Shh Those were supposed to be kept secrets as they were the next prototype cabinets jpop created!

It's my understanding if a virtual table got made it would be part of visual pinball in general so everyone would have it free, like all of the other tables on there. Nothing specific to our mini virtual pins. They just run visual pinball (if installed) and no real way to have some sort of exclusive for magic girl. Plus drm sucks so if I were personally doing the virtual pin for magic girl it would be free. I have no skills in that so non issue anyways.

I gotta respond to this one. We don't have the proto and I have no clue where it is. As I said it was my understanding they, meaning pintatsia and other folks, wanted a visual pinball. Hence why I said my understanding earlier. I have no skills in making visual pinball anything. Last I heard through the vine it's not even being made into virtual table anymore. I think it was going to take too long and it's shipped back or getting shipped back coming up. Not sure

People are jumping on everyone it seems.

More importantly, whoever makes the visual pinball table doesn't get any monetary benefit. I mean, it's all free stuff given out.

EDit: I took the youtube videos down. Got a PM from someone accusing me of having the game based on me uploading the videos from the show. Yikes. Honestly getting a little nervous since my address is given out frequently for bulb pick ups and wife/baby are home all day.

I'm not sure how we got dragged into this I personally don't have the game or know who has it. My information about the virtual pinball is stuff I heard at the show, just like the videos I posted of gameplay, from the show. Sorry, literally just gave any information I had. Kinda sucks it instantly turned on me into somehow having the game.

In case people super care, I currently have a medieval madness and slugfest. No magic girl.....

In the interest of transparency. Here's some info for everyone I got from being at the show, which I'm sure some is old:

Markmon does work with PinballBulbs. He is also a programmer. I do know Jpop asked him if he was willing to look at the code and perhaps overall state of the game and give his opinion on where he felt the game was at % wise and all of what needed to be done. He agreed, (this never happened fully though as there was obviously no time at the show). It was never markmon's plan to code this game. Mostly because we knew someone else had already been programming it and there was payment issues. Not interested in stepping on anyones toes. Not his place to step in and understood this. I think it was also more to help bill get an understand of how far along the game was.

There is a local guy in Portland/Tualatin(not sure who he is so couldn't tell you) who does virtual pinball tables. At the end of the show it was discussed that it would be cool if it managed to make it down this guy's way to get made into a virtual table so at least the owners could "play" the game at some point. I think this fizzled though as it didn't initially happen and it does need to go back or has already started to go back, not sure what state it is in since the show. I had 12 games of my own we brought to get loaded up. My opinion is this game is basically poison currently so not sure anyone wants to be part of it or have it in there posession....Surely no money can be made from this game unless it starts pooping money...

As far as I know now the game is in the state of getting back to Jpop and as Bill said, he isn't going through with the project.

The game was definitely visually appealing at the show, but in my personal opinion maybe 60%~ complete. Also with that said I always believe it is the last 10-15% that take the longest in any development project like this. So, it was probably still a long ways out. I do know JJP was met with and given the opportunity to help manufacture the pin. That obviously didn't work out, but I have no idea what the details were. Just that they met up and discussed it quite indepth at the show.

I did hear from some of the later on vendors Bill did pay all vendors needed to get any further work done that was needed to get it to the show. I am just the messenger here providing info that people need. This does not mean he paid all past vendors, I;m sure they will attest to that. It is my understanding the art got partially paid for, ramps and a few other items. There were still tons of folks volunteering for game fixes, corrections etc.

I'll post more if I remember anything, but for now that's all I recall of the "inside" info I hear at the show from others or whoever.

Markmon and I are 2 totally separate people.

1. I have absolutely 0 interest in knowing where this game is.

2. I can almost guarantee Markmon is trolling(have you not read half of his other bajillion posts). I sent him a text this morning to gocorrect whatever is needed

I'm sure the game will hopefully get back to Jpop and get auctioned, bankrupted or whatever is needed.

I just get upset and don't appreciate the company and myself being instantly accused of having this game. You are welcome to stop by anytime and check out all of my 2 pins Oh! I also have a skeelball and 2 racers, but unpin related.

No worries, when all the dust settles you will see we don't have it, don't have a virtual pin from it, or anything else.

It's understandable in the end.

It was the secrecy that made this project fun and inviting from the start, but has ultimately killed it in the end for us customers and vendors alike.

I think the shittiest part in the end is all us customers may never see a dime at this point Obviously can't be sure, but I don't expect any money to ever come back. It's so depressing to think some guys are out north of 30k. Jeez if I was fully out that I may be financially wrecked. I suppose I wouldn't be buying in 30k then, but just the thought of it is highly upsetting that it's gone.

It's like John's reach has poisoned us all. Like I mentioned above, we all lost money and that is a tough pill to swallow especially since it wasn't some few hundred bucks, right? Thousands!!>?#@!

All I think is how many pins I could've bought for that(or currently how many diapers lol)

It was definitely a let down seeing magic girl in public as I had thought it was way further along. It felt like it was a most basic mockup of a game you would take to someone like Stern or JJP and super hope they took it on for development, not production, but development as there looked to be a ton to do still. At that point I had a feeling RAZA and AIW were lost causes as I was in on one of those, not MG.

Sucks Jpop is so poisoned at this point because that AIW art yeti posted was just effin killer and is a mega shame it may never be in a finished game.

Looks like markmon confirmed he knows where it is. Again, I personally don't. We don't sit around discussing Magic Girl. We actually live an hour away from each other and I do not make it over to his place often. If I do it's for led kit work.

I fully agree with you by the way. I imagine most folks going forward with lawsuits are not posting about it. I'm guessing they were advised not to. I'm no lawyer, but that seems to be something they always tell you.

I'm just coming from the standpoint of I guess what is there to be obtained that John has? Hopefully enough so people can at least be partially compensated in the end. I just don't know enough of what he has left that can be taken. Idk if wages are garnished later on, no clue how any of that works personally.

It's been said a few times in the rumor mill AIW is the best and most complete of the three games. I have 0 clue, but that was the buzz around the show about AIW being significantly better than Magic Girl. Maybe thats why, but at this point the only safe bet is to take the design for some nominal fee and make it all your own.