If you want to pay $2K for it, it is no prank.

Correction: $1995.00

Don't forget shipping!

They'll prob. sell out within a couple weeks. The price is low enough rich people will buy it just for the hell of it.

Pick up your Scoregasm Master in person at MGC - No shipping cost!

April fools day is over, brotha!

Day One Pinball's Scoregasm Master is no joke. It's a legit pin-game that you can buy at MGC.

Can you blame me for thinking its an elaborate prank? I'll believe it after MGC.

Anyone else notice that Iceman has been MIA from this thread? Not that I blame him; I take it to mean his last phone call with Jpop either didn't go well....or didn't go.

Didn't go. According to latest, nobody has gotten through to Zidwareland lately.

Pretty sure once John realizes that if nobody is sending money for AIW his ponzi is over. Time to gtfo.

Come on Jpopped, pick up the phone.

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Alien is being done by Heighway Pinball. It'll be their first licensed title after Full Throttle comes out.
p3 is the platform developed by Multimorphic. The first title is Lexy Lightspeed:Escape from Earth.

Wow I didn't even bother to look at the thread, with the name and April 1st I figured it was an April fool.
Crappy day for the announcement indeed.

Depends- it's also the first day of the quarter.

I understand, but announcing a flipperless game named ScoreGasm on April 1st can be misleading.
I guess I would have waited until the second, but anyway, cool project either way!

actually, it's the perfect day, if you think about it... he will get more clicks since people will assume it is fake and will click for the amusement factor...

Do we want him talking to Ice or do we want him working? Can't have both.

Busy in production. You're hilarious. This is just how he operates. When that guy that he announced was going to work with him as a PM met with him for 2 days and asked a bunch of hard questions and talked about setting deadlines and budgets -- John never took his calls after that.

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Don't worry. He probably couldn't find his phone or computer buried beneath the stacks of new artwork revisions for AIW he had printed out on the owners' dime that nobody else is allowed to see that will never be used on the game.

If his wife is partially funding his pipe-dream maybe someone should try speaking to her.

I've lost $4.75k on Predator, and $20k+ on MG and RAZA. I will never pre-order again! They go very quiet when you ask for a refund...

Shysters. Let's be blunt about what Kevin and John Popadiuk are. Prove me wrong, 'Jpop'. Pop goes the weasel indeed.

$25k.

I know the private FB owners group is all private and whatnot...but has there been any shred of good news? I feel horrible for guys like this...so much money in limbo - it's probably taking years off people's lives stressing about it!!!

He may have lost money on Predator but not a penny with Jpop.

His post here is a secondary attempt to manipulate himself into the private owners group. His first attempt failed in an embarrassing way.

You would not believe how many Pinsiders have tried to get in. This guy and Kaneda were more entertaining than most..

Seriously? So you are saying he isn't even an owner?

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I'm sure he'll protest.

For what benefit or purpose? Am I in the Twilight Zone, wtf is going on

Guess so, it's his first and only post on Pinside.

Loser.

I would get playfields done asap to restore faith on the 2 pins. I don't have the big bucks & even I can get very nice playfields produced. The only difference is my contractors expect to be paid for their work, & they get paid! Here is pictures of the Star Gazer playfields done on a flatbed OCE uv inkjet printer, which is likely available everywhere around the world.

Like I continue to say pay your staff & contractors what is owed. Restore some faith in yourself with others watching your stuff.

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But his account was created over a year ago!?
If it's a duplicate account, it took him time to make use of it!

Pretty sure the guy is legit. He was on the JJP group with the same username. He's from the UK if anyone can check his ip

If u paid in full it would be $17k+4,750+10k... So if u paid $20k in guessing u still owed money

You are 100% totally WRONG.

He is 100% legit.

If you are so confident I will wager you $100

With all due respect I don't think you should be talking about how to get things done quickly, it has taken you many many years to get to the point of actually producing any playfields and your still having problems.

I also remember someone with the same name who was in on the JPOP games.

