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John Popadiuk update thread……MAGIC GIRL, RAZA, AIW…..


By iceman44

5 years ago



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Post #20523 Link to legal documents with allegations & responses Posted by DennisK (3 years ago)

Post #20526 Third amended complain document Posted by c508 (3 years ago)

Post #20532 Summary of complaints & responses in legal documents Posted by DennisK (3 years ago)

Post #20626 MG is now ready! Posted by TecumsehPlissken (2 years ago)

Post #20631 Scott Goldberg mail on MG completion Posted by TecumsehPlissken (2 years ago)

Post #21819 Information on webpage dedicated to Magic Girl Code Features. Posted by applejuice (2 years ago)

Post #22024 moderation notice Posted by Xerico (2 years ago)

Post #22304 Photos of every page of the Magic Girl manual. Posted by vidgameseller (2 years ago)

Post #22584 Lion Saw feature information. Posted by applejuice (2 years ago)

Post #22710 Very detailed review from a game owner Posted by ShinyNick (2 years ago)

Post #22817 Details on the origin of the driver board Posted by Borygard (2 years ago)

Post #22957 Comparison photos between a MG 'prototype' and another shipped MG Posted by spfxted (2 years ago)

Post #23045 Pinball News first look review. Posted by Pinballs (2 years ago)

Post #23392 Ebay Auction for NIB Magic Girl #007 Posted by fattrain (2 years ago)

Post #23611 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by dgarrett (2 years ago)

Post #23615 Interview with Linda Deal (artist), speaking about CV and TOM Posted by toyotaboy (2 years ago)

Post #23754 The Deeproot link. Posted by pin2d (2 years ago)

Post #23946 Result of civil suit against JPOP Posted by rommy (1 year ago)


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#9913 4 years ago

you suck john

#10158 4 years ago

I am in..let us just wait who is going to manufacture,for now he does not need money,so this is the best that happened the last 48 hours.

#10178 4 years ago

easy for you guys to say everybody should sue JPOP,i live in the netherlands,europe.
everything is out of reach for me.
I can only hope the pins get build and be superdisgusted having to look at it when it is delivered.
I can do nothing but feel stupid and read pinside to get info?
John,i am sure you read this, you are insane,i am selling everything with your f ing name on it.

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#10185 4 years ago

Gary Stern is having a beer behind his computer,laughing himself silly...so my stern machines weren't good enough for you guys?at least i deliver bitches! LOL!
Guess who's all crawling back to me now!! mwoehahaha!!

#10221 4 years ago
Quoted from pinball_customs:

This is what Bill does. It's unfair to attack him without giving him a chance. We've waited this long, so what's another few months? Put down the pitch forks and let's see what Bill can do while the ball is in his court. I'd much rather try this than lose ALL my money when Zidware goes bankrupt and John goes into hiding.

I feel the same,i think there still is money,John can not be so stupid that he spent the last $,he saw problems on the horizon,that is what is going on.
They will not tell us how much money there still is,because everybody would demand refunds.
So i think John chose this way to get things done.( i hope..)
This Pintasia thing could be the best that happened so far,cause the ADD artist can't make it on his own.

#10223 4 years ago

add hipster..

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#10226 4 years ago
Quoted from rommy:

Bill called me and said I killed the whole project.

thanks mate

#10238 4 years ago
Quoted from teekee:

I can't believe how much time and effort some of you have spent in this thread. If you were getting paid by the hour you guys would have enough cash to refund everyone! Fire up the grill, pop open a beverage and thank a veteran… do something worthwhile this weekend.

yeah you are right,our whole weekend is going down the drain,we'll see,it is not up to us to fix this,they will contact us.

#10244 4 years ago

I wonder if a spot opens anytime soon,sucks to be on the reserve list man..

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#10247 4 years ago

I am auctioning of this beautiful signed print,i hope to generate some money to minimize my losses

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#10250 4 years ago

anybody interested in this early mg artwork? i need about $6000 for it

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#10264 4 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

How did you get the artwork? I've gotten zero for my money. I was thinking when this goes down the toilet I'd like a translite or something that cost me $6500.

I did some emailing with john a while ago and said i was a big fan,then he promised me to send some of his work,and he did,big envelope with a $24 stamp on it with a bunch of signed artworks.(which i took of the wall in anger)

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#10344 4 years ago

I believe in Pintasia,i rolled the dice once,let's do it again,I like to gamble.

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#10382 4 years ago

Let us laugh at john for a minute together! just an emotional blow!

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#10384 4 years ago
Quoted from shakethatmachine:

Anyone who wants my spot ($6500 paid toward a RAZA) can have it for 75% of that. Please PM me if you are interested.
I want out. Completely out.

you are out,you lost everything,there is no spot to sell for 75%,evry one of us will take 75%

#10387 4 years ago

Dude i'll do 25%

#10388 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballrockstar:

I want out. Completely out.

hahaha,what a guy..

#10391 4 years ago

some are still at this stage

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#10393 4 years ago

there it is dude..

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#10394 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

The other option is he could steal it out of bankruptcy for nothing and tell us to go F ourselves

I vote pintasia,ice is right,Bill will get it done.
There is no alternative anyway guys...put away the pitchforks,it would be the nicest thing anybody has done for me by far!

#10398 4 years ago

I always bet the wrong horse..

