I didn't see this mentioned. Since this image is public I'm not breaking any NDAs

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That's the oldest full model of the RAZA playfield that exists. I would expect a LOT of that has changed.

I can't answer that question completely. All I can say is that there were (at one time) a number of OTS "off the shelf" parts that were being used that were not RoHS compliant. It is likely that Zidware doesn't even know which parts those are and may not even be aware of how extensive of a problem that could really be for them.

Someone pointed out earlier in this thread that they saw WMS return lane guides being used. Keep in mind that parts like these, sold as "replacement" parts, are exempt from RoHS as long as they go into a machine manufactured before RoHS went into effect (which all WMS games were). They do not get exempted from any new machines being made that might use them.

Another issue is that in order to be truly compliant with RoHS, you have to have documentation from every part supplier certifying that each and every part used is in compliance (and the suppliers have to keep records of compliance as well) and everything has to be kept on record at all times in the event that an importing country/agent asks for it.

What the possibility is of this happening, I couldn't tell you.

That loop da loop looks like it could be a ton of fun -- not unlike the pinball magic skill shot which I love. Looks like he also has a few TOTAN genie lamp spinners in there. I'd love to buy one of these when they come out as JPOP is hands down my favorite designer. With that being said, I'd rather pay up for one once they are out. Good luck to those who are in -- I hope that you are somewhat reassured by what you've seen today.

IF these come out you will indeed "pay up" for one of these.

Sorry I may have missed this elsewhere but what does RoHS stand for/mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restriction_of_Hazardous_Substances_Directive

Easier to google than to make someone type it out. Its a standard.

Edit..or that : )

Rodents of hUnusual Size.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rohs

It looks good at first glance but then you realize that none of the ramps are finished, etc.

Me likey. I still would not put my money down as the guy will not even answer a fucking email. Im supposed to just plop down money through paypall to someone I cant talk to to find out some sort of details. That pin looks awesome as hell but Im to impatient to just throw it down and wait indefinitely or never get it.

So, not a domestic issue at all.

This is what the big MG "lebowski" reveal was supposed to be (at least the way WE thought it was supposed to go), just show game, show video, let the world see it and go nuts.

Not at this time, no.

I do love his art....geez he does some amazing stuff, no wonder why people give him so much leeway.

That paper stuff is very early models. John doesn't seem to throw anything away. There are ramps, and flipping playfields, I do believe.

yeah, we're clinging to that hope he can get it done.

Although my 30 minute buzz from that video has ended and I'm back to the hard questions of getting the game completed, produced and whether the software and rules will be up to 2015 standards in pinball.

But *finished* ones? All you see are paper ramps. The implication is that he hasn't made any progress on MG in over a year based on photos from back then.

That art just needs to become large wall posters. Would sell a ton!

It means bullshit scam so we can charge you money and erect barriers to market entry for our competition. It's like UL.. totally unnecessary (depending on your sales and distribution).

I'd buy some translates and playfield prints.

Software is the least concern, imo. It is a simple matter to update software these days, once a platform is in place. Which means, unlike 'fixed' aspects (artwork, toys, mechanisms), user input can be implemented at any time after release to tweak things.

That'd be a good way to generate some income for the shop. I don't get why he doesn't sell PF art, translites, shirts, and whatever else he can. Income is income.

No kidding. Then all the people who are bitter about not being able to afford the games (lol) can still have a piece of the dream.

Actually, there's a brief shot where those super curvy (and probably really annoying slow) ramps that you see in paper look rendered properly in plastic.

Yeah, and that's working so well for Stern. I'd be cautious about thinking software can just be fixed later. If the games ship badly unfinished does anyone feel confident "old" games will get more attention over new shiny things?

Even though the theme is unlicensed, I doubt these artists are working under him as a company.

What's likely happening is he is paying the artist to design per machine. He probably does not have unlimited freedom to use the same artwork over and over and on anything he wants forever (billboards, t-shirts, etc.).

Although I have very limited experience in creative career roles, so it may be different in this environment, but any time I sold footage to a skate company it was for single use in a single video.

And any time I have an artist illustrate something for me I will pay per each use, even if it's the same drawing.

Thanks for the snarky "go google it" responses. I often find that these types of responses come from people who don't know the answer and were the mouth breathers in high school that laughed at others for raising their hands in class to ask a question.

There was a time on Pinside when you could ask a question and get a simple answer. I remember when I started on Pinside a few years ago I didn't know what routed meant. Thankfully you weren't in that thread.

To any others wondering, RoHS is an EU member state restriction that prevents hazardous materials from being used in certain types of electronics.

So as StevenP said, not a U.S. issue. As such its almost entirely irrelevant in this thread. UL testing on the other hand...

You know, his website says pinball art for sale or something like that. A while back I inquired about buying some framed art and got zero response. I'd buy some nice art to hang in the gameroom if he just effing responded.

While likely true, I would think it would serve him well to negotiate a deal for other items and SELL SELL SELL.

I'm sure there's a 3rd party storefront somewhere that provides sales and printing services (for a fee). Just provide them the art and print requirements. If he did something like that then not only would we get the art in a reasonable time span after payment, but it's also something he wouldn't need to be directly involved with.

Not something I do. I hire for art for my company. It is now my company's property. Use in a portfolio is fine after a certain date, but general usage and sales are not. I'm a bit old school when it comes to this stuff though. Do I pay more for it? Maybe, but then it's mine.

Laughable statement. Are you being serious here?

Your welcome. Just shocked that you would not look it up. Takes as much time as asking.

Let's see... Spiderman. Lord of the Rings. World Poker Tour. AC/DC. Metallica. Yeah, I'd say it is working petty well for Stern, even if not the optimal approach. And you can add WOZ for JJP.

Gonna "pop" out of this thread now, before I start correcting some misstatements and perhaps posting things I shouldn't be posting.

Gotta quit drinking in the afternoon ; )

Believe it or not it's been done. Gold Wings has a loop-de-loop shot. Bizarre machine but shockingly fun in small doses.

Top Left of PF:
http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1043&picno=58528

What!

Teach a yourself to fish, or expect to be fed for the rest of your life?

I have no problem helping people out, but draw the line when it is clear someone expects the other party to do everything. Google is your friend. We can be friends too, but don't expect everybody to spoon feed you everything

Nice, it's cool amigo. Sorry I gave you crap on asking vs googling. Its all good.

All good - I was also once of those snarky mouth breathers at times despite what you may think Now get back to work!

I agree with all of that, the shroud of secrecy has already turned into a liability for him. A Zidware store is a great idea, the artwork is completely amazing, and as long as he doesn't put a limit of 20 of each item he sells, it could wind up being more profitable than making the games in the first place. Or as has been mentioned, would certainly help fill in any income gap he may have without a lot of extra effort on his part.

Wow after seeing those games I would be willing to wait till 2016, clearly JP is operating on another level from anyone designing today....after seeing those features it would be very hard for me to love another fan layout. Damn....MIND BLOWN.

... And the cult leader wins over the brainwashed again.

Seriously, a couple of videos and he gets a free pass for FOUR YEARS of stringing you people along?

I think you should let the cult decide for themselves.