Jukebox owners & collectors

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Jukebox owners & collectors


By merccat

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#1 2 years ago

I personally think a good juke full of great tunes is something every pinball room should have. I'm curious as to how many pinball collectors also have at least one Jukebox and do you also dabble in Jukebox restoration.

My jukebox collection happens to currently be larger than my pin collection (gotta rectify that)... I have (in order that we play them):
- Wurlitzer 3000
- NSM Nalstaga bubbler
- NSM Digital Thunder Wall mount
- Rockola cybersonic under counter and wallboxes.
- Seeburg bubber (piece of garbage I got just for the cabinet)

Any restoration horror stories? I recently brought a Seeburg Q160 back from the grave but there were so many plain scary things in there (speaker wires from the amp output to an electrical plug, etc) not to mention the nasty grime of spilled beer and cigarette ash that builds up lol.

How about before/after photos if you have restored something?

#2 2 years ago

I've done several bottom up restores on Seeburg Jukes. I love bringing them back to their former glory and the sound is unmatched.

Today I have the following in my Juke collection:

Seeburg 100R best sounding 45 juke ever made

Seeburg AY160 just like the looks of this one and the is really nice

Seeburg SMC3 Prelude this is a HUO beautiful jukebox that I purchased from the widow of a former Seeburg employee. Interestly enough no tags or serial numbers anywhere

Seeburg SX100 A very cool looking juke box

Wurlitzer 2304 great looking Jukebox currently in queue for restoration

Rockola Lyric CD wall mount jukebox this juke has an exposed mech and is truely the best CD juke for a man cave

Rockola HUO Fireball CD floor model what can I say I just love the design of these unique Rockolas

I also have several Seeburg and Rockola wall boxes for the jukeboxes

Almost forgot my HUO Rowe Storm wall mount jukebox

I like jukeboxes

#3 2 years ago

I have a Wurlitzer 2700 loaded with 100 records from the 80's. Everyone loves the juke!

#4 2 years ago

Dang Pintopia, nice collection! The Seeburg's do sound great stock, the Q160 had a really nice sound once finished.

It still couldn't touch the sound of my Wurlitzer 3000 though but its nowhere near stock. I modified the tone arm to accept a modern magnetic cartdridge and installed a rack mounted pre-amp inside that feeds the internal amp as well as external amplified speakers. The result is better than CD clarity on a good record.

Here is the seeburg before and after.

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#5 2 years ago

Someone had to ask! Just like merccat, my jukebox collection is larger than my pin collection. I started in jukeboxes back in 1984 (see my pinside story). All are complete working originals, a few a fully restored.

Seeburg
B
C
V200 (fully restored)
161
222
Q100 (fully restored)
SS160
SPS2 (fully restored)
VMC1 (rare)
AMS1 (rare)
BMS1000 (fully restored)
200 LU-1
200C-1

Rockola
1448
1464
1468
R-91 (CD)

Rowe/AMi
H-200
I-100
Continental 2
MM-1 (with a Phonovue)

Wurlitzer
2100
Tele-Disc (very rare)

United
UP-C

NSM
Firebird (CD)

Ristaucrat
S-45

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#6 2 years ago
Quoted from merccat:

...Seeburg bubber (piece of garbage I got just for the cabinet

What are you gonna do with the cabinet?

#7 2 years ago

Toucanf16, which one sounds the best? Does one brand sound better than the others?

#8 2 years ago
Quoted from Toucanf16:

What are you gonna do with the cabinet?

Well since its a standard bubbler cabinet, I'm looking for donor guts from something with a garbage cabinet. At first I was going to try a Rockola mech (thus the under counter jukebox) but then I realized why Rockola changed the door design (to fit the mech). So it looks like my best bet is going to be an NSM jukebox. I've come to really like their CD mechs as they are fast and compact.

