Man, if I had a nickel every time I got some ass, because I was showing some mad skills at playing JP (or any pinball for that matter), I would be ..............................in the same situation I am now because I wouldn't be a nickel richer.

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Ha! Me too, but I always wanted to look good just in case

actually it's 4, the one on the left is a newer sega...

you gotta keep a close eye on that Justin character : )

Money ready for update.

This is the reason I'm keeping my JP. Can't wait to install and enjoy my "new" game.

Chad is it possible to implement an algorithm that approximates the boundaries of the T-Rex left/right mechanism? By the way Data East has talked about the crucial adjustments of the boundary switches, it appears that there was no timing code to approximate when to stop the motor if a boundary switch fails. When a switch fails it usually stops registering. The CPU can theoretically use timing data to determine how long it takes the motor to travel to either side and in turn use timing to stop T-Rex instead of switch inputs.

Data East has their T-Rex diagnostics test when the game is turned on. Does anything suggest that the CPU collects timing data during this test to compensate for a bad boundary switch? I just dropped a new $100 gearbox in my game and it's going straight to route. It would really suck to damage the mech if a silly boundary switch fails and the mech slams against the metal guide because the game doesn't know when to stop.

Not Chad, but I doubt this can be done just because of the size it would take.

Having said that, for route, personally, I'd turn off dino side to side movement. He'll still go up and down, and you won't potentially run that gearbox into the ground.

Hmm.... it would be interesting to see if you can fit a "if it runs for 4 seconds OR hits the limit switch" I wonder how much space that would actually use up.

For home I'd turn it off too. The side to side movement is way too slow and just kills the action.

just picked up a JP yesterday and i'm super excited for what Chad is doing. Your work is greatly appreciated.

Here's something I came across the other day that I hadn't noticed before. If the Boat Dock is lit and then shot, and that happens to collect the Spitters, AND this is prior to the first Tri-Ball, then only ONE of the Spitters lights turns off. This makes no sense prior to the first Tri-Ball when physically hitting any ONE of the Spitter targets collects them ALL. So, shouldn't collecting Spitters via the Boat Dock (before the first Tri-Ball) also collect them ALL?

@ ikrananka
One Spitter collects all to the first Tri-ball starts, so yes it's already the case doesn't it?

@ ChadH
Is the game now launching a new ball when outlane switch closed in Ball Save time?

...is Boat Dock collect all multiple targets (Spitters or Herrerasaurus or Brachiosaurus / near the bumper) to the first Tri-ball starts?

It is the case when hitting the spitter targets for the first tri-ball but NOT when collecting spitters via the boat dock.

I think the DE / Sega games from that time added more Ball Save time when you hit the outlines

Yeah but it slows the game down.

Not sure if this was requested yet or not. But for those of us who have not gotten around to tweaking the pops (use Williams spoons and springs), can the code be changed so we can reduce the number of pop hits it takes to complete Electric Fence mode? As much as I love to see Timmy fry...I've never been able to beat that mode, and I've had the pin for MANY years.

Bob C

I've never adjusted my pops (other than cleaning and setting the switch gap) and have managed to complete electric fences on many occasions (and also failing many times). Not bragging, just saying that on my machine it is hit and miss but can and is achieved fairly regularly.

I actually just did it for the 1st time In 10 year LOL!

But I'm probably not as good as you are...

I've done it a few times...the tough part is getting the ball IN the pops. The only guaranteed way is with the upper flipper through the one way gate. Then, hope you get enough hits. You can get in through the bottom but that shot tends to not get many pop hits before coming back out.

Congrats :thumbsup:

I tend to go to the pops through the bottom via the left flipper and once it's in there do a lot of nudging. It does generally come back out early but getting it back in there is the key. And don't forget that each time it hits the slingshots that also counts towards the 20 hits required.

The problem with saving Timmy is as already noted, there is no straight shot into the pops that guarantees it stays other than the extremely tough shot through the one way gate. If you can pull that off, you deserve the points

Related, DE lowered the amount of hits already needed to complete the mode to I think 15, so it theoretically is lower even with the not-really-responsive DE pops.

I didn't know the slings counted too!

They do indeed - I assume this was an attempt to make the challenge not quite so hard.

On the other hand, if a ball gets going between the slings in JP, it usually means the end of your ball, especially on the left side

Sidetrack, can anyone tell me an easy way to adjust the switch gaps? I hat trying to bend them.

This works well for me : http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1518

Not sure if this has been mentioned before now, it so, i apologize for the repeat. On my JP, when you get Shoot again, it seems like it takes a long time for the ball to be served to the plunger lane, after the voice call says, "Shoot again" and the DMD display.. Why can't the ball just be served immediately instead of a delay. I am ready to shoot the ball again, but i am always waiting for the ball to be served.
Thanks,

Any anticipated release date. I'd be more than willing to beta test this if interested.

Dude, it's like 4 seconds...they should all be destroyed!

Chad can the shoot again animation and the end of ball bonus screen be skipped by pressing either flipper button?

My dad is looking to pick up a JP next week. I just read through this thread and I am really excited to see these changes coming. I thought the SW update was stellar.

I tried that on my JP but the ball will not serve any faster.

Uhh, bending...that's how you adjust them. Make sure the spoon portion isn't pressing too hard on the finger so that the skirt moves easily. And make sure the contacts are clean (business card wetted with isopropyl alcohol dragged between them.)

Right, which is why I'm asking him if it can be implemented.

I hope to pick up a jp very soon

I hope this is done before I sell my JP!!

Cool, I hope that can be done.

The version of the code can be run on location correct? You considered replay rules/score bumping and credits?

I just saw something odd. Multiball restart was lit and I collected the restart at the raptor pit. Raptor kicker throws it down the middle and the ball rolls up the right outlane and back down, closing the outlane switch twice. As soon as I got the restart it put another ball into play before the first one drained, and immediately multiball ended. Is this a bug or is it because I drained my second ball immediately even though multiball had restarted? Can you please implement a grace period for situations like these as not to waste a multiball restart collected from the raptor pit?

That is a correct raptor pit multi all restart sequence, not a bug. If you want the safe shot, you have to hit the t-rex. Otherwise it acts as a ball save if it drains from the pit.

Right, but the ball wasn't saved and multiball terminated immediately.

Chad - awesome work so far! Too bad you can't add new audio but at least you found a hidden clip.

Can I ask when you're expecting this new code to be finished?

No, that's correct.

There is no ball save on Raptor Pit in multiball. The *instant* that you trip Raptor Pit to restart multiball, you no longer have a ball save. If the Raptor Pit fires the ball immediately into the drain, multiball is over. Unlike the start of regular multiball, there is no ball save at all for a ball that is lost because you already had that at the start of the first multiball.

T-Rex is the safe, although harder to hit, multiball restart location.

The game seems to have inconsistent multiball ball saver timers / systems for all multiballs

^ Could you explain further?

As far as I know, the ball saver is...

Triball -> Standard ball saver time after final ball is fired into play
CHAOS -> Standard ball saver time once multiball mode is started
Raptors -> Standard ball saver time after second ball is fired into play

None of them seem to change game to game to me?

Do all multiball restarts forfeit your ball save?

Well like the other ones they may need to be a little longer

Still super excited for this code upgrade.

Too bad I won't be able to play the new code on my machine as I have recently sold my JP to make room for a new one. I'll miss JP but not really that much.