Iceman -

Congrats on your purchases! I wish I could afford to be in on any of his games. I talk to John a lot, and he's super nice. Some of my most prized items int he game room came from him. I think he is a brilliant designer, and he himself will tell you that you can have the best design, but if the software isn't there, it will not be good.

I also feel that he never lost the "art" of pinball. His games are stunning, and I expect nothing less from these.

Congrats on being in the loop! I wish I were able to see the things that the buyers get to see.

Chris

For the record - The photos that Rob T posted were also posted by John on Facebook, so I don't think there was any foul there really.

I think the NDA (although I could be TOTALLY wrong) is more for playfield layout, design, toys, etc.

I think if John posts them himself, they are already cleared for release.

Chris

Thank you for the clarification

Not being part of that, I took a guess. Not a bad guess, but still a guess. It's good to know the correct info.

Chris

If you think John does not read the forums, you're wrong.

Just sayin'.

Chris

Is there still a website for the machines?

http://www.zidware.com/welcome.html takes you to the Zidware site, but "pinball games" is not 'clickable'

I am a JPop fan and supporter, but I cna not afford his machines. I just found it odd there were no links any longer. Maybe they have just moved?

Chris

This is what I did. I talk to John a lot actually. Have before he started these endeavors as well. I have no horse in this race, and I will not berate John from behind a keyboard as some seem to want to do. I think you will all be happy in the end. At least I hope you are I do understand the rollercoaster you guys are on though.

It is obvious at this point that he underestimated the entire process, and it has hampered certain things like a time line. I feel bad for him because at this point the torches and pitchforks are on the time line, but if things are rushed they will be on an incomplete game.

In the end it seems like nobody is winning

Chris

after seeing this, I am looking forward to the art on RAZA, even though I am not getting one.

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Not sure why it is rotating the photo. On my computer it is right side up. Sorry.

Chris

Challenge Accepted!

Seriously though,. I think these kind of things keep him going. I know he appreciates them, and I have gotten cool things from him as well in return.

As I have said in the past, I think he is sincere in getting the games built, but definitely was overwhelmed by the task.

Chris

Are you upset? I couldn't tell.

Never mind, I will just ignore. Carry on.

Chris

I hope all can get some satisfactions soon. I am not in as I stated before, but I hate to see people get so worked up. I understand the case though.

All I can do is hope that things come to fruition soon. In my talking to John he does care, but his non-communication with the buyers is defenately concerning. Even a little communication would go a long way. Well, maybe not at this point, but before this.

Last I communicated with John was Saturday, at which time he indicated: "moving ahead...showing the complete MG soon and then RAZA just after" when I said that I hope things are well.

For what that is worth. Hope everyone (including John) can come out of this well.

Chris

From what I have heard in my conversations with John, StevenP is correct. At least from what John has told me.

I can say that I have conveyed the concerns to him personally, for what that is worth. While he seems to think that no news is good news, I tried to explain to him that this is not the case for the owners from my readings. I also explained that no matter how small something may seem, it would be goof to let those in on the project what is being done. Maybe not daily, but a weekly update or something like that. COMMUNICATION is the key here.

Hopefully in a short time, the owners at least will get more information.

Chris

This is EXACTLY what I tried to convey to him the other day. Not sure if it worked though.

Chris

We discussed a bit about "how" he should reveal info. He seemed to think it should be like the Adobe videos. I said that they (the buyers) just wanted information. No need to make a big production, but rather keep those in on the project just that: IN on the project. No reason to take the time to do an elaborate video. Show them on a weekly basis what happened this past week. I also tried to convey the extreme importance of communication to him.

Not sure what, if any effect it had, but I can hope.

Chris

Hadn't thought of that side of it. Was just tossing stuff out there so that the people in might be able to get SOMETHING. I got the impression that he thought what was up on his blog was pretty good, but I also said that some owners said they learned more from the Adobe videos than they had from the blog, which is what started the whole "video" discussion.

Chris

And with color, it comes together

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I think they are really trying to bring pinball up a level (or two). Color makes a difference .

(posted with permission)

Chris

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Yes.

Chris

Nice! Good to see more and more info coming out for you guys!

Hopefully it is something you can share soon.

Chris

I like the sounds based on the short clips. How they tie it all together should be pretty good.

Chris

Is that exactly what he said? I am just asking. Or was it a "flippable" reveal?

This thread had been so quiet, I thought good things were happening on the blog or site that the owners had.

Chris

Watch the movie "Flash of Genius". Good movie, and yes, they tried to screw him, but in the end paid up (after being sued).

Chris

Weren't these videos from the private blog?

Just asking.

Chris

Believe me, I am trying. And I am a virtual nobody in the pinball world, so take that for what it's worth.

Chris

Just out of curiosity - Was the NDA written in Comic Sans?

Chris

So you speak for everyone? Cool.

And you're wrong.

Chris

Did I miss something juicy?

LOL

Chris

I think he meant the 2 "Special when lit" inserts at the outlanes.

Chris

interesting point. If this should fail, I think the resounding question would be "Who would ever preorder for $8K plus ever again?"

Chris

FWIW Jinx was the name of the cat in Pinball Magic. Not that it matters, just found it interesting.

Chris

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Seriously though, I have no dog in the race, but it is interesting to see the photos and videos that have come out since this change. At least things are trying to be done.

Hope all are made whole and these can get made for the people that want one.

Chris

I got in also! Too cool to miss out on!

Chris

ZombieYeti - Did you do this one from RAZA?

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Wow, what a mess. I feel bad now for the people trying yo make things right, Seems like no matter what, they will be the bad guys.

"We want to see a flipping prototype" "why is nothing being revealed?"

So they give you a flipping prototype. Which SEEMED like what people wanted. But apparently it's "not done enough" and "too slow". Not sure what was really expected when you had seen nothing but art for years. We have seen more in a month than we have in 3 years. That is exciting to me, but I don't have any $$ invested. if I could have afforded it, it might have been different.

I am not sure why anyone would want to take this project over at this point, but at least someone has. Can't we give them at least a chance?

Chris

On a completely different note: The Zombie Yeti AIW prints were slated to ship in June. Has anyone gotten theirs yet?

Just wondering.

Thanks!
Chris

Thanks! I saw that on the site he mentioned he was not happy with the first run. Can't wait to get them

Chris

So, did anyone get the AIW prints yet?

I see that it is a run of 100 now (I thought it was just 50 originally). The second 50 went live on June 26th and are again sold out.

Just wondering if anyone had received theirs yet.

Chris

I don't know what you are all looking at, but I went to http://www.johnpopadiuk.com

I wonder if www.johnpopadiuk.com shows up in Google yet.

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Chris

Haiku can be hard
And sometimes they don't make sense
Refrigerator.

Chris

Believing in something from someone that was WELL KNOWN in the pinball world and that was presented in a way that it seemed like it was thought out does not make you stupid.

I don't think anyone thinks that those who lost money are stupid. Unfortunate? Yes, but I would never call you stupid.

Chris

Well.... I don't think you're stupid. How's that?

Chris

Maybe I read this thread too much, because I had the most bizarre dream last night. I dreamed that we were fighting a fire at a warehouse (I am a firefighter, so this makes sense). As the fire was out, we searched the building. At the far end we opened the door and it was Zidware. JPop was there with about 15 interns working on stuff. Nothing of which was pinball related. We talked and he said that all will be sorted out, as he was doing some artsy fartsy craft project.

At the end of the dream a disassembled High Speed was rolled in by the UPS guy. John looked at it and said the foam core would be amazing.

Then I woke up. Really strange all around. Hope things can be worked out for all.

Chris