The Seeburg mech is not an option. I actually have all the parts but its such a garbage mech with a garbage board that it just makes you kind of ill. If anyone is curious I can take photos. The board itself works sometimes but errors out with a timer issue, I've replaced the timing chips and the so it's probably elsewhere. They used a standard Phillips commercial player so thats alright but their changer mech is the slowest on earth but thats not the worst part... The wierdest part of the setup is the fact that they used an off the shelf cheapo reciever (yeah Am/fm, tape, Cd) to run power to the system switched via the recievers switched ac outlet and hacked in a switch to CD (with option to switch to FM if no disk playing).

It's all very clever if it were a home hack job but bearing the Seeburg name and sold as a commercial machine it was just sad.

#9 2 years ago

Wow toucan that little mini Rockola is about the coolest CD jukebox ever! Love the great 45 players. Truely works of art!

#10 2 years ago

I have been restoring my Seeburg 100r for about 2 years. New paneling, speaker cloth, recapped the amp, found a nice red head cartridge and the .7 Mil stereo compatible styli. It seems noiser (whooshing sound?) than I remember. Maybe this normal? Not the most scientific way to share the audio, but what do you gents think? Here's the end a record with the sound level fading out then back up so you can hear the extra noise.

#11 2 years ago

I hear the woosh and that doesn't sound right to me.

I think i can also hear the cardridge picking up some noise from the motor but thats way under the woosh sound.

I'm assuming you tested or replaced the tubes?

Does that amp have the auto leveling feature? Since the woosh comes in at queter parts it might be that circuit causing it (if it has it).

#12 2 years ago

Magnetic cartridge installed in my 3000. I always meant to go back and clean up the mounting plate so it isn't noticable but just haven't gotten to that yet since were always listening to it lol.

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#13 2 years ago

This is my Seeburg Vogue II... great juke with great sound! I restored it last year but now it has a problem with mechanics...
It doesn't accept any selections. I mean, as soon as it's powered on, it starts to play ANY record, one by one in sequence, without stops.
I checked and tested the grey and black boxes, also the "brain" in another friend's juke (Seeburg Sunstar), and they are 100% functioning! So... do you have any suggestions where I can check to solve my problem?

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#14 2 years ago

Bought this Seeburg 222, a few month ago. really adds to the total game room experience in my opinion.

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#15 2 years ago
Quoted from KLR2014:

Bought this Seeburg 222, a few month ago. really adds to the total game room experience in my opinion.

All the 50s stuff is cool. But I sure love me some 222! (The 161 is a close second!)

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from 64bsstp:

Toucanf16, which one sounds the best? Does one brand sound better than the others?

Hard to say. It's hard to beat the sound on a Seeburg R. But, honestly, they all have their own special sound. You can't go wrong with any of the 70s Seeburgs, my SPS2 sound fantastic!

#17 2 years ago
Quoted from merccat:

I hear the woosh and that doesn't sound right to me.
I think i can also hear the cardridge picking up some noise from the motor but thats way under the woosh sound.
I'm assuming you tested or replaced the tubes?
Does that amp have the auto leveling feature? Since the woosh comes in at queter parts it might be that circuit causing it (if it has it).

Yes, it has Auto volume control. But I've even yanked the tube that controls it and it's about the same.
Tubes were tested and replaced as needed.

#18 2 years ago
Quoted from catboxer:

Yes, it has Auto volume control. But I've even yanked the tube that controls it and it's about the same.
Tubes were tested and replaced as needed.

Could it be motor hum? Have you replaced the rubber motor coupler, motor support, and motor mounts?

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#19 2 years ago

Nice jukes, everybody.

I have one. I'm not really a 'juke' person - hence why I only have one - but I have/had to have one with my games. I usually always have it playing some records as I'm working or playing my games. I'm a Rowe/AMI guy myself; I can take apart a 1100 Mech with my eyes closed, and on watching one operate, i can tell you what it's not doing right.

