Getaway: High Speed II, The
Williams, 1992
Judge Dredd
Bally, 1993If you had opportunity to own both of them, but could only choose one, which one would it be? Both are in great shape. Dredd is nicer. Price is about the same on both with Dredd being a little more but it's in better shape. Help me pick one.
Quoted from MnHotRod:If you had opportunity to own both of them, but could only choose one, which one would it be? Both are in great shape. Dredd is nicer. Price is about the same on both with Dredd being a little more but it's in better shape. Help me pick one.
JD for me. I have one. I love games with depth, challenge and a ton going on...especially in a home environment...and that is the text book definition of JD. HS2 isn't a bad game and I like playing it, but there just isn't enough to HS2 to make me want to own one.
I think JD is much more accessible for the casual guest too. You can pick up and play pretty easily. People gravitate to JD more than my other pin, a DH, especially newbies. Plus, it has SuperGame mode, which is like another game within the game.
I'm guessing the maintenance issues on a JD are much more involved and common than on an HS2 though, in case that's a consideration.
I've owned both. JD lasted longer. Strictly on gameplay, there's more going on with JD. Since maintenance was mentioned above, I'd add that I think they're about the same. JD has the crane / dead world. HS2 has the supercharger. Both tend to just work once you've got them working. That was my experience, anyway. Had both for a number years. Neither was a headache.
Bottom line, I had more fun with JD.
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I have owned Judge Dredd, High Speed 2 (and the original High Speed).
Getaway is very approachable and is arguably the best pin based on a car theme. It is also one of the most reliable machines from what two technicians have told me. No plastic ramp to break! It is a great machine for beginner owners and beginner players. The machine has great flow, as you would expect from Steve Ritchie.
Judge Dredd has an incredible amount of hardware content - widebody, ramps, flippers, habitrails. It has been speculated that Stern would never make a machine like this today as it would be too expensive to manufacture. The rule set is deeper and requires mastery of more shots. There are seven shots alone from the upper two flippers.
Both machines go for approximately similar prices, all else equal. You should not have undue difficulty selling either in the future but for different reasons - Getaway because of the popularity in its day, and Judge Dredd because of its perception of value in the pin community.
I still have Judge Dredd, but have not kept Getaway.
Quoted from nosro:We might be in the minority, but I have kept HS and sold HS2. I have no nostalgia for either game.
Yeah the upper flipper ramp shot is the whole beauty of the game for me. Take that away & add a big toy that spins a ball around...just not an even trade for me.
Quoted from LesManley:Looks like MNHotRod zigged when he should have zagged...the HS2 he picked up is already up for sale.
Wow, that was fast to get sick of it.....or the HS2 was cheap enough to flip
LesManley needs to invite me over to play Dredd so I can decide which is a better game. My HS2 is nice but who is to say I didn't find a nicer one? Zig, zag, it's all about timing and mine seems to be off.
So back to the subject. Dredd or HS2 and why. And who has a Dredd so I can get some time in and decide for myself? Thanks for the feedback guys. Keep it coming.
Quoted from aeneas:JD for me.. for some reason I've never liked Getaway much.
This for me too. Lots to do in JD, lots of shots for the upper flippers, superb toy in the deadworld, better than the one trick pony toy in HS2. I just don't get HS2 myself. Fun for sure, but no depth, and no staying power for me, but many love it.
Quoted from MnHotRod:LesManley needs to invite me over to play Dredd so I can decide which is a better game. My HS2 is nice but who is to say I didn't find a nicer one? Zig, zag, it's all about timing and mine seems to be off.
So back to the subject. Dredd or HS2 and why. And who has a Dredd so I can get some time in and decide for myself? Thanks for the feedback guys. Keep it coming.
Finally got the games setup last night where they will be. I have to work out a lock issue with my Deadworld Mod, but you are more than welcome to give it a try when that's fixed.
Glad to hear you're enjoying HS2 now more that the flipper issues are sorted out! I'd definitely spend some time with it before trading it off - I know dealing with issues like that can sour a game for you (I had that experience on JackBot), but it's definitely worth playing the daylights out of before trading.
Quoted from goatdan:I wish I could get into HS2 more. The combination of the rare bugs in ALL Rom revisions (different ones per ROM) is a huge strike against it for me, even though they so very rarely turn up. I'd definitely do JD first, personally.
I find that multiplayer makes these problems crop up more often and with worse consequences in HS2.
There are no significant bugs in JD that anyone has noted, but the software can be very sensitive to opto errors, even more so with the Deadworld mod.
On the whole, both HS2 and JD have weaknesses in the software, but I find HS2 bugs to be more noticeable. JD forces you to fix your machine. HS2 can be more reliable, but has problems even when fully working!
Quoted from nosro:There are no significant bugs in JD that anyone has noted, but the software can be very sensitive to opto errors, even more so with the Deadworld mod.
True, I'll note this though - if you're playing seriously, I think that the Deadworld mod should be disabled anyway. On my machine, I found out that if you make a disconnect before it, the game will realize it didn't divert the ball and the software will compensate. This matters quite a bit, as starting multiball when two balls are already locked by looping the ramp is really quite simple compared to shooting them in and having to regain control of the ball.
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