#10400 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Thanks for the laughs Rockstar, that's hilarious

at your service ice..

#10600 4 years ago

What if stern commits,how would you guys react?

#10657 4 years ago
Quoted from scylla:

I believe there were 2 AIW deposit requests over the last six months.

make that 3,i did not ignore it...

#10718 4 years ago
Quoted from Pimp77:

Maybe I'm wrong and they'll present a plan in the next month that knocks my dick into the dirt?

what it takes to knock a man's dick in the dirt..

#10726 4 years ago
Quoted from benheck:

Yes, a show with a set schedule (something John wouldn't understand) that pays me money (something John never did) sure as hell will take precedent over a game I NEVER ASKED TO BE IN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I (here in holland) am always looking for new episodes of the Ben Heck show on you tube,just a thrill to see for me as a homebrewer.(most of my projects fail miserably and in the end only generate smokecurtains..but nevertheless,i have fun)

But i must admit when i ordered AIW,i thought that you were going to be the programmer behind all the Zidware machines?
Seeing you and Jpop in your shop killing the mario bros machine.
To me it looked like you and Jpop would come by to fix my machine(i figured you were not coming to the Netherlands especially for me,i could see that)or install it or something...it actually convinced me that you as a supersmart programmer would be working on this?

Jpop says in interviews that he noticed you guys and immediatly new he had to work together with you guys.

Don't get me wrong,i ain't pointing or whatever Ben,you are beyond awesome,you always make me laugh with your crazy humor,i just misinterpreted these you tube clips in thinking you were a group of really awesome people(which you guys ofcourse are)and working with John.

#10731 4 years ago

my post is next to ben heck

#10735 4 years ago

and ben is a pinballrockstar too

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#10747 4 years ago

I bought AIW,i want AIW

#10753 4 years ago
Quoted from ZenTron:

How can you buy something that doesn't exist and then demand it..

I am just saying I don't want MG or RAZA, I bought AIW...

#10759 4 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

» YouTube video

At 13:18 you see why JPOP is an asperger,he is totally confused bij Ben Heck messing with his setup..i just noticed this..check it out,ben,you did that on purpose right??!! LOL

#10762 4 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/embed/_QmUtOqTQr0?autoplay=1&rel=0

At 13:18 you see why JPOP is an asperger,he is totally confused bij Ben Heck messing with his setup..i just noticed this..check it out,ben,you did that on purpose right??!! LOL

#11014 4 years ago
Quoted from woodworker:

Would spending time building a functioning KISS game complete with full artwork with your customers' money before you finished the other games that they paid for be a no-no too?

oh wow, i did not think about that? showing off his zidware kiss pin, with working kiss animation lcd?
Ooooh this keeps on sucking harde man,jezus

#11017 4 years ago
Quoted from StevenP:

Good luck trying to reason with the horde of armchair quarterbacks here.

Lol,did you just call me an armchair quarterback?
I think you guys will pull it off,everybody is just so damn mad and fingerpointing at this stage,give it a couple of days..every armchair quarterback on pinside will calm down in a while.
MG's faith lies in your hands and thus ours,but people like to scream a bit when they just lost their ass and have a fight all weekend with their wives,you dig?

I myself am pretty happy my wife did not murder me over the weekend,(i admit i kept myself away from overhangs and dangerous edges when the wife was around)I will never , ever hear the end of this from her.(which is way worse than not owning a zidware pinball)

#11032 4 years ago

wcbrandes:We are not going to commit to anything here yet. I am not the one who pissed anyone's money away and I need to bridge and talk to all the 17 or so people who paid this much for the game in the first place. Once they are satisfied (no one else) with what can be done we will then be bringing MG to a more palpable price. I have had a month and need more time but there will be a MG that competes and Pintasia's profits from these will then be circled around to all those down the line on different titles to make them whole as well. All I can do is try my best.

That is finally some positive vibes,all buyers are hyperventilating in a plastic bag all weekend

#11053 4 years ago

Am i the only one in on AIW?
All is RAZA and MG talk

#11070 4 years ago

Oh, you guys bought the aiw too,i figured , how can i have #25 if nobody bought one?

#11071 4 years ago

Praise you Bill for your effort.
What will John tell his daughter at the moment?just a thought,she is on the internet too...yeah daddy spent other peoples almost $2 million and I delivered 0 machines.
And now daddy cant go outside and the curtains have to stay closed.

#11073 4 years ago

yeah saw your post about that i believe

#11074 4 years ago

I'll be happy with one aiw,it does not need to have a ruleset,as long as i can flip a ball and have a"thing"for my money

#11179 4 years ago
Quoted from MikeS:

I think in order for this game to gain traction and build excitement worthy of a $10K-$16K game it's going to have to "Wow" in ways no other game before it has done... I just really don't see this happening and when people look beyond the beautiful artwork and realize that it's just another pinball machine the excitement and mystique will really die down for this entire project.

I disagree....big bang bar does not have a superdeep ruleset? it is a piece of rare art with humor?

#11201 4 years ago
Quoted from MikeS:

Spooky Pinball's new pin is that the artwork is going to knock our socks off!

spooky won't ship to europe,i wanted to order(netherlands),but i couldn't??

#11495 4 years ago

blegh

#11780 4 years ago

Seeing and hearing the machine,i just know this is going to sink

#12119 4 years ago

Ha!? Ben is right! the cabinet does not fit a regular station wagon! lol!!