This came from having an MM-6 in my basement when I was a kid, when my dad had two of them, and game me one to take apart. That specific one is long gone, but I picked up another one a couple years ago. While the 50's and 60's machines and art-deco are fantastic, to me they're far too pretty and expensive to make it worth it to me. (I want the music, don't need the fancy-looking high-end restored game-room vibe.) Since buying this one, I've picked up three more 1100-based mech jukes - and across the 4 of them, spent only $450, total. (I parted the others out, saved what I knew I would need, sold or recycled the other parts, and burnt the cabinets.)

I'm also into the various options that Rowe AMI had - I have two wallboxes that will be connected up to my juke (as soon as I get stepper working), as well as a money meter and a dollar bill validator from the late '60s. I do NOT have the aforementioned PhonoVue - would be interested in seeing how it works, but it's too large for me to have one.

On mine, I also got rid of the florescent bulbs - as they do horrible work to plastics. So the only thing that's ''upgraded'' is the lighting with LEDs. I like how it came out, and in the door have manually color changeable strip to light up the titlestrips.

(And yes, I know I'm missing some strips..)

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#20 2 years ago
Quoted from Toucanf16:

Could it be motor hum? Have you replaced the rubber motor coupler, motor support, and motor mounts?

Hm, now that I have not done. I only removed the clutch and cleaned/lubricate it. I will have to find these rubber parts in the service manual and locate the parts online.

#21 2 years ago

I've been looking for a Seeburg wallbox for a while now to convert to stand alone operation with a RPi inside but it seems the prices on these are really high now.

And shipping is a killer.

#22 2 years ago

Yeah for some of the wallbox prices you could get a whole jukebox (unrestored that is), but I guess those are much more popular being that they can fit almost anywhere.

#23 2 years ago
Quoted from merccat:

I personally think a good juke full of great tunes is something every pinball room should have. I'm curious as to how many pinball collectors also have at least one Jukebox and do you also dabble in Jukebox restoration.
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I currently have an NSM Gem Fire wall hanging.

Also have an NSM Cosmic Burst wall hanging that simply needs the Pro Player rebuilt if anyone is interested. Also comes with an extra parts cabinet.

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#24 2 years ago
Quoted from Theonlylilo:

This is my Seeburg Vogue II... great juke with great sound! I restored it last year but now it has a problem with mechanics...
It doesn't accept any selections. I mean, as soon as it's powered on, it starts to play ANY record, one by one in sequence, without stops.
I checked and tested the grey and black boxes, also the "brain" in another friend's juke (Seeburg Sunstar), and they are 100% functioning! So... do you have any suggestions where I can check to solve my problem?

Internally that unit still has the moving player with a horizontal rack right?

From the Q160 i worked on, Basically the carriage motor goes into seach mode whenever the mechanical switch in the control box is on (it has two coils, a reset and a stepper so that when reset it will run until the stepper fires twice opening the circut). If it always runs right away I would first check that and see what is happening there. It is mechanical so could be gummed up, shorted or a coil could be bad.

As far as selecting every record i believe that is triggered by a signal from the one tube on the control unit (can't think of its name) but it basically detects a polarity change from the memory unit being scanned by the carriage and sends a pulse to a coil there which closes a switch triggering the record retrieval. Usually if this fails no record will be picked up so I would start by checking the pickup coil on the carriage and make sure all the leaf switches there are in proper adjustment.

#25 2 years ago

Oh, and sorry if I'm wrong here but doesn't the carriage run based on a relay on the carriage as well? If your switch in the controller is working normally but the carriage is still running when the switch is open the run relay on the carriage may need to be looked at.

Sorry I'm not more specific, its been a couple years since I last worked on a seeburg and I don't have the manuals in front of me.

#26 2 years ago

I've had my 1947 Seeburg Symphonola 147 "Trashcan" for about 3 years now and love it! The box is very original - down to the coin mech, selection mech, wiring etc. and it even has all of its original paper tags still intact. The two wrap around side plastics are reproductions since the originals were notorious for shrinking, warping, and cracking from the heat over time, but the dome is still original. The wooden cabinet is in overall nice shape with the exception of a few nicks and scratches here and there. It just needed a thorough cleaning when I brought it home.

