I purchased the same handful of PBL stops, and have them sitting in a bag waiting for the need to arise. I have <50 games on my JP and plan to swap only when the flipper freaks out. (I am trying not to tinker under the playfield too often).

No I’m speaking form experience

I replaced the stock fan with the low noise one. Does anyone know if you can manually test the fan? I looked in diagnostics and couldn’t find it. I just want to make sure it’s working properly since it hasn’t turned on yet after 10 min

Novus 1 will be about as effective as Windex, and I've had no issue with Naptha damaging or discoloring the ramps on JP. Note that you must use a very well ventilated area for Naptha, and while it does an amazing low scrubbing effort to remove pencil lines and dirt from rubber, it will take off playfield wax just as easy.

Why not just simply put a piece of mylar on it

You’ve got wear on the right side

There is no control logic between the CPU node and the power supply. That means the power supply has no integration with any type of settings menu. This is very common when a generic power supply is used with a computer (the CPU node board in this case). You can confirm this by looking at the connections... just heavy guage power wires. (You would see at least one small gauge control wire connecting the supply to the rest of the system)

Like many folks getting NIB machines, I didn't remember that protectors were a good thing until the machine arrived. When the box was still sitting on my doorstep, I dropped Cliffy a note to get some steel shipped, but while I was waiting for them to arrive, I unboxed the machine and then immediately I turned the trough coil down to 195 and then PUT 3 layers of BLUE PAINTERS TAPE (LOL) in the lane exactly where you see that wear! It worked great until the protectors arrived... and made cliff laugh when I told him about the short-term solution.

Who cares?
It looks fine, its a pinball machine.
I've never walked away from a deal do to shooter lane wear...

I agree, but some people do. If you buy a NIB game it’s nice to know that putting something there will prevent wear.

Did you have a hard time installing the cliffys? I have a set but gave up when I realized I had two hammer out those two screws. Were they a pain in the but? Did they tear clear when you hammered them out?

I have installed these before without removing those. They seem fine

For sure, I put a protector on mine as well but I just don't think his looks bad or would bring down his resale value at all.
Anywhere else on the playfield I'd be wary of the clear being worn through but IMO shooter wear is not really a factor and is not that hard to repair if it bugs someone, that being said it doesn't hurt to protect it lol.
People nit pick these things like they are timeless art pieces and its silly to me, by nature its kind of a violent game.
Play the funk out of them, just do regular maintenance and they will be fine.

really? They seem to have countersunk holes so it wouldn’t sit flush without removing the screws

I used Cliffy’s lane protector on the right rail side and I used PBL’s protector under the apron near the trough For that exact reason that the countersunk screw under the apron was pretty solid and I did not want to take a hammer to my Playfield

Check out the latest video from George Gomez on the Spike system. He also mentioned the loud fan. Very nice and explaining video.

I just buy to Cliff the complete set of protectors, you know if are any instructions for install it? It's my first pinball and i think will be very difficult to install for me.

Regards!!!

Jose A.

I just received my side armor in the mail and was surprised the red behind the TRex is a mirrored finish. It doesn’t look better or worse than I thought, just different from what I was expecting. From a straight on picture it looks flat red.

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How easy would it be to disassemble for powder coating? How is the inner lining attached? Will it get damaged if you remove it?

I think it’ll pop right out. I didn’t try to take it out, so there may be some adhesive on the inside edges. The TRex cut out moves freely from the backing though. So anything that may get damaged would be would be hidden.

I put Titan rubbers on my game and I think it has made my game much harder to shoot. The slings seem especially active now and controlling the ball is a struggle. The ball used to come out of the right orbit and get kicked to my left flipper, now it is getting kicked to the left sling? Does anyone else think this game plays terrible with titan rubbers?

I can't speak to JP as I don't have my pin yet, but I've heard this same argument in other forums for pins I own. Personally, I love Titans on all my games, and one of the first mods I do. I will say that I always go with the thin flipper rings as the thick ones are too bouncy for me. I find the thin ones offer much better control (they have a completely different feel).

Not sure how long you've had them, but when you get a few games on them they do seem to settle down a little. For me one of the biggest benefits of Titans (or other silicon rings) is that they don't degrade and leave residue all over the playfield.