#12130 4 years ago

where is john's facebook page?

#12180 4 years ago

Maybe we should do an exclusive $25000 version (for people without a pick up )with a small block chevy in it so you can drive the pinball home.

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#12312 4 years ago

With $5895 paid for AIW, thinking i was "almost" done sending money?

Now i have to send another $10.000 to receive magic girl if i switch.

I live in the netherlands europe,i will need to hire someone in the usa that physically picks up the machine for me,does anyone of you know someone i can trust and send $10.000 to?

It is too dicy for me as i can lose more and i will be the laugh of the netherlands??

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#12342 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballrockstar:

With $5895 paid for AIW, thinking i was "almost" done sending money?
Now i have to send another $10.000 to receive magic girl if i switch.
I live in the netherlands europe,i will need to hire someone in the usa that physically picks up the machine for me,does anyone of you know someone i can trust and send $10.000 to?
It is too dicy for me as i can lose more and i will be the laugh of the netherlands??

Why the F are you downvoting me for this post JIFFY? are you stupid?
You no-profile nobody,what is there to downvote?
It is just a question for help to the pinside community?
swallow a pinball !

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#12343 4 years ago

No,swallow a bag of them

#12571 4 years ago

Pavlov pinball:
John Popadiuk: pinball’s Steve Jobs?

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#12620 4 years ago

THANKS JOHN!

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#12627 4 years ago

I love pinball, all of a sudden i am at the roulette losing 6k?
To john popadiuk???

#12788 4 years ago

I still don't get it,JOHN POPADIUK took my $5895 for an AIW mad hatter LE..
Everytime i say this scentence it keeps getting weirder and weirder?

I btw don't understand how "dgarret"(nice dude btw) goes to Johns shop and has a
normal conversation with john?and gets his stuff signed by john?

It's all so blurry,why isn't john busy writing people apologies and stuff ... you know?
And starts making arrangments to work in a choalmine to pay everybody back?

How can someone just walk away like this?

It is just so surreal..

And i was talking smack about Stern pinball all the time...pff,apologies Gary...you deliver

#12825 4 years ago
Quoted from Crazybanana:

It always sounded like BS

I disagree,nice seminar,nothing wrong with the dude.
I just don't understand if you start building a game,make a BOM first and you know what you can spend on building it?
How can one blow through all the money for nearly 300 machines?
And not produce 1 machine?

Wait,i feel a hurl coming on..

#12833 4 years ago

This letter came from John 01-25-2015:

Hi Bas,

I am not sure what people are thinking. Pinball has always been
hard and controversial even at WMS. Us designers have always had
to "battle" the forces, all my games have bad events. But we leave
those in the past, as today all that has been created came from
nothing, just our imaginations. Which is amazing as I see it everyday
and it is "Divine" presence in the studio. There is no other explanation.

Did you see the Adobe® piece? It captured the feel and we are really
caretakers of pinball, and it demands us to be really great. I will send
you more art this week from MG so you can see more as we get the full
games ready to do "good" photographs.

We had our main cabinet vendor (prints the art) go down in December so
we have had to find a new vendor. Actually found 2 so we are delayed but
in better long position. But these games are my best work, and i am very
proud to show all. Dennis Nordman and Cameron Silver visited this last
week (to check up on me) and were floored. They could not believe the
progress of the games and how beautiful they are and creative.

They left without words, and yes my family and myself are fully dedicated.

John

What do you guys think about this letter? especially the part of nordman and silver being floored by the progress????

The part that they left without words,i can imagine!

#12908 4 years ago
Quoted from wcbrandes:

Frolic you will note the game is on the road now, there is only one driver, and John will remain in Chicago as promised. How the show turns out will be interesting but at the least everyone will get to see MG in all its glory.

Thanks from holland,I appreciate your efforts,you will be legend if this works out...legend..

#12909 4 years ago
Quoted from wcbrandes:

Frolic you will note the game is on the road now, there is only one driver, and John will remain in Chicago as promised. How the show turns out will be interesting but at the least everyone will get to see MG in all its glory.

Thanks from holland,I appreciate your efforts,you will be legend if this works out...legend..

#12910 4 years ago
Quoted from wcbrandes:

Frolic you will note the game is on the road now, there is only one driver, and John will remain in Chicago as promised. How the show turns out will be interesting but at the least everyone will get to see MG in all its glory.

Thanks from holland,I appreciate your efforts,you will be legend if this works out...legend..

#12911 4 years ago
Quoted from wcbrandes:

Frolic you will note the game is on the road now, there is only one driver, and John will remain in Chicago as promised. How the show turns out will be interesting but at the least everyone will get to see MG in all its glory.

Thanks from holland,I appreciate your efforts,you will be legend if this works out...legend..

#12912 4 years ago
Quoted from wcbrandes:

Frolic you will note the game is on the road now, there is only one driver, and John will remain in Chicago as promised. How the show turns out will be interesting but at the least everyone will get to see MG in all its glory.

Thanks from holland,I appreciate your efforts,you will be legend if this works out...legend..

#12913 4 years ago
Quoted from wcbrandes:

Frolic you will note the game is on the road now, there is only one driver, and John will remain in Chicago as promised. How the show turns out will be interesting but at the least everyone will get to see MG in all its glory.

Thanks from holland,I appreciate your efforts,you will be legend if this works out...legend..

