I jump in and catch up this thread time to time.... got to admit, I did not see this latest twist coming. Look forward to seeing a name this weekend, if no name comes this is just frankly unreal.

Hoping for the best for all of you that have $ in.

Tough interview to listen to, there was zero business sense anywhere in that discussion. Depressing.

On with crazy ideas and how to create something out of nothing........

How about someone make a digital version of this game (this should be possible, right.... much easier to make adjustments to the layout....no need to buy materials and worry about that whole building thing), need to finish coding.... hard to say if there is value or

John transfers all IPs into some sort of an an LLC that all the buyers and unpaid suppliers are part of.... that LLC sets up some sort of a deal (maybe it is all back-end royalties on games sold and maybe there some upfront fee (probably not too big though given the kickstarters I saw with pinball arcade) with Zen or the pinball arcade guys, Zen or Pinball Arcade develops and publishes the table.... royalties get paid to LLC who then distributes....

I have no basis for the following math, but just as an example, lets say they get 500,000 downloads and charge $5 bucks a table (a premium to what they typically charge).... thats $2.5MM in Revenue (keep in mind someone has to pay development costs, I'm sure apple/google take a chunk, etc....)... maybe you could get a 20% royalty for providing all the IP, artwork, concept, etc.... ? and still have it be interesting for the developer.

The key to the math would be maximizing the downloads and if you can get a bit of a premium price for it it gives everyone some more room to make money. If nothing else, it would be interesting to have this notorious table be playable, even if only in digital form.

Someone closer to how Pinball Arcade's business model works would need to weigh in on if any of this is possible... definitely possible for them to make the game and make money, just not sure how much money it would generate for the IP owner... (Stern would know given they just inked a deal, of course, Stern is providing finalized games for them to simulate/emulate).

if pinsiders are a good estimate for pinballarcade downloads (or zen), then probably not a ton of $ here, but it would appear that you can make some money in selling digital games as williams and stern have done deals... anyhow a quick call to pinball arcade team would let them explore the option.... maybe it generates a little $...

looking back at the kickstarters, pinball arcade had to raise $100K to make some of their licensed tables commercially viable... so I agree, not big opportunity based on that as well.