It still sounds beautiful and although the fact it plays 78s (that have to be manually flipped) is usually a turnoff to a lot of people, I love playing the early rock and roll records I've been able to find.

While it's not as "functional" as boxes from the 50's on, there's nothing quite like the styling from the 30's-40's.

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#27 2 years ago
Quoted from merccat:

I personally think a good juke full of great tunes is something every pinball room should have.

I totally agree. I have a seeburg 60 disc that I converted to an mp3 hard drive system. Now, I can have 100 folders (00-99) with 100 songs in each folder! That's 10k songs instead of the normal 120 +/-.

I have a 4 TB external HD filled with 700,000 songs. I am in the process of filling the jukeboxes HD with the billboard top 100 from 1959 to present. A huge undertaking since each folder and each song has to be renamed. Otherwise, the jukebox won't recognize the file as a song and play it.

When on background play (random play), you never know what decade song will play next. It's really fun. I connected the speaker outputs to a pair of outdoor speakers by the pool so whatever's playing inside, is also playing outside.

I also have a rowe ami 100cd that was owned by chipper jones of the atlanta braves. It is mint condition and filled with 100 CDs of mostly greatest hits from the 60's - 00's.

Jukeboxes are fun~!~

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#28 2 years ago
Quoted from KLR2014:

Bought this Seeburg 222, a few month ago. really adds to the total game room experience in my opinion.

That is a beautiful looking beast!

#29 2 years ago

Back in the late 90s and early 2000s I always owned a Seaburg and a Rowe AMI CD juke. 100% agree that a jukebox of any kind is a must have for a gameroom or bar area. Everyone loves picking out songs to play, and add music videos to the jukebox and it's a surefire hit.

Nowadays, I prefer the modern touchscreen jukeboxes like you'd see on locations, so I built my own systems. In my bar I use a dual screen wall mounted system. But I build and sell kiosk jukes and bartop jukes. 20,000+ songs; 4000+ music videos; karaoke; 300+ touchscreen games (better than a Megatouch for home use).

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#30 2 years ago
Quoted from PoMC:

Back in the late 90s and early 2000s I always owned a Seaburg and a Rowe AMI CD juke. 100% agree that a jukebox of any kind is a must have for a gameroom or bar area. Everyone loves picking out songs to play, and add music videos to the jukebox and it's a surefire hit.
Nowadays, I prefer the modern touchscreen jukeboxes like you'd see on locations, so I built my own systems. In my bar I use a dual screen wall mounted system. But I build and sell kiosk jukes and bartop jukes. 20,000+ songs; 4000+ music videos; karaoke; 300+ touchscreen games (better than a Megatouch for home use).

Nice! I have thought about building a touch juke as well but so far have not been satisfied with any of the touch based juke software out there. What do you find works good?

#31 2 years ago

Oh man. I could drool over these beauties for days. I will have one that plays 45's someday....someday.

#32 2 years ago

BD that 47 Seeburg is prettier than a State Fair Pageant Queen...and that's pretty.

#33 2 years ago
Quoted from KLR2014:

Bought this Seeburg 222, a few month ago. really adds to the total game room experience in my opinion.

That 222 is a bueaty... Nearly got one a while back but the price was too high for me at the time.

Gryszzz... Once you get one that plays 45's then you get to have fun hunting 45's . Something else my Wife and I enjoy doing together. Were always looking for some great titles to change things up or a better copy of something we have that is well worn.

