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John Popadiuk update thread……MAGIC GIRL, RAZA, AIW…..

By iceman44

5 years ago

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Post #20523 Link to legal documents with allegations & responses Posted by DennisK (3 years ago)

Post #20526 Third amended complain document Posted by c508 (3 years ago)

Post #20532 Summary of complaints & responses in legal documents Posted by DennisK (3 years ago)

Post #20626 MG is now ready! Posted by TecumsehPlissken (2 years ago)

Post #20631 Scott Goldberg mail on MG completion Posted by TecumsehPlissken (2 years ago)

Post #21819 Information on webpage dedicated to Magic Girl Code Features. Posted by applejuice (2 years ago)

Post #22024 moderation notice Posted by Xerico (2 years ago)

Post #22304 Photos of every page of the Magic Girl manual. Posted by vidgameseller (2 years ago)

Post #22584 Lion Saw feature information. Posted by applejuice (2 years ago)

Post #22710 Very detailed review from a game owner Posted by ShinyNick (2 years ago)

Post #22817 Details on the origin of the driver board Posted by Borygard (2 years ago)

Post #22957 Comparison photos between a MG 'prototype' and another shipped MG Posted by spfxted (2 years ago)

Post #23045 Pinball News first look review. Posted by Pinballs (2 years ago)

Post #23392 Ebay Auction for NIB Magic Girl #007 Posted by fattrain (2 years ago)

Post #23611 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by dgarrett (2 years ago)

Post #23615 Interview with Linda Deal (artist), speaking about CV and TOM Posted by toyotaboy (2 years ago)

Post #23754 The Deeproot link. Posted by pin2d (2 years ago)

Post #23946 Result of civil suit against JPOP Posted by rommy (1 year ago)

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#170 5 years ago


2 months later
#702 5 years ago

"Where's the game?"

#780 5 years ago
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:

Dates are nice but if they can’t realistically be meet why make them?

To keep you in, obviously.

#785 5 years ago
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:

ironically thats why i sold WOZ pre-delivery

Likewise, Jan 2012.

#1010 5 years ago

How many do you think he could sell, maybe 10?

#1045 5 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

Stern doesn't go out of their way to come onto the forums and slap people with lawsuit threats and call them idiots. They also don't randomly jack up the price of their games after the price has already been announced.

Wonder what that price tag was in lost sales.

3 weeks later
#1236 5 years ago
Quoted from SilverUnicorn:

I feel bad for him because at this point the torches and pitchforks are on the time line, but if things are rushed they will be on an incomplete game.
In the end it seems like nobody is winning

I don't feel bad for the guy. Self imposed time line from an experienced pinball guy.
Staying in for now.......

1 week later
#1346 5 years ago

Just curious, when someone says they are "out of room", do they more likely mean "out of cash"?

#1394 5 years ago

I can't afford the wait for all three.

1 week later
#1608 5 years ago

how does a letter work for a refund?

#1814 5 years ago

did the refund policy change, like the game?

#1884 5 years ago

We will find out shortly.

#1998 5 years ago

If we could only have a "Popaduik Effect"

John, Please complete and produce the game, soon!

#2139 5 years ago
Quoted from lllvjr:

I think the raza play field is fugly colored.

If he reads this, will he start over?

1 week later
#2647 5 years ago

Maybe not hurting for money?

Or terrible business practice, with some people wanting refunds.

2 weeks later
#3123 5 years ago

This project =

#3230 5 years ago

Enough is enough. Just hopped on the blog bandwagon, requesting a full refund.

2 weeks later
#3698 4 years ago

that's 1 square jaw.

1 month later
#4221 4 years ago

today must be the day, he promised, right?

2 weeks later
#4974 4 years ago

Ice, Glad you are taking strong interest, but sorry, after all this with John, the last thing I would do is send in more money, just because YOU (or anyone else) may happen to "believe it's a GO", in the future. Still too many unknowns.

#4976 4 years ago

I see your thoughts are the only ones that matter.

Carry on.

#4977 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

IF its a "go" and you owe money on a pin with John then you will send it in or be done.
I doubt you are in as usual Pinstor. So it doesn't matter what you think.
You do this as par for the course with JJP and everybody else, you have no pin collection nor do you contribute to this site so like I said, it doesn't matter what you think.

Whew! I just went downstairs to see if my collection was still there. All good.

#5002 4 years ago

Blogging is a true waste of John's time, at this point. Finish the games, worry about the book later.

#5030 4 years ago

Anybody surprised?