#12914 4 years ago

Oh,don't push 6 times more if it won't send...sorry

#12916 4 years ago

lol sorry...noob in the house.

#12918 4 years ago

Stop laughing at the noob! lol

#13146 4 years ago

grrr me angry at pinballs now!.jpg

Money gone,me angry at pinball now!!!

#13147 4 years ago
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#13148 4 years ago

qbert:is all our money gone?

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#13152 4 years ago

qbert: but JPOP really nice to me? why he took my money?

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#13189 4 years ago

MAGIC ZOMBIEGIRL IN ATOMIC WONDERLAND!

let's build it and all the RAZA,AIW,MG buyers will be made whole?

It will be the tale about a zombie girl with big magical tits that drank atomic waste in radioactive wonderland and ofcourse turned purple and is eversince in sort of a retro rollercoaster acid pinball trip.

ZAP!

#13194 4 years ago

yeah...you'll be needing some serious hinges with those big magical tits..LOL

#13199 4 years ago

peel the zidware logo off

#13239 4 years ago

Hurray for pdx monkey!!!!!!!!!!!thanks man!!!!!(Guys....is he the hairy dude in the picture? i don't know who that is?)

#13260 4 years ago

Bill should not worry at the NW, everybody is supertough behind the computer,but in person they're all wallflowers.

Watch out for the wives though...they can go medieval on your ass Bill,they lost shopping money..(see what i did right there?LOL...medieval?...madness?......?..........okay.... lame...sorry about that...i just thought......okay...............moving on...........................)

#13375 4 years ago
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#13376 4 years ago
Quoted from Manic:

I'm just trying to imagine what it will be like waiting for the ball to return from the wiggle ramps... every time you hit the single ramp entrance it will have to come shimmying back one side or the other. You'd think this would make for slow gameplay. Seems like form won out over function here.

It will make ZAP! noises as it rolls down..you won't even notice

#13506 4 years ago

How could you let this happen John,the machine looks awesome?
This machine alone could have been your legacy.

Every interview you said:
sort of quote:
I have this gift,i can see the finished pinball machine in my head and now the task for me to bring it into the real world!!

#13584 4 years ago

John , it is so crazy that you did not build 1 pinball? ONE!!?? there is shit in your shop all over the place! just pick up all the shit and screw together a pinball machine? 4 f@cking years?!
You were my favorite designer,now you will be remembered as a fruit!

How the hell could you do this? this is super crazy and you are all casual about it in your "money gone" letter?

If you don't think this is crazy, then you wouldn't recognize crazy, if Charles Manson was eating fruitloops on your front porch!

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#13803 4 years ago

Does anybody own a descent film camera these days?
Are these the best movies we can get?cell phone blur?

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#13854 4 years ago

I really expected more footage and pictures of magic girl..just a bunch of horrible iphone movies,come on guys really?

I live in europe , hard to attend this show for me,but as this thread is 278 pages,i assumed you would all be posting sharp stuff?

#13879 4 years ago
Quoted from Sparky347:

I'm going to downvote your post just for calling my Android an IPhone.
Honestly the video was recorded at 60fps 1080p and looks fantastic until YouTube processes it.

Oh well sorry about that then..

#14061 4 years ago

Hey Zombieyeti,who is "literally passing away the last few days?"..

But anyway,a bit of glue,a few magnets and some lost ball software!

Let's do this,it is going to work!

Let's be happy it is in it's current state people,3 steps backwarts and it would have been impossible to build?

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#14099 4 years ago
Quoted from someoneelse:

This must be the absolute low point in style I've ever seen in any thread. Really, this is disgusting.
I'm voluntarily ejecting myself from this thread!

Hey...dude...building a KISS pinball with MY money,in the time you should build MY f@cking pinball,that is disgusting!

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#14102 4 years ago

I truly believe John is not a thief,but call him what you want,he still went to shows with empty cabs and a KISS proto game,that nobody asked or paid for?
When he took my pre order for AIW,he knew he was never gonna build it??
From pinball hero...to zero......

#14141 4 years ago
Quoted from fastpinball:

pinballrockstar said:
y passing away the last few days?"..
A family member. Really nobody on pinside's business. Drop it.
Aaron
FAST Pinball

pf mellow out man,i did not understand the context,thats all..jezus

#14291 4 years ago
Quoted from rai:

