hi Guys,what to pick and why?
Drac, no contest. I hate the theme but it's just an infinitely more engaging and fun to play table than Dredd.
Quoted from stumptown:Drac, no contest. I hate the theme but it's just an infinitely more engaging and fun to play table than Dredd.
thank you!,But why i tough that dredd was a contender with all the modes and the 4 flippers.
I am on my second BSD. As said here many times, easy to understand difficult to master with the best multi ball stack in pinball . The light show is excellent for its era.
Pinsound board is now a must for BSD along with some speaker upgrades. Makes a Hugh difference.
You can dress the game up with the new alternative trans light and cabinet rad calls.
You get a lot of game it seems for the money from JD. a lot of shots but to me the game got old fast. Gone and forgotten.
System 11’ s such as WW and ES can be keepers as well but I put BSD over both especially now with the pinsound opportunity.
BSD is the pin I have owned the longest, about 5 years. Other pins have come and gone, but this one is "everlasting".
BSD is a pin you either love or hate. Some people complain it's too scary for them, their wife, their husband, their kids, their dog... And that's fine. Not every pin needs to be a happy family theme. I love this pin because it's for a few of us who gravitate towards themes like this.
Also, some of the hate comes from the idea that there is "nothing to do", no modes, etc. I think people forget that not every pinball machine needs to be filled with bells and whistles, toys and modes galore, especially just because it came out in the 90s. Sorry. This was desgined to be a multiball-stacking, strict-shot based machine that came out during a time when other pins leaned more on modes. It commands accuracy. The way to score big points is very narrow and I enjoy the fact that it stands out in that regard.
As far as features go, the main goal IS the feature. The mist multiball is just an added bonus, as far as i'm concerned, as the real highlight of this pin is when you stack the multiballs and the adrenaline rush from those 'thirty million' shots, not to mention spelling DRACULA, timed-shooting wolves, and killing off succubus.
"IT IS THE DEVIL'S CONCUBINE!" ... "I just want to cut off her head and take out her heart." Are you freakin' kidding me? The call outs and DMD animations are some of the best in pinball, but you really have to work to see them. Dark, serious themes are the best. As much as I love the movie, the pinball does more for the theme than the film itself!
Never gets old because the challenge is always there. This is a very humbling pin and if you can't make your shots, well, it's not the pins fault.
In regards to Judge Dredd, I happen to really enjoy that pin. I want to own one eventually, as I think it gives a nice contrast to BSD. Own them both if you can.
I'd was my first pin. Grew up on the comics.
"Gaze into the fist of Dredd!!!"
It was a great first pinball game. A widebody with no pops and some super crazy shots. Software... meh. I wrote an alternate rule sheet somewhere with a wizard mode that battles all4 judges of the apocalypse separately.
BSD has legs, long legs, you may have the game of your life on it, then... BAM! You sink to the bottom of the lake like a stone. While not deep, the rules are broad and allow for multiple strategies in gameplay. But the one to really go for is really hard.
A damn fine game. One of Barry's best from the dmd era.
Quoted from sunnRAT:BSD is the pin I have owned the longest, about 5 years. Other pins have come and gone, but this one is "everlasting".
BSD is a pin you either love or hate. Some people complain it's too scary for them, their wife, their husband, their kids, their dog... And that's fine. Not every pin needs to be a happy family theme. I love this pin because it's for a few of us who gravitate towards themes like this.
Also, some of the hate comes from the idea that there is "nothing to do", no modes, etc. I think people forget that not every pinball machine needs to be filled with bells and whistles, toys and modes galore, especially just because it came out in the 90s. Sorry. This was desgined to be a multiball-stacking, strict-shot based machine that came out during a time when other pins leaned more on modes. It commands accuracy. The way to score big points is very narrow and I enjoy the fact that it stands out in that regard.
As far as features go, the main goal IS the feature. The mist multiball is just an added bonus, as far as i'm concerned, as the real highlight of this pin is when you stack the multiballs and the adrenaline rush from those 'thirty million' shots, not to mention spelling DRACULA, timed-shooting wolves, and killing off succubus.
"IT IS THE DEVIL'S CONCUBINE!" ... "I just want to cut off her head and take out her heart." Are you freakin' kidding me? The call outs and DMD animations are some of the best in pinball, but you really have to work to see them. Dark, serious themes are the best. As much as I love the movie, the pinball does more for the theme than the film itself!
Never gets old because the challenge is always there. This is a very humbling pin and if you can't make your shots, well, it's not the pins fault.
In regards to Judge Dredd, I happen to really enjoy that pin. I want to own one eventually, as I think it gives a nice contrast to BSD. Own them both if you can.
VERY well said sir !
BSD if:
1. You want a challenge.
2. You like dark themes.
3. You like Gary Oldman and Anthony Hopkins
4. You like mixed signals from women (ball lock 1 and 2 they want you, ball 3 they're out to kill!!!).
5. You like getting kicked in the junk and ask for more (metaphorically, unless you really are into that. Whatever.)
6. You suck and want to get better at pinball.
7. When you're done perfecting your hand-eye coordination and aiming, you feel like you could chew a block of lead and spit nails.
JD if:
1. You like comics.
2. You like flippers
3. You like widebody games.
4. You suck at games like BSD.
It really depends on preference. I own a BSD and my friend owned JD. We both prefer BSD as the shots feel much better and are also rewarding. I found that dredd was too easy and the ramps do not feel very satisfying to hit as they are so wide. However, BSD is also a drain monster so if you don't like short ball times I'd go for Dredd
Quoted from Caucasian2Step:I'd was my first pin. Grew up on the comics.
"Gaze into the fist of Dredd!!!"
It was a great first pinball game. A widebody with no pops and some super crazy shots. Software... meh. I wrote an alternate rule sheet somewhere with a wizard mode that battles all4 judges of the apocalypse separately.
BSD has legs, long legs, you may have the game of your life on it, then... BAM! You sink to the bottom of the lake like a stone. While not deep, the rules are broad and allow for multiple strategies in gameplay. But the one to really go for is really hard.
A damn fine game. One of Barry's best from the dmd era.
Wich one you picked?
Both games are great yet both games are flawed.....but hey man, they beat most of the recent game releases in term of toys and game play for half the price, so no complaints here. If you can afford it buy them both, they're worth the 3k price tag.
Quoted from Metzu:Wich one you picked?
I sold jd a long time ago. Still looking for a bsd.
I own both and would say BSD for the players and JD for the guests/kids/non-pinball people. Supergame feature on JD is a great introduction to pinball even though most newbies can be a little overwhelmed by four flippers. So many different shots and the modes (though too shallow) and call outs are really good.
BSD, though...no game will keep you hitting the start button over and over like this one. The ultimate “just one more game” pin. Much too brutal for non-pinball people to love, though.
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