#5065 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Since we are at this stage now after 4 years and its basically F it, trying to be open and honest I'll share the conversation I had with Chris at Cointaker.
He's a really good dude and I think has contributed a lot to helping John and his "lighting" development. No charge for that of course.
Then over time Chris has sent approx. $7k worth of LED's at COST and John has simply not paid him to date despite promises to do so.
Now Chris didn't ask me to keep this off the record so I'm putting it out there for what it's worth. I'll report it, you decide.
Since I can't get an answer to the many questions that you guys and I both have I'll just have to fill in my own blanks.
Wouldn't it stand to reason that if John won't pay Chris $7k, for an "integral" part of the team and especially RAZA ("Cointaker versions), its either one of two things:
1) He really has spent most of the $$$ OR
2) He really is just that DUMB when it comes to business and getting shit done because you would have to really be STUPID to keep burning vendor bridges, customer bridges etc. IF you have the funds to pay people to help you get shit done and don't use the funds, then I'm just baffled.
My feeling is he has spent the last two years diddling around looking for an investor to drop out of the sky.
Just recently, "production was going to begin on MG in the first of March".....
The lack of honesty and transparency is destroying both John and Kevin imo.

Some people eventually see what others see.

You just can't believe everything you hear and see from pinball manufacturers, IMHO.

#5150 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Who is going to drop another dime into a black hole? Not any customers or vendors I know of.

What I was trying to tell you here earlier, before you got all wound up.

I will gladly pay my balance when I can pick up my fully completed game.

#5180 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

He is obviously motivated. Hang in there.

He may seem motivated in your talks with him, but without answering any of the tough questions to the public, himself, I wonder just how motivated he is?

Hoping your assessment of John's "motivation" is accurate.

#5325 4 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

Ice, thinking about this, your involvement and what we learned from Predator....
Whenever you have a conversation with him, you can't report back to us "everything is cool, money is fine, 2 weeks, trust me, etc"
I think you'll have to have clear questions, and report back his answers to those questions. .

At this point, if another phone call happens, will anyone believe one word of it?

#5438 4 years ago
Quoted from Pickenheim:

Any of the 19 original MG owner's let's make a deal, I would like to buy your contract, looking at you lucky #7!

How about RAZA#40?

#5466 4 years ago

blockquote cite="#2335454">Would love to see a Stern Predator come out someday. Should be releasing right around the time we see that working Magic Girl.

Your thinking is based on what facts about a working date for MG?

#5583 4 years ago

Will that be a lasting picture of a hero, or a zero? His decision.

#5648 4 years ago

Here's hoping John would step up and take a few minutes of his time away from working on AIW, and honor the individual refund requests from MG and RAZA owners.

#5850 4 years ago

and still no updates, no games, no..........

1 week later
#6108 4 years ago

Time for a Hitler video yet?

#6229 4 years ago
Quoted from Legacy:

All I want to say is if the above comment is true and if or when the other buyers organize and pursue legal action I want in.

Count me in.

Among various reasons mentioned in this update thread previously, the utter lack of respect shown to the buyers is mind boggling.

I have asked for a refund for Raza twice, with no response.

Evidently, blowing people off trying to help him, according to various statements made here on pinside.

Just not the professional I thought I signed up with. Disappointed.

Makes Jack look like a saint. At least Jack refunded people when asked.


#6279 4 years ago
Quoted from Concretehardt:

John you can still turn this around and turn into a story of redemption, but understand if you keep heading down the path your on you won't be able to show your face in the pinball community ever again! Not only because you will be a ridiculed but also for your own safety, as some won't take kindly to the fact that you took their hard earned money and gave them nothing.

Just in case John misses this, worth displaying again.

#6282 4 years ago

Hero or Zero, his choice.

#6578 4 years ago

there sure is some odd people in pinball........

#6614 4 years ago

And here I was thinking about going to the zoo today......

#6960 4 years ago
Quoted from gweempose:

It's beyond appalling. It's positively insane. The man clearly isn't playing with a full deck. There is simply no other explanation. No sane person would do what John has done.

Wonder if he is on something?

#7058 4 years ago

5 refund requests, 5 no responses.

#7197 4 years ago

Excuses, general talk, pics, reveals, blame, etc.......Still doesn't help with any answers to the tougher questions.

I would like a full refund now, please.

Will be interested in buying one later, whenever that might be, when I can play one. Very interested in buying all three, when they come out.

#7465 4 years ago
Quoted from NYP:

I finally got a call back from him, he told me that MG is almost finished, we can all relax now

He told me that two years ago.

#7578 4 years ago

What has John done the 10 years before his idea to try his skill set at being a pinball manufacturer?

#7581 4 years ago

already edited.

#7600 4 years ago

Does this mean MG is now 96% done?

1 week later
#8286 4 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

I'm just confused with how the $15k-$17k price tag is being justified? I already see what you get with a new JJP Ruby Red WOZ (or Hobbit LE / Smaug SE) for $9k, a Stern LE at nearly $8k, and a MMR LE at $8k. Where in Magic Girl and RAZA is the other $5k-$8K in parts and features?

Maybe a record number of code updates?

I kidd, I kidd.....

