Quoted from Aurich:"Hey Bob, did I tell you about my new investment? It's a bit of a longshot, but if I play my cards right I'm going to get that cat-girl bowling pinball I've always dreamed of!"
That's funny.
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Quoted from Astropin:I like to come in here and the Predator threads and just put my feet up and relax.......nothing ever happens in any of them.
Just like watching paint dry.
1 month later
Quoted from rai:Jpop won't even respond to his customers, it's really astonishing. Ice asks me why I'm still involved on this thread, it's because the way John treats his customers and in fact the pinball community as a whole, it's like he is deliberately trying to piss off as many people as possible. I can not understand where his head is, it's certainly not the way to build a company. Pissing off buyers or potential buyers is not a great idea if you want to be a successful buisnessman.
I'll go farther, me as a physician, it's said that the way you treat your patients (ie. Bedside manner) has more to do with patient satisfaction than the actual outcome of a surgery. In other words it's bad enough John is f-en the project up, but he isn't even doing any damage control or calming things down.
Everyday John is getting closer to Kevin (Skitb) territory.
I don't think he's trying to piss anyone off and I don't think he wants to be a successful businessman. He wants to do whatever he feels like doing whenever he chooses to do it.
The only thing I can say about him with any degree of certainty is that he is an absolute flake.
Quoted from iceman44:In honor of the late great Dean Smith, he's gone the four corners stall offense.
Would Dean run the four corners if he were down by 10 with 3 minutes left in the 2nd half?
Quoted from iceman44:Exactly, that shows how dumb he is doesn't it! He's running the four corners and he's down by 30 and doesn't even realize it.
As for another basketball analogy, John is one of those guys that looks great in warmups, all the talent in the world, until game time comes and he shows himself to be a total stiff.
Yep, that's John, a total stiff.
Such a shame.
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:Kaneda is ZidwarePR, ROFL. This is f-ing classic.
The poor kid should really check himself into the nearest mental health center.
1 week later
Quoted from pinstor12:5 refund requests, 5 no responses.
You'll alway bat 1.000 on that request.
1 month later
Quoted from iceman44:John shows ZERO remorse
Still thinks he owes us nothing
I want an explanation and answers from him. Where are the financials and where did our money go
Sue John and the wife personally and then be prepared to hire a forensic accountant.
He'll be remorseful in a hurry.
1 week later
It looks pretty darn nice, no question. However, I am am not putting 10k-15k down and then waiting 4 years for one.
1 week later
Quoted from Aurich:It's not that easy to pierce the veil, corporations are set up for this very reason, to protect personal assets. John maybe screwed up enough that a sharp lawyer can do it. But don't count on it.
Hey, see the non lawyer part, maybe I'm wrong! But that's my educated guess, given what I know and understand. This might be something new for pinball, but it's hardly a new story when it comes to businesses like this
I would be very surprised if piercing the veil in this instance become difficult or problematic.
From what I have read in this thread, Popadiuk and his wife are in for quite a bit of pain and misery and it appears that will provide a great deal of satisfaction to many of the customers.
Quoted from Aurich:Outside my realm of experience, so I won't argue the point. I'm just saying, he set up a corporation, the payments were made to it, and he has plenty of evidence to suggest that he spent the money on what he said he would. He messed up badly, the business failed, and that's that. But it wasn't a scam, not in the traditional sense at least. The dumb sap is apparently still claiming he's gonna find a way to deliver games!
It's obvious to me that he's got some real problems, mentally
I could be dead wrong, but I think when you follow the paper trail provided by the bank records and credit card statements they will show that plenty of the cash was spent on items that had nothing to do with the games which were purchased.
Did Popadiuk's customers agree to pay for the machinery or software used to create these games? I thought they simply agreed to buy a new pinball machine for $16,000.
Quoted from TaylorVA:I'm not a lawyer so I'll just stfu.
More should do the same.
I am not a lawyer, but I was the plaintiff in two cases where my attorney managed to successfully pierce the corporate veil of both LLCs. However, I know that there are many attorney's on Pinside much better versed on the subject than I am.
Quoted from roffels:I don't understand this line of thought. When you go to the grocery store, the markup on the product goes toward employee wages, rent on the building, cash registers, an administrative department, devices to order food, doors to the building, and tools to do the job better. Why would building a pinball machine be any different?