3-4 years ago, John sold a game called MG to be built sometime circa 2013. Said game was limited to 13 copies making it uber rare, later he upped the number to 26 copies. He charged $16k for this limited edition game.
A short time later he sold another games called BHZA in slightly higher numbers 99 later increased to 124, at a price of $10k. Later the theme and title of the game was changed to RAZA, this was also supposed to be completed around 2013.
Later John added another game AIW to be completed, accepted deposits and payments on that too.
All during this time, John kept everything as hidden as possible, said he was working super hard and the pins were going go be great.
Also during this time, John made a Kiss pin which he had no license for, did not collect any deposits for, so he used all the other money collected to fund this game.
John from time to time would show a few bits and pieces of the game, but never anything as finished as a white wood or even a basic alpha prototype.
Many customers began to get worried or frustrated when 2013 came and went and no games were delivered, ditto 2014. To dissuade people from seeking legal means of getting refunds from John for breach of contract, failure to deliver. John had people post that they'd been to his workshop and the games were comming along well and were worth waiting for.
When this began to wear thin, John promised that at the 2014 Expo in October he would do a big reveal. Then at that expo John brought two totally empty cabinets. People freaked out.
So John promised he'd have real prototype reveals in Dec 2014 and January 2015 for MG and RAZA respectively. Predictably John showed nothing whatsoever.
People like myself said John was bluffing and he had nothing to show, while people like PDXmonkey said there were 95% complete prototypes and he'd played them and all was well, just taking longer than expected.
More time goes by, presumably dozens of people demand refund and/or start legal proceedings against John, John says he's working 14 hrs a day 7 days a week and is tired or perplexed that he's also getting hundreds of emails or texts or phone calls a day regarding the lack of progress. But things are still good.
Then maybe 3-4 weeks ago, John posts a letter saying he's completely broke, no one will get a refund and he's allowing an outside entity (shell) assume production of MG and that they can only proceed if you all (owners) agree not to sue anyone and any owners of RAZA and AIW should forget that, but can now get a MG for $16k (less what you have paid towards RAZA or AIW or MG) and that MG will no longer be a super rare game of 26 units but perhapse 199 and then an unlimited number after that.
People rush out an unfinished alpha prototype of MG to the NW show that has most features disabled, that is broken down most of the time at the show, that no one is able to even make a ramp shot except with glass off by hand, that has a laminate playfield that is totally warped or not stuck down properly.
I think that's this whole thread in a nutshell. Insiders like PDXMONKEY please correct anything I missed or was untruthful about.

yeah , nail on the head , amazing that we all rolled along with this crap Zidware story, unbelievable...

#14292 4 years ago
Quoted from rai:

I figured, even if made, there was little chance the games would live up to the price tag, more money than MMR. And I strongly figured, if John did have somethig super cool and rad, he would show the owners. The fact that John refused to show any progress for 2+ years was a glaring red flag for me.

Rai,it must feel supergood that you listened to your gut feeling,wow,while i actually transferred an extra $2000 dec.2014...i cannot help but feeling sooo stupid,no progress,nothing,silent AIW blog and no red flags...

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#14449 4 years ago

Bill, any news on anything?

I am tired of reading everyones opinion..but one has to come back here everytime for news..

Next thing you are reading JPOOP and JFLOP bullshit over here,real cool guys..can we get over that now?

It's Always nice to hear from you,as it is kind of our only hope,could everybody just stop posting and wait for Bill to post something? or pintasia?

#15044 4 years ago

So...back from being ejected from this loser tread for the second time..awesome...thanks! supercool people over here

I am so done here,goodbye everybody,goodbye money,goodbye pinball...

I will contnue with my life now.

#15220 4 years ago

I am John, i give you this,but you paid for that..

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#15556 4 years ago
Quoted from benheck:

making a game isn't THAT hard.

I tried Ben...it was hard..

#15562 4 years ago
Quoted from gweempose:

But I'm also sure that even someone who knows absolutely nothing about pinball design or manufacturing could build a single fully realized protytpe if they were given a million bucks and four years to do it.

True

#15650 4 years ago
Quoted from benheck:

the longer the noodles, the less there is

yeah , that's what you get with long noodles..

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#15666 4 years ago

Today i got my WOZ ECLE #641,amazing,amazing machine,should have bought that right away instead of supporting JPOP,in retrospect i feel so stupid..WOZ is a million times better than what JPOP's AIW could have been.
Just imagine the balls Jersey Jack has and how dedicated this man is/was(woz).
WOZ is a pinball on steroids,it is crazy beautiful...colorchanging leds...fat ruleset...bizar quality all the way...first lcd in pinball...certificates... autographs..amazing..
And people are seriously complaining on the web about WOZ? neh...the lights are too bright..something broke...blah blah..
This guy delivered,tweaks are common,no pin is perfect.
With my $6000 loss on JPOP,i have a new look on pinball and it's community.
Jersey Jack is a superhero,what is the BOM on this machine?it must be $10000???and he is presumably selling them with losses?LOL
And this shines a new light on JPOP for me? he has fucking nothing to show??
Look at Jack you STUPID FUCK! you did nothing! NOTHING!?
ASSHOLE FUCKFACE POPADIUK! (see you in 24 hours bey pinside!)

#15983 4 years ago
Quoted from dgarrett:

I am not a saint, but I can object to your crap

so you have no money in this? you go to JPOP to get your stuff signed? you wrote JJP a love letter?

you loved being in Jpop's shop for the history of it?

listen buddy,we all lost serious money,you DO act like you are a saint and there is a lot of pissed of people over here,do not come here again,this place is not for you...

you just like to watch a good car crash,

go away..

#15984 4 years ago

I now own that garage door..

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#16025 4 years ago
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

John couldn't make a single pinball machine in four years, although claiming he knew how and had the experience.

yeah,go figure....he was emailing Ben Heck,telling him he wanted to teach them how it's really done?! REALLY JOHN? DUDE....REALLY??
BEN BUILDS A F@CKING PINBALL IN HIS LUNCHBREAK JOHN!

