactive it is!

I think it would be comparable to a game like Funhouse, if they had a version with a static Rudy head. Gameplay would be mostly the same but the interactive Rudy makes a big difference in how you enjoy that game.

Thanks for the suggestion. I just tried this on mine and now its super smooth! Previously I had a flat ramp screw which made it about 75% better than it was but with just mylar it's now 100% smooth.

I dont think the ball makes any contact with the shooter lane screws.

Remove the nut from under the playfield and then tap it up using a punch (or screwdriver) and hammer.

Take a ball with your hand and run it over that spot and see if it hits that screw. On my game it does for the lower screw but doesn't on the upper one.

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The ramps aren't countersunk so that type of screw still won't lie perfectly flat. They are better than the original screws but still make slight contact with the ball.

I have a June 2020 Premium. I don't think the cliffy circles are needed. Just make sure that the post below the upper flipper is in tight. I've had to tighten it up a couple times since getting my game. I would at least put mylar down in the shooter lane and outhole drain.-I ended up getting the Cliffys for these.

I'd also check for any areas on your playfield where metal guides (left of the shooter lane) and where the apron edges meet the playfield.-mine was starting to dig into the playfield. I ended up putting mylar down in these areas to prevent this from happening. Other than that though Stern does a good job of putting mylar in the key areas of the game.

My raptor was leaning as well so I used a clear washer to put pressure on that leg and straighten him up.

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Is it possible for you to move that ramp wireform slightly to the right? Usually there is some room for adjustment.

I haven't tried this, but if your game isn't bright enough couldn't you just replace all of the GI bulbs with Comet 5 SMD insane bright leds in sunlight white? It would be a much cheaper/stealthier way to improve the brightness and visibility on your game. I can see just fine on my game even in complete darkness but I think I'd prefer going the stealth route vs. putting on spotlights or big strips of lighting that put "zebra stripes" all over your game.

If you go with a routed JP Pro, don't buy one that was made before November 2019 as they are known for having playfield issues. The key giveaway is that the early ones don't have the artwork cut away from the posts.

Thanks for the input! I was the one playing the game in the video. I agree that the shots at 2:30 and 2:43 weren't perfect. They were hard enough but not 100% accurate. I think they were shots that would still easily make the ramp if the trex were up but they did seem to hit the right sidewall of the ramp which likely made it hard for the magnet to get a clean grab of them. Overall though I'd say my game is close to 90% on clean shots. It does on occasion miss one that i expect it to grab but for the most part it does a good job and I'm happy with it. I've been fortunate that I haven't had to make any adjustments to mine but if there are ways to get it closer to 99% on clean shots I'd be happy to hear them.

Mine is smooth. Almost always comes around to my upper right flipper.

You may have to enable it in the menu options.

I agree on that comparison to TWD. Both games kick my ass on a regular basis. I feel like you really have to be "on" with your shots to enjoy JP2. There's just no room for error because your shots need to be so precise. The slings and outlanes are pretty unforgiving too. Definitely more F you moments than F yeah for me, but it does make it really satisfying when you do!

6,750,000 is my highest as well. Curious to see if anyone has gotten over 7 million though.

If anyone is looking to upgrade the stock cards I can't recommend these lenticular cards enough. They are tough to photograph but are made really well and the 3D and transition effects really look great and make my game feel complete now that the stock yellow pricing card is gone!

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1289-youbentmywookie/04698-stern-jurassic-park-lenticular-apron-cards

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I'd pickup some plumber washers and put them under the posts to stop it from spreading.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DANCO-100-Piece-Assorted-Flat-Washer-Set-34441/100145028

What's the biggest hurry-up base value that's possible? I had 12+ million once but of course I couldn't do much with it. 298 Million is a great MB. I think my high is about half of that.

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I own both (Premium JP and LE TWD) and they are my 2 favorite Stern games. I'd give the edge to TWD just because Lyman's code is an absolute masterpiece and the ball times are less than JP which gets me pushing the start button more often. Jurassic park is an amazing game too though.. you can't go wrong with either.

I believe the latest movie code is version 1.05 which isn't compatible with IC.

We aren't going to get movie code from Stern. More than likely this will just be a new art package/trim level for the game. I wonder if they brought Johnny Crap back to do it, or maybe we'll see Zombie Yeti's artwork on a JP pin?

Is it a translite or a backglass?

Does anyone have an idea of when the new code update will be live? I just checked from my game and it doesn't appear to be yet.

Did we ever get any confirmation on who did the art package on the 30th Anniversary edition? I think it looks fantastic, just odd that Stern isn't promoting whoever the artist is.

I think FF is in a league of its own when it comes to display/ custom animations but JP I think holds its own compared to everything else Stern has released in the LCD era. At the time it came put it looked leaps and bounds better than Maiden and games that came before it. I think it probably has the best custom animation and display ui work of all of the Elwin titles. Godzilla is also good but most of it is old video footage which makes it look old. I don't think JP looks any more outdated than more current games like Bond or RUSH.

Thanks! That does make sense as the art style does look similar to the other models. I wasn't ever a big fan of the Pro or LE cabinet art packages. The art is well drawn but didn't really capture the essence or feel of the movie. I think this is the best art package yet with second place going to the Premium. Hope that someone makes a translite version of the backglass as I would love to stick one in my Premium.

If I had a 30th edition I'd be really tempted to buy a left side Premium decal and make it the ultimate edition with the Raptors in the Kitchen art to go along with the great art on the right side.

Make sure that the post beneath the upper right flipper is in tight. On early JP games this was a problem and there was often playfield wear around this post.

No problems running 1.10 on my June 2020 Premium that has Home team installed (no IC scanner). I love the movie code but can't see rolling back because of the features and code that would be missing.

I really like the Nedry save, having lit outlanes as a Chaos award, improved Virus attack, as well as all the new callouts. I haven't even tried the Co-op or team modes yet. My favorite Stern game just got better!

I'm really digging the trim color. More of a copper orange then red. Picture is courtesy of GAP.

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