#34 2 years ago

Great to see a thread about jukeboxes. It is not a gameroom unless you have at least one jukebox; it's just a playroom. I have a Wurlitzer 3400 Americana with four wallboxes as my bread and butter workhorse. For the aesthetic touch I have a Seeburg 100R. I grew up in Philly in the 50's so my jukes are stuffed with 50's tunes. Most 45's back then had only one good side. So that is 100 wasted spaces in a 200-play jukebox. I built a little jig where I glue two records together to get two good sides. There is enough room in the Americana's magazine for a 2-ply record. I plan on getting everything chromed on the "R" this fall and restoring that box. Keep the posts coming.

#35 2 years ago

I love jukeboxes and would love to restore an old Wurlitzer or Seeburg, but for now I have restricted myself to building touchscreen jukes. I am getting ready to remodel my basement and build a bar and I will probably end up picking up a 27" Touchscreen to mount to the wall for my jukebox. In my living room I went for a different style though.

There is a local family owned music store that has been in town for about 75 years. The owner restores old radios and has about 50 of them in his store restored. One day I stopped in and told him what I was interested in doing and asked if he had a cabinet I could buy that wasn't going to be restored. He said he had the perfect cab. Was missing everything and he said it was beyond restoration. He gave it to me for free.

I stripped it and applied fresh lacquer. I added a 15" touch screen and a 200w computer speaker setup (sub and 2 speakers). It has about 25k songs on it or about 1600 albums. I have started adding music videos recently and have a large collection of Mastermix (DJ) CDs on it. The bezel around the monitor is temporary and I still haven't made a suitable replacement and the speakers need to be replaced, although they work find for a living room environment. I am considering adding bluetooth to both jukes and running them through a Sonos system in the living room and game room. The jukebox software I use is Etouch.

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#36 2 years ago

here's mine. Plays 45's. Nice and small

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#37 2 years ago

I'm at work or else I would post pics, I have an NSM Firebird wall CD jukebox but instead of using its internal amp I have it hooked up to two Onkyo M-504's amps and two Onkyo P-304 pre-amps. One setup is hooked up to a pair of Klipsch Cornwall's and the other set to a pair Klipsch Chorus with Bob Crite's crossovers and upgrades. Its loud and clear enough to keep up with my Ludwig's !

#38 2 years ago
Quoted from Meph:

I am getting ready to remodel my basement and build a bar and I will probably end up picking up a 27" Touchscreen to mount to the wall for my jukebox.

You may not want to go with a 27" touchscreen and instead go with a 23" touchscreen and a 23" 2nd monitor to display the videos and "now playing" info. That allows people to pick songs on the touchscreen while videos and info are displayed on the 2nd screen.

#39 2 years ago
Quoted from PoMC:

You may not want to go with a 27" touchscreen and instead go with a 23" touchscreen and a 23" 2nd monitor to display the videos and "now playing" info. That allows people to pick songs on the touchscreen while videos and info are displayed on the 2nd screen.

I was planning a secondary monitor for the videos, now playing, and possibly karaoke. Any specific reason you are suggesting a 23"? I'm not committed to anything yet so i'm all ears.

#40 2 years ago

I have a wurlitzer 1400. I did a ton to it and though it sounds great I am still having trouble getting the selector to pick every record.

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#41 2 years ago

I say "Here! Here!" - to the earier post noting that 'every gameroom should have one.'

I posted this earlier in another thread:
1954 Seeburg HF-100R.
A Grade 1 restoration by Zuddie Smith, with all amp board rebuild work by the great Bill Bickers.
1300 watts and 5-speakers of pure joy.
(Thanks to those who also posted pics - some great examples of some awesome jukes!!).

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#42 2 years ago

mines also from 1954. Our models look very similar.

#43 2 years ago
Quoted from Meph:

I was planning a secondary monitor for the videos, now playing, and possibly karaoke. Any specific reason you are suggesting a 23"? I'm not committed to anything yet so i'm all ears.

No, you just mentioned using a 27" monitor and I thought that was going to be your only screen. I'd suggest using a normal 27" screen for the 2nd since that is what will really be displaying all the content. Why waste the $$ on a 27" touchscreen that's only going to be used for selecting songs and videos? 23" just being a nice size for song selection, very inexpensive too.