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#16037 4 years ago

So today I reveived my money back from international credit card services,pleasant surprise.
I reported this situation 3 weeks ago..
I had no idea that i was insured for situations like this,I also made a $250 payment via chase bank directly because i reached the limit of my paypal account...so that is lost obviously..
But I got $5645 back.
I may be telling you guys the obvious,but did you guys write ICS or whoever your credit card company is?
There were payments way past the 180 days insurance but got it all back in my account.
Paypal said I made a stupid decision to send John money and said "bad luck dude"when i contacted them..
But ICS helped me out right away and maybe some of you guys can also try?
I think i got all the $$$ back because John is not bankrupt yet?
Please try guys! it worked in my case and I can finally let go now...finally..!

#16070 4 years ago
Quoted from Razorbak86:

According to the updated court docket, the Popadiuks hired Venis & Copp LLP as legal counsel for all 3 defendants.
https://w3.courtlink.lexisnexis.com/cookcounty/FindDock.asp?NCase=&SearchType=2&Database=1&case_no=&Year=&div=&caseno=&PLtype=2&sname=Popadiuk&CDate=
They filed an appearance and paid their court fees on June 24th.
Venis & Copp is a small, general practice law firm in Chicago with both litigation and bankruptcy experience.
http://www.venislaw.com/

How crazy unreal this is?

I sincerely hope everybody gets their money back and the Pops can work on the chain gang for life.

You know,it does not matter if the Pops were evil or just stupid,it is THEIR decision to start building these pinballs because they were sooo convinced of themselves..
If you fail,you oughta pay everybody back because you failed(miserably),we did not fail...THEY failed...face the rest of your life in debt,pay the people back,sell your house,live in a box,bad luck for you...YOU were so convinced to pull it off? we just trusted you??

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#16165 4 years ago

"he and his girlfriend said they didn't go in on KISS because they're "absorbing" the losses"

That is just so sad,no Jpop machine,no kiss,no nothing...

John,you are the biggest retard in history,these are the people you hurt.

And now they cannot buy another machine,cause you took their money.

idiot...failure was not an option,the community trusted you with hard earned cash....and you just blow through the funds like it's going out of style.

#16196 4 years ago

So...if nobody gets a pinball machine, why do we ALLOW john to still be spending our money?
I mean , it's obvious the machines don't get build, if there is only $5 left, freeze it and give all the buyers a few cents back?

Maybe there is 100.000 left? Do we have proof?

Why do we allow john to still tinker on with our money??

He asks zombie yeti for more artwork? If that is true we should tie him to a pole and throw poop at him...

#16205 4 years ago
Quoted from jayhawkai:

pinballrockstar said:
So...if nobody gets a pinball machine, why do we ALLOW john to still be spending our money?
I mean , it's obvious the machines don't get build, if there is only $5 left, freeze it and give all the buyers a few cents back?
Maybe there is 100.000 left? Do we have proof?
Why do we allow john to still tinker on with our money??
He asks zombie yeti for more artwork? If that is true we should tie him to a pole and throw poop at him...
Have you joined the lawsuit yet?

Neh, i got my money back via international card services,so i don't sue,but the anger is still here and i cannot believe we let Jpop
tinker with our money, I am furious and though I got my money back I still pitch my thoughts because everybody should get the money back from this crazy doc Brown that lives in his makebelieve world.

#16206 4 years ago
Quoted from jayhawkai:

pinballrockstar said:
So...if nobody gets a pinball machine, why do we ALLOW john to still be spending our money?
I mean , it's obvious the machines don't get build, if there is only $5 left, freeze it and give all the buyers a few cents back?
Maybe there is 100.000 left? Do we have proof?
Why do we allow john to still tinker on with our money??
He asks zombie yeti for more artwork? If that is true we should tie him to a pole and throw poop at him...
Have you joined the lawsuit yet?

Neh, i got my money back via international card services,so i don't sue,but the anger is still here and i cannot believe we let Jpop
tinker with our money, I am furious and though I got my money back I still pitch my thoughts because everybody should get the money back from this crazy doc Brown that lives in his makebelieve world.

#16299 4 years ago

What an unusual letter from Jack?

I mean,if someone offered to build me a supernice table and then takes my $200 and says,aaaah i failed man...sorry...

Then it pisses you off right? it is not for the love and passion for diningroom tables that i forgive this dude?f@ck him,my money back dude?

Who wants to lose $16000 ?

How come Jack thinks the money to spend came easy? maybe we all been .... (moderated) .... for it? he don't know?

And maybe Jack,maybe ... we are all poor now... and the laugh of the town?

I think with WOZ you build the best game in history,period..(i owned a lot,see profile)...please hire someone to speak for you,because the words don't come out right..

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#16456 4 years ago

Maybe Jack just gave John a loan,why else would he react like this,Jack is the new angel investor and wants us to stop demonizing the machines.
John just smiled friendly and asked Jack for some money,for the love of pinball

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#16636 4 years ago

wow!!
that pin is awesome!
the music is spot on and it is flowing well?
i like the queen song at the end.
can i pre order?

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#16896 4 years ago

Yeah, popeye is way cooler!

#16901 4 years ago

That is the funniest ever! JPOPeye!
Well executed joke,i laughed my ass off!

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#17163 4 years ago

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/we-are-building-a-minions-pinball-updates-every-friday

Check our topic,we are killing a JPOP machine in our Minions pinball build,first P-ROC real pinball project.

Updates every friday and inbetween if we have fun updates!

Please share your knowledge on this fun home use/homebrew pinball machine!

