Thanks for the replies. This game was like this when i first acquired it. I did clean the start coil and check gaps on it already. I have manually actuated the player unit. It moves like it should. I can go through and set it on any player at any ball manually but that is where it will stay. I will clean it probably monday. If that don't work i guess i will order the schematics. I have manually manipulated the game to game over. When i go to start a game with what gottlieb calls the replay button. The start up sequence does in order like it is suppose to the point with the start relay pulled in the score motor should trigger the secondary start relay. The score motor does not trigger the secondary start relay. Here is first part of start up sequence. It happens through number 4. Number 5 does not happen. That is why i was thinking the first problem that needs to be fixed is a switch on score motor. Then go from there once i have it where it will do a complete start up sequence. I was think getting start up sequence working might fix the rest. was hoping someone might know what switch on the motor i need to look at. Oh yeah this is a 72 model. The ax/bx relay did not come into play until 75 from what i have read. I will look at it a little more monday and if not resolved quickly i will order schematics.
I HAVE MANUALLY PUT THE GAME IN GAME OVER BEFORE I TRY THIS
1.Inserting a coin or pressing the coin door start button (Gottlieb calls this the "replay" button) activates the "S" (start) relay. The start relay will lock on from its own switch and a score motor switch.
2. The "S" relay will energize the main hold relay to illuminate the game (if this is the first game after power-on).
3. The "S" relay will start the score motor running.
4. The "S" relay and the score motor increment the total play meter.
5. The "SB" relay (the secondary start relay) is activated through the score motor. The "SB" relay energizes the reset relays ("Z1" and "Z2"). If a single or two player game, there may be only a "Z" relay.