You expect people to make a 16K decision based on the game in its current state??

Obviously the girl has sex with the owl.

They should now call it Magic Woman....

I can see why. I think the MG playfield looks better than the RAZA one at this point. I believe the "clown puke" should be more a reference to the LED usage than the playfield artwork on this game.

YombieYetti, I do have an honest question about the color palette though. Is that you or John driven? I'm an owner of RAZA vaporware, and I have to admit that as much as I love the art, I have been perplexed by the overly blue/purple/pink color palette. I thought the way BHZA looked was cool and retro feeling. RAZA seemed to take an artwork turn with all the sci-fi stuff (which you've said was forced by John) and the color scheme. I really LOVE your work, so I'm curious about the color choices.

i'm glad i did not put money down on zombie adventure game years ago. Hope all who put money down get something back at some point.

I like it.

Or maybe Magic Broad.

No skin in the game, hate to see all you good people getting screwed, and I REALLY hate seeing a pretty game like that go to waste.

I don't think it looks like skittles barf; I think it looks magical. ZombieYeti's artwork is phenomenal!

yeah, Ben obviously has a personal axe to grind with JPOP. But that was kinda dickish.

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I heard first 100 customers of MG get a clown nose and rainbow clown wig:

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Personally - it looks busy as hell. The old throw the kitchen sink in approach. Sorry i do not look at it and say instant classic. Art is in the eye of the beholder and if the artist takes each comment personally, it is probably better to do something else.

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Looks pretty, but the upper playfield looks like its view is obstructed.

I start the color concepts and john lets me go as if I'm clear, then at some point he takes my separations and removes all contrast and pushes the hue to 5000%...

I think he believes CV is the roadmap and I don't...

That said, MG is closer to my original palette than RAZA by a long shot... But the issue is he doesn't understand value (brightness contrast) is more important to readability than hue(color)...

So for instance, while RAZA needed to be brightly colored (as I was instructed) I originally had the background dark to pop the radiated palette pieces with contrast - when you remove the contrast it might as well be pastel. And that's how it reads.

In reality - RAZA is far from locked - but with the color plates there it can still be adjusted etc...

So I do the technical work & he adjust the plates to his palette

I honestly thing MG is a beautiful game and the artwork is amazing. I would be very proud of it if I were you ZY.

If I cared about people's opinion that much I don't think my portfolio would resemble anything close to what it is.

Taste is subjective - yours as well as mine.

That said - Ben and I have talked a lot - I was not expecting that post...

I agree! In my dreams I draw like that.

To me it is a shame that John's ego is so big that not only does he hire a great artist and not pay him, but then he decides that he is the artisitic genious and wants to tweak a bunch of stuff. Sure, provide your input to steer as the designed but let the pro do the driving.

I think the art by itself looks great, but when I look at it, I think of something Python said to me at Expo a couple of years ago when looking at my whitewood and giving me thoughts about the art. He said something along the lines of 'keep it simple, don't cram a ton of stuff into it, you don't want it to look too busy'.

Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion and have different likes and dislikes. When I look at the game, overall, it seems very busy, just too much stuff going on with the ramps, toys, plastics and the art. This is not meant in anyway as a criticism of ZombieYeti's art, which most of us agree is a amazing, but more about John's approach to the game and what seems like him wanting to throw/cram in everything he ever wanted to do on a pin.

I think it borders on busy but doesn't quite drive off the cliff.

Now, that said, once you see it on with the insert lit and a game playing, well... that opinion might change. I think about how WoZ is like eyeball overload.

As a trained artist and illustrator I am pretty much amazed at ZY's work. I can pull most anything together visually but he is at a whole other level (of power and confidence).

Of course, now that Jpop is out of the picture, nothing is stopping the art being produced in any color pallet wanted.

Too much My Little Pony for everyone's taste? Screen it in a different color.

It's only ink.

Ok judging the game on its own it's a gorgeous piece of pinball work. I can't wait for the video.
PS: from what I can see yes it's a busy pf but I don't think the view is obstructed from the player's perspective.

Oh I don't take it that way. And I agree there's too much sh#t on there but if I dig up the playfield as I did it (without the sh#t) it's got a lot of open and empty resting areas. Again - that's the contrast idea - you can't have action without calm etc...

FWIW, I think the color palette and artwork are fantastic. I collect inexpensive but awesome art, and I was kind of disappointed that your short run of prints had sold out.

I don't expect anything of anyone making a decision at this point. Do what you want.

Zombie Yeti, you should be extremely proud of this work. Don't let others get you down. You are an amazing and talented artist and you belong on a current team doing pinball artwork.

Take a look at Tales from the Crypt. Very busy, yet visually stunning. I love intricate artwork with lots going on. Metallica Pro is widely regarded as some of the best pinball art as well. An entire internet forum will give you positive and negative reviews. Focus on the positive here, you have legitimately produced one of the best pieces of pinball art of all time in your first project. Don't worry about Ben, he often offends people :p

One of the weekends I was at John's shop, he had a multi-level wood cut sign thing that had something to do with a wizard, but I can't remember exactly the details. It looked awesome though. Any chance that's your art Jeremy? Could you do poster prints of that?

John said at the time he was going to make/sell those and a few other decor items as a side thing but that never happened.

Here are some photos
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Looks badass to me, I dont care who says what, if they ever get made or not.

Oh cool! are you donating these from your personal stash?

Holy nightmare shop out!

I saw it, looks are very cool. Not clear it was Jeremy's work though.

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I like your work Yeti, I'm sorry if I made you feel discouraged. You will be making great waves in pinball long after this project!

Pinball looks a lot different on camera than in person, hopefully I'll see one in person some day and form a better opinion.

I won't change my mind on this though: Plastics in the back half are overkill, do nothing (I assume) and will greatly increase the assembly costs. Bill should consider simplifying them.

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I'm going to put it more delicately than Ben, but what's up with the colored GI? And is the backbox RGB that just happens to be constantly on purple or is that color of the strips?

Why would you take Jeremy's work, blow out all the contrast in the name of constant oversaturation, and then compound that by killing any chance of the details appearing by washing it out all out with colored lights? Not hard to fix the GI, I'd like to know more about the backbox lighting though. Would look so much better with cool white lighting letting the art speak for itself.

Great harm!

I think with Cool White GI it would look 10x better.

That trough cover is bananas! Really nice.

Imagine how great this thing would be if Popaduik wasn't such a fuckwit.

Owe me a Coke.

This is why everybody does custom LEDs anyway. Everybody likes something different.

The cabinet art is a whole other kettle of fish though. Doesn't jive with the playfield or backglass at all. If it didn't say "Magic Girl" on it I would think it was for a completely different game...

Well remember it was done by an entirely different artist.

Game looks cool as shit, just hope it doesn't play like shit.

Hope they get one fully working at
Some point.

If I'm in the store and see one that says "Share a coke with a goat" I'll grab it for you.

They don't do anything ? I have to strongly disagree with you. This machine is one beauty. Especially all of the art, I would love have one in my living room. Do the plastics serve a "game" purpose ? No, but they make the machine look damn sexy. Now one could argue if a nice looking pinball machine is worth 16k, but to say they overall decoration of the machine is not important ?

I did do that - even engraved and cut the parts on my laser