#17164 4 years ago

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#17869 4 years ago

Who in their right mind,wants to listen to JPOP for 2 hours straight?are u kidding me??
The guy took weeks from my beautiful,amazing life, I refuse to listen to him!
What-will-he-say?
Will he give the money back? NO!
Thus a pointless 2 hours of my life? YES!
I pray for everybody to get a refund,that is the only energy I will put in to this...I wouldn't listen to JPOP if he was screaming his apology to me from two foot away.

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#18364 4 years ago

Maybe the hipster finally sees the bears on the road ahead.

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#18368 4 years ago

I still say we ask Jersey Jack to build a mix of the 3 JPOP machines..to satisfy everybody and you only have to build one line of pins.

It will be the tale about a toxic zombie girl with big magical tits that drank atomic waste in radioactive wonderland and ofcourse turned purple with skittle colored "zids" and is eversince in sort of a retro rollercoaster acid pinball trip.

ZAP ZAP

#18377 4 years ago

Good thing john is working very hard,can't wait to see my Alice in Wonderland in my gameroom!
Come on John! You can do it!

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#18382 4 years ago

Oooh wow john,you are so smart...I am sooo proud to be michelle popadiuk!

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#18384 4 years ago

so i heard magic girl has purple circuit boards? Is that true? Or just gossip?
Anybody?

#18386 4 years ago

ah thanks frolic, how nuts is that?.
Starting a pinball business with other peoples money you have to make sure your circuit boards are purple ofcourse..logic..

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#18434 4 years ago

Why does this take so long? Is this the law system in the usa?

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#18462 4 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

I was curious, so I jumped back 1 year in this thread... had to go all the way back to page 58.... so we've had 300 pages in the year since.
This is what we were talking about 1 year ago:

How bizar...

#18490 4 years ago

John! You suck!

#18525 4 years ago

John! You suck!

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#18547 3 years ago

As time passes, john-gate is getting more and more bizarre.
His friends think john just made a mistake?
A silly one million dollar mistake?
Really? Pfff

#18556 3 years ago

3-14-15 john send me this email,i mentioned my DIY solar panels in some back and forth emailing about zidware.
This he replied:

Hi,

Me too. Solar panels sound like a "good" project, I have
one day an idea for "low impact" housing for people displaced by storm, or
war. Beautiful "Nano" houses, made from recycled materials, nice colors,
easy to setup, compact to be a home for people, and children who are
without one. Something more than a tent....

I would do a Kickstarter or something as it is very needed and good.

The digital pinball thing will take off one day, one of our patents
we have a new playfield where the screen is "the whole" playfield and
the parts sit on top. Not a window in the center but the whole playfield.

Will send you some early videos from 2011 we had for test. Very cool
effect the ball hitting digital stuff, and the digital ball hitting real posts.

I think this will be the future with a rolling real ball on digital artwork for
the bars and arcades.

John

I am more and more confused about the things he emailed,at the time i just read it differently..
The part in the mail about digital pinball is actually describing Gerry Stellenbergs latest work? But he says he owns the patent?
And he never did send the videos about it, always says there is more to show but shows nothing?
I think indeed he is better off building a recycled house and maybe he can live in one shortly too!

#18601 3 years ago
Quoted from JoelOmatik:

The Popadiuks of Hazzard.
Now THAT would be a great pin.

Lol

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#18651 3 years ago
Quoted from Strange:

I still find John a very talented and unique pinball designer, my personal fave as I've expressed before. It's a shame there as been such turbulence around these new games which in my opinion have all looked amazing. If there is a will there is a way. The Pinball Inventor has nothing else to prove but make nice pin games. He will come through in the end...

LOL,sooo you go by the name ;"strange"

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#18653 3 years ago

Zidware business card still laying around in my car.
It saddens me too see how cool it looks and how promising it felt back then.
Supercool font, but that is all zidware ever was, a supercool font...

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#18659 3 years ago
Quoted from Ballypinball:

Gee your car is clean

It's a c class,i take care of it

#18665 3 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

I missed that year. It's amazing he couldn't even bother to attempt to color match the leg protectors, or trim the bottom to fit his custom cabinet.

Quoted from dgoett:

Or use the metal/plastic stern style that you don't even see that keeps the legs off the decals. So much attention to detail everywhere else and then THAT! agree!

It was John's crazy attention to detail, that resulted in us not having a zidware pinball today.

#18676 3 years ago
Quoted from Shrub_Light:

No, it was John not having any idea how to build a pinball machine. His attention to detail, constantly changing the art work and talking about adding new toys was because he had no clue how to move forward on actually making a working machine.

I was actually making a comment on post #18664..it had other context.
You are right about what you say and i know that..i was an AIW buyer.
I am supercareful nowerdays,i learned from my experience with John,that the most trustworthy people can just go like:"hey i failed! Your money is gone! Bey!!".
It still is a bizarre experience.

#18678 3 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

This is my takeaway as well. It was an expensive lesson for me, but I hope it saves me from a much bigger loss down the road (business investments, etc). No more putting my money into something "on faith".
Also never again will I put money into something where the principle has no skin in the game. If your house is not on the line I'm not putting my money in and letting you operate a failed business off my money till the money is gone.

So true, i changed in business too,i never got burned this bad.
When a deal feels wrong, i pass.
Sick thing is,you normally never see a customer again when you bounce a deal,but in this case, i still see john's stupid head daily when i play my CV.