#8446 4 years ago

Oops, I thought I clicked on the jpop update thread concerning mg, raza, aiw.

#8715 4 years ago
Quoted from rai:

Just send John an email, he'll get to it in time.

You must be having better luck than my multiple email refund requests for RAZA. Not a word in months.

Or a check.

#9112 4 years ago

Might consider/look at splitting costs of a lawyer, if anybody else is following suit. Pm me.

Wish I had my refund so I could exit this thread. So simple.

#9452 4 years ago

Wonder how much "for the love of pinball" has cost pinheads over the years?

One of the dumbest statements made here.

#9628 4 years ago

"Who is going to be making these pins?"

Why, the pinball design company that specializes in restructuring companies.

Boy oh boy, am I excited.

#9629 4 years ago

did Ice sign an nda?

#9793 4 years ago

for the love of pinball

#10510 4 years ago

popadiuk is the farthest thing from a rock star now.

#10534 4 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

Owners want JPop completely excluded from this (and rightly so), so whose going to finish with the design?

anybody breathing.

#10846 4 years ago

Interesting if John appears.

#11277 4 years ago

greed and incompetence.

#12592 4 years ago
Quoted from guyincognito:

Zidware pre-order buyers should get a free month of JPop's Pinball University where they learn how to complete and assemble their games.


Who would teach the class?

#12834 4 years ago

Thanks for being a "caretaker of pinball".

#13156 4 years ago

Is today the day John has to answer the Smith lawsuit? If so, anybody hear anything?

#13184 4 years ago


#13420 4 years ago
Quoted from shlockdoc:

Was the show not open to the public today? why would it not be there? 30 hours straight on the road to now wait 24 hours and not show it? Hmmmm, the big reveal i guess.

Sombody forget the rug?

#14045 4 years ago

If I missed it, sorry, but why did Zamost leave the lawsuit that is happening?

#14709 4 years ago

Anybody test the water in Oregon lately?

#14805 4 years ago

Paranoid. Protective. Lies. Secrets. Unpaid vendors. Lack of Refunds. Shell game. Willingness to receive deposits very late in the game.

Hiding money?

1 week later
#15930 4 years ago

If I were John, ......I would refund customers and pay the vendors.

#15942 4 years ago

Nice looking house, but is it finished inside?

Edit: (Helping someone out.)

#16069 4 years ago
Quoted from Razorbak86:

According to the updated court docket, the Popadiuks hired Venis & Copp LLP as legal counsel for all 3 defendants.
They filed an appearance and paid their court fees on June 24th.
Venis & Copp is a small, general practice law firm in Chicago with both litigation and bankruptcy experience.

Please keep us informed!

#16138 4 years ago


#16201 4 years ago

lawsuit status?

1 week later
#16470 4 years ago

jack needs to be concerned about his own house.

#16698 4 years ago

Has Illinois attorney general started anything yet?

#16753 4 years ago

somebody pump up the local media.

Time for action.

Still waiting on my RAZA refund.

#16802 4 years ago

where is that "business for dummies" picture?

Back to things JPOP, anybody file FTC yet?

2 weeks later
#17068 4 years ago

Never thought about judging my pins based on how many ink lines they have.

Probably have to toss the inferior ones off the roof.

1 month later
#17855 4 years ago

Wonder if John's light bulb just came on.

IOU's to everybody.

Problem solved.

#17889 4 years ago

did hitler find out about jpop and no games and no refunds yet?

#17891 4 years ago

It's been awhile...

1 week later
#18176 4 years ago
Quoted from jlm33:

Beware. He would use this as an excuse. People can't sue him for not delivering a game, and then destroy the prototype he brings to Expo.

disagree with that way of thinking

3 months later
#18495 3 years ago

Close thread?


2 weeks later
#18614 3 years ago
Quoted from Strange:

I still find John a very talented and unique pinball designer, my personal fave as I've expressed before. It's a shame there as been such turbulence around these new games which in my opinion have all looked amazing. If there is a will there is a way. The Pinball Inventor has nothing else to prove but make nice pin games. He will come through in the end...

Has he ever finished anything?

#18617 3 years ago

"95% done", shouldn't take much longer, right?

2 months later
#18825 3 years ago

bump to the top, been awhile.......any new news?

3 months later
#19182 3 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

His biggest downfall is delegating what he was supposed to be known for (artist), and not delegating very well where he needed help (mechanical, electrical, programming).

I would top that with his obvious egotistical pride, a lack of common business sense, and he still needs to learn plenty about pinball before going into manufacturing.

My downfall was that I believed him on his supposedly designer reputation alone, and gave him money.
Dumb a$$.

2 months later
#20384 3 years ago
Quoted from benheck:

Also, why in the blue blazes did John hire a programmer in ENGLAND?

Maybe he said he would work for the "love of pinball", ?

3 months later
#22276 2 years ago

I won't support until he makes customers and vendors whole.

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