Judge Dredd
Bally, 1993Quoted from Major-Havoc:Did you take something to the playfield like a magic eraser? These playfields will never have that shine like a good clear coated one has. But you should be able to get a nice sheen if polished right.
No sir. I actually only used Novus and cheese cloth. But I think it sat so long with a layer of dust before I got it.
http://www.autogeek.net/sapphire-prewax-cleaner-840.html
Try this instead of Novus, I have done 12 games with it and it has worked fantastic, you put it on like a wax, let it dry, the wipe it off.. it will dry to a haze.. then a buff, then wax..
Quoted from balboarules:http://www.autogeek.net/sapphire-prewax-cleaner-840.html
Try this instead of Novus, I have done 12 games with it and it has worked fantastic, you put it on like a wax, let it dry, the wipe it off.. it will dry to a haze.. then a buff, then wax..
Thanks I will give it a try. Much appreciated.
Those look like the OLD cables..
Check every connection, make sure there is not one that is a row off, it is easy to put them on and miss a row or two.. also make sure all are in the proper direction.
Quoted from PinballManiac40:Yeah, I think you probably will need new ribbon cables.
Try and reseat then 2 more times. Make sure they are not plugged in one row off.
Just as I mentioned on page 2. New ribbon cables definitely would be helpful if you reseat them and the DMD begins to work.
Can you measure the voltages at the power connector at the DMD and report what you see? I would like to see what the voltages are.
Quoted from PinballManiac40:Just as I mentioned on page 2. New ribbon cables definitely would be helpful if you reseat them and the DMD begins to work.
Can you measure the voltages at the power connector at the DMD and report what you see? I would like to see what the voltages are.
I have a multi meter. Where do I check? And what do I set it at ?
Quoted from Ronnie1114:I'd go for a new set of ribbon cables. Remember, they are 20 years old.
Do you think the dmd needs to be replaced? Or just try the ribbon cables first?
Well, measuring at the pins that the cable plugs into the DMD. May not really need to do anymore.
Ribbon cables....need to be replaced next.
if you're getting the ribbon cables from Great Plains Electronics, might as well get a batch of 15-20 opto transmitters.
New ribbon cables and optos on their way. I also ordered all new coil sleeves , springs, and most of the coils just in case I run across any that are no good. I do still need flipper rebuild kit for all four flippers. I realized the ball shooter on the right side was missing so that needs to be ordered and I need playfield glass and legs. Anyone have any of these items they are looking to sell?
Quoted from balboarules:I thought you were going to order the new cables 2 weeks ago..
I must have forgotten. I was so focused on getting the boards ordered. I'm going to see if I can clean the inside of the ribbon cable connecters for the heck of it tonight. I'm replacing them anyway so it doesn't much matter if it makes them worse right?
i would not use any type of cleaner on the ribbon cable connections.
You can try to reseat it again and maybe it will get better, maybe it will get worse.
I would leave it as is right now and go into switch edge tests and check all the switches that are still connected to make sure those are all working at least.
Here is something else you can do. Remove the DMD out of JD and connect it up into Cue Ball Wizard to see if there are any lines out. I hope not. You only have 2 connectors so that is easy to do. Just make sure you hold the DMD by the edges or you will feel the high voltage.
In case there are lines out, might I suggest a ColorDMD!!!
http://shop.colordmd.com/colordmd-replacement-display-for-judge-dredd-pinball-machine/
I have one installed and just waiting for the color ROM update on Friday.
Quoted from PinballManiac40:Here is something else you can do. Remove the DMD out of JD and connect it up into Cue Ball Wizard to see if there are any lines out. I hope not. You only have 2 connectors so that is easy to do. Just make sure you hold the DMD by the edges or you will feel the high voltage.
In case there are lines out, might I suggest a ColorDMD!!!
http://shop.colordmd.com/colordmd-replacement-display-for-judge-dredd-pinball-machine/
I have one installed and just waiting for the color ROM update on Friday.
I was wondering if I could try that and you just confirmed I can. I will do it.
Also I used the alcohol in the ends of the ribbon cables and then blew them out with the compressor and plugged them all back in. The display actually did get much cleaybut still had some lines going down it.
And yes if I end up needing a new display, I will definitely go for the color one. What the hell at this point might as well spend the extra dough.
Vishay used to fix their displays. They don't do it anymore. Unless you know exactly what's wrong with it, the time and effort to track the problem down combined with the hassle of removing and replacing the glass isn't worth it.
If this is a job Vishay or Rob Anthony wouldn't do (not to say he couldn't), it's not a job for the OP.
viperrwk
Quoted from viperrwk:Vishay used to fix their displays. They don't do it anymore. Unless you know exactly what's wrong with it, the time and effort to track the problem down combined with the hassle of removing and replacing the glass isn't worth it.
