https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke

"The idioms pig in a poke and sell a pup (or buy a pup) refer to a confidence trick originating in the Late Middle Ages, when meat was scarce, but cats and dogs were not.

A poke is a sack or bag. It has a French origin as "poque" and, like several other French words, its diminutive is formed by adding "ette" or "et"—hence "pocket" began life with the meaning "small bag". Poke is still in use in several English-speaking places, including Scotland and some regions of the USA. For example among English hop growers, a poke is a large sack into which hops are poured to be taken from the picking machine to the oast for drying.

The scheme entailed the sale of a suckling pig in a poke. The bag, sold unopened, would actually contain a cat or dog, which was substantially less valuable as a source of meat. The French idiom acheter (un) chat en poche (to buy a cat in a bag) refers to an actual sale of this nature, as do many European equivalents, while the English expression refers to the appearance of the trick."

Moment of reflection for all excited about the turn of events in the realm of Magic Girl....

Is American Pinball going to actually make everyone 'whole' to clear the PR path for JPOP for Magic Girl? Preorder folks were only part of the story folks...

*cough cough* As in... will ALL of the people like myself who were convinced to work (and stick around) above and beyond (for little to no pay at times) under the guise that we would receive a machine upon completion as the bonus to offset?

Will we receive our promised games? I've received no call so I guess no.

And THAT is why all should temper their excitement in future JPOP projects... remember they were built on the backs of folks who were also taken for a ride...

To the point: those machines being delivered contain work never fully paid for.

/end reality check

Its a S7 clearly you know absolutely nothing about contrast, lighting or taking pictures.

He doesn't get it

From everyone I've personally reached out to who worked on the zid games, no one is working on the new game and all were left stiffed.

I hope you are made whole as well ZY. I doubt that everyone will be made whole though. On their facebook page their was a comment from AP about working on making others whole after MG but it has disappeared.

Incoming PM

So beautiful!

AP facebook page
"They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so here's 3. We're at the G2E show, booth 4105 if you'd like to stop by and see it for yourself."

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Whysnow, breathe in. Breathe out. Go out for a nice walk. Pet kitty. Nice heart rate-lowering things.

Just as a reminder and context, here is the Magic Girl article from last year of the game that DID flip, had some rules and multiball, but was still deemed 50% done and shitcanned by Pintasia.

http://www.pinballnews.com/games/magicgirl/index.html

Yeah, the one that was at the Northwest Pinball & Arcade show was booted up and played a few times with a lot of problems going on. It was definitely part way programmed, so they probably aren't starting from scratch. There were huge lines around it when it was booted up, I didn't actually play it, so I don't know how well it was developed, but here is some video:

hey, that sounds familiar.

If Magic Girl games were actually being shipped, that could help to undercut any claims of fraud, though the counter-argument would be that he is now on the back-end trying to cover for his prior behavior by actually making a few games.

But isn't the primary claim the buyers have here for breach of contract? Zidware took money and hasn't shipped games within anything approaching a "reasonable time." I can't see how shipping a few Magic Girls to a few buyers would do anything to the legal claims of RAZA and AIW customers that their contracts were not honored.

Now lets see it flip as it's just a art piece right now. As far magic girl goes that played like crap when it was showed.

Not bad!

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Thanks Ted....Harry on a Good Hair day!

yes!

I see what's really going on here.
JPOP is simply trying to get into the Guinness book of world records as the most prolific designer of games that never got produced!

Wake me up when he announces David Copperfield, the pinball!
The entire game will just vanish into thin air as you unbox it

Well, pics of Houdini at vegas I put here from their FB page have been deleted, so go to American Pinball's FB page to see them.
They're obviously not top secret if they're on FB, but whatever...

https://www.facebook.com/americanpinball/?fref=ts

Theatre of Magic was originally intended to be David Copperfield ... so he's already done the sleight of hand.

Zombie Yeti did do some David Copperfield art for jpop as well, for a pin that never saw light of day.

strange as they are still posted on the other thread

This thread isn't even being bumped to top of the forum when new posts are made.
???

If it's not answered by Expo, this should be the first question asked during their seminar. Any non-answer should be considered a "no" and people can decide if they want to support AP at that time.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=705380626282107&id=512719442214894

The shear weight of 20k posts is holding it down.

I am surprised we have not seen any real pinball paparazzi photos of this game from G2E yet.

Not yet you mean.

From Magic Girl comes Houdini and David Copperfield next!
JPOP has to keep the "magic" alive.

If John became a home builder...

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"Consultant" my ass - Stevie Wonder could tell John designed this thing.

I like the LCD that isn't even mounted straight, with visible metal frame at top and 2 pointless banners to hide the left and right edges.

This looks to have the same issues as MG and RAZA. A great-looking PF, but absolutely no clue how to make anything work above it (ramps, return lanes) Just a pile of laser-cut nonsense lit up like a Christmas tree.

The photos suck (and better ones weren't allowed) because it would reveal how NOTHING goes together in a cohesive way.

So tell us how you really feel, Ben.

JPOP has been working hard the past year making great pinball.

Would probably need a working game in order to write code.

Sorry guys I'm smelling a major MG 2.0 here. Call me wrong in 3 weeks but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

At least more of Houdini has been shown than BM66. Bazzinga!!

Bet you BM66 flips...Kapow!

I bet Houdini disappears.

I do not see any deletions. Feel free to post the pictures in this thread.

Marcus

Thanks, it was right before 19810

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Photo Credit: Jon Norris

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Another photo by Jon Norris

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Jpop was a whitewood designer,so i presume the thing shoots real good.
They have to polish,code and tweak this protomachine a bit,big deal..
I hope AP will get stuff done and send me a houdini for my aiw money.
And it would be nice if there was an apologie letter from JPOP inside the cab.
The feeling of my money vanishing won't go away anytime soon though..that was hard to deal with for months.

Sure. And I hope a sloth riding a lama thru space discovers an assortment of fruit.

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that is hilarious,got coffee coming out my nose now...hahaha
the most insane picture í ever saw,perios...

Is that a stripper on a pole near the right ramp? I don't remember any strippers in Houdini's act.

That would be the Indian rope trick.
Magicchiz