Was Jpop supposed to do this all with his bare hands and ingenuity?
The creation of the grocery store and its infrastructure were not funded by the bag of potatoes and box of Cheerios I bought this morning.
Quoted from flynnibus:Yes it was... the margin on that purchase funded the coffers of the chain to build the next store. The initial store would have been opened with credit or investors... who got paid back by the margins on your bags of chips.
Where the F do you think business' make their money from???</blockquoteYou're lost here. We're not talking about the same thing.
Time for Silicon Valley. Have a good night.
4 weeks later
Quoted from rai:Does it cost anythig close to $100k to buy a couple of ramps and shipping the game to the show?
Apparently, it only does when Popadiuk is part of the equation.
2 months later
I delayed taking the "theft and casualty" loss with John until this year, didn't move the needle on a 350k total tax due bill
Feel better now?
Quoted from roffels:I don't think that was the point he was making. "Sure, call me stupid, but I'm rich and this didn't cost me that much, here's my evidence" was the vibe I got.
Your interpretation was correct.
He got it too, but chose to be cute.
Is that his Range Rover? Is that his wife in the Range Rover photo?
I hope the plaintiffs destroy him.
4 months later
Quoted from hawkmoon:Who is this guy you all are talking about?? is he one of those two idiots in that foto?If one happens to have a talent of some kind,why does that give one license to look like you just stepped outa the sixties,50 lbs overweight and looking like a slob??I've often wondered why guys show up at venues with long dirty hair,obese,stinking of beer,and think it's kool???
You've described the only reasons I didn't give kulek or JPop my money.
3 months later
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Every time I hear JPop and salary in the same post I want to punch something, anything really hard.
His customers gave him money in exchange for a pinball machine. They did not agree to pay his salary.
Any money left over after all games were delivered to customers would have amounted to JPop's salary/profit.
Quoted from flynnibus:Yeah you did... That's what happens when you pay for a product.
You're lost.
I can't even engage you in this bs argument.
Quoted from benheck:Salary had no effect?
90k X 3 = 280k, Bill tells us 900k came in so easily an entire THIRD went up in smoke salary alone.
If you're a startup and paying yourself anything more than "ramen and electricity" you're doing it wrong.
3 weeks later
Quoted from vdojaq:I just cannot understand how John has not been visited by any "personal debt collectors".
Are you certain he hasn't?
1 month later
Quoted from hardware:I agree! I don't believe anyone would take MG instead of a refund at this point.
The game will be nowhere near what the hyped expectation was.
Accept the diluted version of MG or get nothing. I doubt there will be another option.
Refunds will not be issued, nor is this new company obligated to issue refunds.
Quoted from Whysnow:I don't think you understand how the law or the real world works in these situations.
Are you going to sue the new company and its principals?
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:Pictures of these pins or we are really wasting time here.
Where have you been Rip Van Winkle?
4 months later
Quoted from bigd1979:Hey i think i play alot ...just may not know all the rules lol. I usually put on a few hundred plays a month on each pin .... thats around 1k games a month for just me. Not to shabby imo
Even if I were retired I couldn't play that much.
Quoted from vdojaq:Yep, I will give him due credit for the Dog..........but the guy is a BRONY!!!
I would be more worried about the person who knows what a BRONY is.
9 months later
Quoted from guyincognito:Different Strokes would be a great theme!
Watchu Talkin Bout multi-ball
And I'm sure you can get Todd Bridges and Charlotte Rae for voices. They would also allow their images to be used, unlike this POTC nonsense.
4 months later
Quoted from rommy:My testimony was very straightforward and took 5 minutes. I paid, he did not produce, give me money back. In the end that is what the judge agreed to for me. I get all my money back. I am not going to discuss the other claimants settlements, although I will say no one got less than me. Defendant attempted to squeal about more than one issue. For example at the outset he attempted to split the claims into 26 separate small claims (side note - in a VERY BUSY courthouse like Cook County suggesting that increasing the workload by a factor of 26X to a judge does not seem like a smart tactic). In my opinion defense did not present any defense at all. Just procedural shenanigans.
Also personal liability was found, corporate veil pierced. Told ya JPop. If you don't run it like a business you can't use it to hide behind. That is what the Court found.
What about the "He was entitled to take a salary" defense?
Congratulations, I am very happy for you and the other claimants.
3 months later
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