What possible reason can anyone offer not to begin legal proceedings to recover money from John Popiaduk? I ordered BHZA and the deadline has way passed and he no longer appears to be even attempting to finish his first game. This appears to be a giant scam.

With this and Predator - there are people on this board who have helped to fleece members here for over $2 million.

When will it stop?

When will Pinside STOP being the preferred media used by scammers to bilk the pinball community?

This needs to stop...no more Scamside.

The bigger issue with jpop besides taking forever, is his terrible customer and communication skills. So he agreed to weekly conferences with Ice just a few weeks back, admitting his "moronic" way of handling things, and just a few weeks later he's not answering his calls or texts.

The 2 people that cheer for jpop are the 2 people he always communicates with. pdx never has a communication problem with him, and stevenp, while not a customer, seems to never have a problem having access.

The rest of us who sent good money in and are asking simple questions, like requesting a timetable since we are YEARS late, we get stonewalled.

There doesn't appear to be any money to recover. Any money he has "on paper" is what is owed to him by us.

So I don't personally see how legal proceedings will help anything other than permanently kill it and create some theater for the spectators of this thread. But it won't recover any money.

The key is we do not send him any more good money after bad. He's going to have to figure out a way to finance the completion of the games that doesn't include more money from us, he's lost that privilege.

The key to all of this is going to be control. Ice was starting to get a foot in the door, but appears he has been shut out. Until you get JPop to relinquish some control of the project, especially the timeline, I don't know how far you will get.

Don't think john is a con artist, just a poor time management or he's in over his head etc...

However, IMO if anyone wanted out, John should refund you, it's no longer on schedule remotely which is to me the definition of breach of contract. Unless John is shipping the pins very shortly he no longer has the right to keep your money. Just ask for/demand a refund, I bet if several or many people ask for/demand a refund you will see him moving his ass a bit more.

Just think, if you bought a TV or a car, paid for 70% of the item, and the seller said he couldn't deliver the item, therefore you don't have a contract anymore, it's a contract for an item, no item means you can demand your money back.

It seems people are ok with the time being extended, but IMO it's getting a bit much with John not even remotely making progress. If it looked bad 5 months ago, at the Expo and after when he didn't show anything, does it look any better now? you would thing 5-6 months would be starting to show some progress.

I cannot emphasize enough the solid reasoning behind this statement. Frolic understands perfectly the *real world* situation we are presently in.

Under those real world parameters, what helpful suggestions might Pinside have for us?

Why do you say there is no money to recover? Has the bank account been shown?

To me a big issue was that there was a payment schedule and a production schedule which had us paying at various stages of development. However the subsequent payment was asked for before actual production schedules were met.

It appears as if John thinks things are still ok. I don't see any urgency to finish the games.

I understand not wanting to capsize the whole project by a run on the bank, but sometimes a run on the bank is in order and people need to get back whatever's left before the bank is empty.

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No one has seen a bank account, but pretty sure it was stated in this thread by StevenP and possibly Ice, when they say he's got money left, it is including our unpaid money. Then I look at the long list of people that have been stiffed, and the kindest explanation is he is low/out of money. Combined with the bit about him not paying himself for several months.

So he took money for the first 3 years, but then stopped. Why? Not hard to figure this out.

It is what it is.

1. Reset the schedule expectations and give John the time he needs. IMO, he's about 2 years from shipping a MG.
2. Get the games flipping and out where people can beat on them. There's a lot to be learned from free testing at shows. Getting flippers, pops, and slings working is trivial, you could even use EM hardware. Rules and scoring are not as important as testing the layout (shots, ball flow, and possible ball traps).
3. Try to get rid of the secrecy; it isn't working anyway.
4. Request periodic updates, but no more often than monthly. They should be simple and include the following:
A. What was accomplished last month
B. What are the upcoming checkpoints
C. What do you plan to accomplish next month

I'll take that wager.

All he need do is send me proof of his Magic Girl ownership. He already knows how to do this from our email exchange.

If you agree say so now and I will give him one week from today to do what should take him 5 minutes via an email.

I think you mean light years as in ~ 10 trillion miles away.