If this is a job Vishay or Rob Anthony wouldn't do (not to say he couldn't), it's not a job for the OP.
viperrwk
I figured out where the issue is. WHen I get home later i'll post a few pics of what I think needs fixing. Problem is I'm not sure if this is fixable. Anyway, Mylar arrived today.
Quoted from RampShot11:I figured out where the issue is. WHen I get home later i'll post a few pics of what I think needs fixing. Problem is I'm not sure if this is fixable.
If the pins are broken at the glass (a common failure) it is sometimes possible to repair the board. If you have replacement pins (which are unobtainable unless scrounged off an old board), and depending on where the break is, it's actually pretty easy. If not it takes a little skill and luck.
Quoted from terryb:If the pins are broken at the glass (a common failure) it is sometimes possible to repair the board. If you have replacement pins (which are unobtainable unless scrounged off an old board), and depending on where the break is, it's actually pretty easy. If not it takes a little skill and luck.
I see, thanks for the insight Terry.
That mylar is going to be a bitch to install if you have never done it before.
step 1 make sure playfeild is clean and wipe it down with a 90% rubbing alcohol.
step 2 mix a spray bottle with clean water 2 drops of baby shampoo and a capful of the alcohol.
step 3 spray a good mist on the mylar and apply to playfeild .. the fluid will let you adjust or pull it up if you need too.
step 4 press mylar with soft clean rag to press out any fluid and wipe up any fluid as well.
Any spots in mylar will disappear in a few days and mylar will stay put.
good luck ... dredd is a great game ... love me some super ball
Quoted from jasonp:That mylar is going to be a bitch to install if you have never done it before.
step 1 make sure playfeild is clean and wipe it down with a 90% rubbing alcohol.
step 2 mix a spray bottle with clean water 2 drops of baby shampoo and a capful of the alcohol.
step 3 spray a good mist on the mylar and apply to playfeild .. the fluid will let you adjust or pull it up if you need too.
step 4 press mylar with soft clean rag to press out any fluid and wipe up any fluid as well.
Any spots in mylar will disappear in a few days and mylar will stay put.
good luck ... dredd is a great game ... love me some super ball
Did you install it on your JD?
Yes, that Mylar is not going to be easy, you have a tough road ahead of you. The main area would be easy but it's those other delicate areas like the kick back and upper tunnel. You have to start somewhere and you have it so try it. I think it is overkill for a home machine. Just wax the playfield every few months and it will be fine.
Why mylar a home use game? Most people tend to remove the mylar, if you keep it clean and waxed in a home use environment, it is really not worth the effort.
Quoted from balboarules:Why mylar a home use game? Most people tend to remove the mylar, if you keep it clean and waxed in a home use environment, it is really not worth the effort.
Actually, this Mylar just floats. There is no install. The ball guides , flipper bats, etc. hold it in place. It's pretty impressive how precise they cut this thing to fit. I'll take pics later.
Is it mylar? Or did you get an acrylic playfield overlay? I installed an acrylic overlay on my STTNG with great results. Looks similar to what you have there. BTW, you won't need the DMD board you just bought if you go with the ColorDMD...
Quoted from RampShot11:Actually, this Mylar just floats. There is no install. The ball guides , flipper bats, etc. hold it in place. It's pretty impressive how precise they cut this thing to fit. I'll take pics later.
Is that the one that is called "playfield protector"?
Quoted from ksmmspt:Is it mylar? Or did you get an acrylic playfield overlay? I installed an acrylic overlay on my STTNG with great results. Looks similar to what you have there. BTW, you won't need the DMD board you just bought if you go with the ColorDMD...
I think your right, it's actually called a Playfield protecter.
That good news regarding the dmd board. I can sell it or keep it as a spare for future games.
Thanks for the info.
Quoted from jasonp:raleigh.craigslist.org link
Here you go
Thanks jason but bad news. My ceilings in the basement won't allow me to add a topper. Bummer right? I can barely fit the Hieght of the machines.
Maybe you can still buy it and find a place to mount it in the basement. It would be good to have a topper for resale in the future.
Quoted from PinballManiac40:Maybe you can still buy it and find a place to mount it in the basement. It would be good to have a topper for resale in the future.
I was thinking that too. Wonder if the guy will ship it.
Quoted from RampShot11:I was thinking that too. Wonder if the guy will ship it.
Hell, I'll be asking if he'll ship it for that price or even less.
New reproductions were $125 plus shipping for the shiny gold ones from Illinois Pinball.
I got the new ribbon cables finally, took 11 day's, replaced the old cables and I'm still getting lines down the dmd display. Anyone have any idea why? Thanks.
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