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#18734 3 years ago

So...is this the end of it?

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#18736 3 years ago

18736 angry posts, and JPOP is still a free man, not refunding money

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#18828 3 years ago

I really thought you guys would have taken over his house or something by now, in the Netherlands we still stone people for shit like this.
Take it to court, sure...
Nothing happens??

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#18849 3 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

got bored so I googled zidware. Apparently John didn't even draw his own company's logo, he ran a contest for others to create one for him:
https://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/zidware-custom-pinball-usa-needs-amazing-logo-171342

It was the silver package, so count another $500 down the drain for capital funding.

What?! Are u kidding me?!
This is just ridiculous!

#18852 3 years ago

By far the best jpop joke on pinside

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#18868 3 years ago
Quoted from ralphwiggum:

Thanks.. you need the second one too for the full effect. (Upside down backglass FTW)

Epic

#18870 3 years ago

Yeah lol, there is only 1 deluted zidware supporter left

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#18896 3 years ago

Cleaning my mailbox and found a letter from John(01-25-2015)..

Hi Bas,

I am not sure what people are thinking. Pinball has always been
hard and controversial even at WMS. Us designers have always had
to "battle" the forces, all my games have bad events. But we leave
those in the past, as today all that has been created came from
nothing, just our imaginations. Which is amazing as I see it everyday
and it is "Divine" presence in the studio. There is no other explanation.

Did you see the Adobe® piece? It captured the feel and we are really
caretakers of pinball, and it demands us to be really great. I will send
you more art this week from MG so you can see more as we get the full
games ready to do "good" photographs.

We had our main cabinet vendor (prints the art) go down in December so
we have had to find a new vendor. Actually found 2 so we are delayed but
in better long position. But these games are my best work, and i am very
proud to show all. Dennis Nordman and Cameron Silver visited this last
week (to check up on me) and were floored. They could not believe the
progress of the games and how beautiful they are and creative.

They left without words, and yes my family and myself are fully dedicated.

John

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#18917 3 years ago

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#18922 3 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

I have a few of those notices too that I've kept! What a joke right.
"At your convenience" No detailed invoice or record keeping of any kind.
I'm not sure he had a clue what anybody owed.
I'm gonna frame some of the original stuff as a reminder to not ever be so stupid and suspend all common sense ever again.

And how stupid we were, indeed no receipt/ invoice , no nothing?
We were all under the impression he was doing stuff in a groovy and hipster way?
In retrospect i can't believe i paid 2000 usd just because he send this stupid notice?
I keep this notice for future reference too...

#18928 3 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

I fell for his groovy willy wonka ways as well. Seems so stupid now and hard to believe.

LOL, "groovy Willy Wonka ways" , couldn't have said it better..

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#18938 3 years ago

Just imagine Jpop playing on his magic girl pinball in his garage on a daily basis..the code being all finished and such.
I mean, who knows?
That is a crazy thought?
That we all paid hard earned money and HE is the only one playing a magic girl?

#18940 3 years ago
Quoted from CNKay:

No there is a guy in the market for these tainted machines and he likely pumped money John's way as well.

Is that a confirmed rumour?

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#19020 3 years ago

John, is my AIW ready to ship?
Can't seem to find your website anymore,but you have our money?
If you are not sending a pin, could you send some of your belongings to us..
You cannot keep other peoples money,that makes you sort of a thief..

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#19043 3 years ago

What i found odd, i never saw any tax specifications on my aiw bill and though i paid via paypal, i never paid fees for that or anything?
It never rang a bell, but looking back it was odd..

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#19055 3 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

You got an actual invoice, I never got squat. When the bankruptcy finally happens you at least have some paperwork to send to a trustee.

Kidding? What a mess...so you have no proof?
John's wife was employed there too, what was here job?
Did she send out bills and stuff?

#19059 3 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

I personally know of someone that handed him a wad of $2000 in cash, and he just took it and put it on a table, and that was the end of it.
I know this is all insane. It just shows what trust everyone had in John at one point, and how he destroyed that.

Lol, yes in hindsight it is insane?
But some people you trust easily, i burned myself on one of my customers a few times and every time i could not believe i did business again with this pathological imbecil?
And if you would meet the guy, you will trust him with your wallet.
Since jpop and this guy, i scan everybody the same way.

#19066 3 years ago

Well he did warn all of us at 41:27 ?
When people refer to their mind like that, you should abort.

#19077 3 years ago

Yeah nice painting for the living room

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#19254 3 years ago
Quoted from benheck:

JPOP the movie, starring:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_Lundin
Watch some old episodes of Dual Survival and you will agree!

Yes! Cody lundin! Barefoot weirdo !
That's our man!

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#19263 3 years ago

John!
I am sending a big shady repo man shortly.
I need about $6000 of your belongings.
See you soon.

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#19275 3 years ago

My repo man is half way there john!
He don't like to wait, so collect $6000 of your shit and things will go smooth.

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#19500 3 years ago

I am holding my breath for this.
If this is going to happen and the MG's are going to be delivered, it would feel like hell froze over.

#19580 3 years ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Who knows who is paid in full? Some may have only paid half. I don't think even JPOP knows who has paid what.

I was thinking exactly that...bill said his books were a mess.
And after dealing with the loss of maybe $8000 , and leaving it behind you, there are cases of people that i'm sure don't want to pay another $8000.
Too dicy