I have 3 video outs on my juke PC so I can send the Now Playing content to my 42" tv behind the bar when I want to. If you also have a tv in the area, that could be a consideration too.

What juke software are you using? I've been playing around with Touchjams lately since it has widescreen high res skins that look fantastic. But the video playback can be flaky and does weird stuff eventually. Otherwise I've used e-touch for years, but not every version has nice widescreen skins, so I'm still using version 7 and 8 because of the widescreen skins available.

Rick

#44 2 years ago
Quoted from twoplays25c:

I say "Here! Here!" - to the earier post noting that 'every gameroom should have one.'
I posted this earlier in another thread:
1954 Seeburg HF-100R.
A Grade 1 restoration by Zuddie Smith, with all amp board rebuild work by the great Bill Bickers.
1300 watts and 5-speakers of pure joy.
(Thanks to those who also posted pics - some great examples of some awesome jukes!!).

That's a real beauty. My buddy restored one just like it, so I know what it looks like in person.

#45 2 years ago

Here's my homebrew touchscreen juke, built from a 1942 Philco radio cabinet. I'm currently running Kodi multimedia software on Linux Ubuntu. The amp inside is a Luxman R-404 reciever that I've had since I was a teen, and this also is juiced up with an Omnia One that I'm using as an active EQ. The Omnia One is a pro radio processor that is built by the company I work for.

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#46 2 years ago

Here is my 1948 Rock-Ola 1428. We also have a 1958 Seeburg 220 and a 1954 Rock-ola 1446 Comet Fireball

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#47 2 years ago
Quoted from Theonlylilo:

This is my Seeburg Vogue II... great juke with great sound! I restored it last year but now it has a problem with mechanics...
It doesn't accept any selections. I mean, as soon as it's powered on, it starts to play ANY record, one by one in sequence, without stops.
I checked and tested the grey and black boxes, also the "brain" in another friend's juke (Seeburg Sunstar), and they are 100% functioning! So... do you have any suggestions where I can check to solve my problem?

Unplug the single black wire (rca connector) from the power supply. No records should pickup. If it still stops on every record you have a mechanical issue. I believe there is a series of service switches. Check those out as well.

There is a very good Yahoo group for Seeburgs (which I am a member of).

#48 2 years ago
Quoted from merccat:

That 222 is a bueaty... Nearly got one a while back but the price was too high for me at the time.
Gryszzz... Once you get one that plays 45's then you get to have fun hunting 45's . Something else my Wife and I enjoy doing together. Were always looking for some great titles to change things up or a better copy of something we have that is well worn.

yeah looking for singles is great fun. my mother (70) loves to come over and listen. my wife and daughter also help in finding the 45's I want. bought this one in perfect original condition from a guy who restores them. really happy with it.

#49 2 years ago
Quoted from cad-kid:

Unplug the single black wire (rca connector) from the power supply. No records should pickup. If it still stops on every record you have a mechanical issue. I believe there is a series of service switches. Check those out as well.
There is a very good Yahoo group for Seeburgs (which I am a member of).

Good tip! That will defiantly help narrow things down.

I was also remembering how i one time had something similar that would occur whenever any selection was made. A wire had broken in the selector unit (buttons) and had hit ground. The result was that it would trip the memory unit for every single slot.

#50 2 years ago

Some great examples in this thread, keep 'em coming!

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Super Skill Shot Shop
$ 209.99
$ 21.00
$ 79.95
Cabinet - Shooter Rods
Super Skill Shot Shop
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Sparky Pinball
$ 9.99
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Matt's Basement Arcade
$ 15.75
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Tilted Pinball
$ 229.99
Lighting - Led
PinballBulbs
$ 14.95
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
ULEKstore
$ 69.99
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
Lighted Pinball Mods
$ 22.00
Cabinet - Sound/Speakers
ModFather Pinball Mods
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