Also, sometimes for slings you need to go with a slightly larger or smaller size than what the rubber ones are. With different stretch comes different performance. Can be somewhat of a pain on newer games to figure out what sizes are best for how you want the game to play if nobody else has already done the work to compare them.

That is also the reason why I replaced my rubbers was because of the black residue, but I didn’t think gameplay would change that much as I’ve changed to titans on all my 11 games. I don’t find any of my other games are affected negatively. What are my alternatives, I don’t want to go back to the black ones.

I use the clear silicone rubbers from pinball life. They come in a container of sizes all for $40. I rerubbered about 3 machines per container. I like the way these play.

I don’t have any issues with Titans.

I am going to try adjusting the switches, I will report back with results.

I don’t have any issue with titans on any of my other games, I feel this game needs to be played in a more controlled way, and Titans are too crazy.

Wondering if anyone has installed BriteCaps EVO Pop Bumper Lights on their Stern JP pops (https://www.pinballlife.com/britecaps-evo-pop-bumper-lighting.html)? I really like these and have them on my other games. If so, which color did you go with (I'm thinking the orange look best with the OEM amber caps)?

For those not familiar, these include the following:
- Underside lighting (cool white)
- Top side outer ring lighting (the top outer ring and underside lighting have a singular brightness control)
- Top side inner ring lighting (these can be set to always on or, what I prefer, they can be set to flash based upon vibration - e.g. when the bumper is tripped)

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FYI, BrightMods BriteCaps EVO Pop Bumper lighting will not work in these games.

New pro owner here. Are air balls common? I routinely get balls getting on top of the plastics on the left side. Ball also kicks up in the back and often doesn't make a clean loop. Game came to me with plastic protector over pf. I'm wondering if that is the problem since the ball rides a bit higher on pf.

The spinner shot on mine almost never goes all the way around. I dont think that is from the playfield protector.

Try adjusting your flipper power down in the game settings. I don't think any of mine are at factory settings. Also, if you haven't done it already, set your game up for 7 degrees. The designer has chimed in here several times that he designed it for that pitch. Do that prior to adjusting flipper strength.

Upper flipper does seem pretty strong. Might try a lower power on that but seems like the lower flippers need a good kick to make the ramp shots. I will try a higher pitch as well. It's also hard to get the launch to make it around the heli pad ramp. Previous owner already titled the ramp fork to the right and looks like launchers hit ball squarely. Like to get this game playing smoothly but that seems to be a tough task. Still a great game, though.

Has anyone ordered the JADA 1:43 Jeep on eBay that ships from china? I’m sure its a knockoff, but I have not been able to find one other than that. Just wondering if its decent for a replacement truck or if I should keep searching for a authentic one.

Sure have. Definitely not a knock-off, just straight from the actual production source instead. It's legit and would recommend.

I am considering doing this to take mine upstairs (just to lighten things some). Was wondering what all is involved to remove the backbox?

Perfect! Thanks for the reply!

It's been out for a year, but I just came across this JP short:

A few hinge bolts and cat6 cables, it's the easiest to remove a head as it's ever been. What a pain it was back in the Williams/Bally days with all those darn connections to remove and remember what went where. If you want an idea, just take out your translite, fold your display down, and look at what travels from the head to the cab. That's all it is.

worth what it cost, just did another run. waiting on mine now.

I adjusted the leaf switches on the slings and I feel the game has calmed down a bit, thanks for the advice!

I bought one on September 20 and according to the tracking number, it is at my local post office. Should get it today or tomorrow I guess. Original estimated delivery date was October 27 to November 17. So it will be here way ahead if schedule. The communication from the seller was awesome. I got it from "lemontree1168".

So is it best to disconnect everything in the backbox or in the cabinet (by your photo it looks like you did it in the backbox)?

I'd say backbox so they drop into the cabinet. This way you don't have long cables dangling out of the backbox when you're moving it. I don't think it matters, otherwise.

I have played with the upper flipper strength, 240 works best for me.

My jeep is sticking.

Is this an ok lubricant to use?

https://www.amazon.ca/Super-Lube-56204-Silicone-Lubricant/dp/B07C3CZ9CL/ref=mp_s_a_1_3

Thanks!