Yes, check out my interview with thisflippinpodcast if you haven't heard it. That's my story on this. And yes i haven't touched the code since being left with $11K and a game owing. And no i haven't been contacted about getting a game or the cash owed, but i wish the buyers well and look forward to seeing what's inside them and what code it is on them.

Go get in a van and pick yours up and ask where mine is please.

Does this mean more money will be required from buyers? I sure hope not but I got this vibe 4 months ago when I posted this:

CONGRATS TO ALL OF THE OWNERS!!!

Fingers crossed for you guys. But make sure someone goes and gets theirs in person before you throw another $ at shipping to find out they mounted a bagatelle in those old cabinets.

Well heres the pics I've seen

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Sounds like i am winning $25 bet with toyotaboy!
Winner!
Hell froze over!

Was everyone paid in full on MG? Seems like with RAZA and AIW everyone gave up paying more at different times / likely poor accounting on John's part.

Don't count your chickens.... but I hope you are right!

What's the pricing card for? The games weren't supposed to be routed or it voided the warranty. Anybody feel like chiming in that the warranty is not worth the paper on which it is written?

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To whom do you remit payment? Seems like it should be JPOP, but contractually it is probably the now defunct - Zidware. AP would prefer to see money paid into account they were joint signatory on, just to avoid any "funny stuff".

If there is video showing it has "reasonable code" and not a box of lights, then absolutely I will follow through on my bet

Holy shit dude, I just remembered that and I'm not gonna lie - I thought you were giving away $25 at the time. What are the odds.

Sorry to double-post but that is a CRAZY ramp. Does anyone have a link to some concept pictures (if any exist)? It's sort of hard to see what the game was supposed to look like from those two pictures (or does look like).

Wasn't that ramp impossible to make at the PNW show?

Really eager to see DeadFlip or Buffalo Pinball live stream this... I think it will be brutal and I am not talking about the game play.

So if you don't like it can you get your money back?

Yes, they finally ended up just taking the glass off and throwing the ball up the ramp by hand so someone could take a video of it. I think that video is somewhere in this thread.

LOL

Even if MG plays well, I don't think it's going to be the successful "Hail Mary" JPOP needs to stop the lawsuit as some of the plaintiffs' claims are for AIW and BHZA/RAZA as well.

And if the MG owners think MG is a clunker they will still be able to claim that it is not what they were promised (given all the promotional materials hyping JPOPs previous games and how this one will be even better) and continue their suit.

Maybe there will even be a new basis for claims under the Uniform Commercial Code on "implied warranty for fitness for a particular purpose" since people are buying it to play pinball (if it doesn't work (or just works badly)).

Certainly going to be interesting however it plays out!

I'm sure this helps JPOP's defense by claiming that "now that the 1st game is finished, I can start to focus more on RAZA and AIW".

I would bet that the code is extremely bare. It would be cool if as a "thanks for putting up with all my BS" JPOP allowed the code to be open so others could potentially make it a complete game.

JPOP tries to patent everything...so I highly doubt he would ever allow anything to be open source.

Doesn't matter - the underlying control system is just a ripoff of the P-ROC, so the existing frameworks will work just fine with it, and I'd hope the custom community would step up to make the games truly playable.

However, on the flip side, there's so many people who got screwed by John - like applejuice and zombiyeti - that finishing it seems like a slap in the face to those guys.

If I'm an owner who waited this long I would not view it as a slap in the face at all to make the game fully playable code wise, I would view it as a service to the community. I understand your point though.

That is definitely the plan.

When I see gameplay video from an owner in his home, I will be a believer

! N O T A G A I N !

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How many of these are made? If it is just a few I highly doubt anyone with that talent will take the time and effort to code these.

Jack regularly pumps up JPop and clearly idolises him ... if JPop's vanity wins over his no doubt extreme caution re: public appearances, I'd bet there'll be a stream with him on soon.

You'd be surprised - the custom pinball community has proven to be very generous with their time to help out fellow pinheads, especially on the coding side of things. With a complete asset set (graphics and sound) it might prove to not be that difficult to finish. But then, how would all the unpaid vendors feel about that? All their hard work with no compensation and someone just swoops in and takes it all?

This whole thing is a giant mess.

I would suspect the code on these games will be awesome, and all of the rough edges that rendered the game unplayable when last the public saw it will be ironed out.

This game will in no way be cobbled together and somehow pushed out the door to simply end the nightmare.

Rosh is doing the code,he is coding houdini too.

No, he is not involved with Magic Girl at all.

"The official production run of Magic Girl™ pinball machine will be limited to a total of 19 numbered units
(perfect), and 2 prototype samples (imperfect), that will be offered for sale by the Company to the public.
No other produced units of the Magic Girl™ pinball machine will be offered for sale to the public."

"mission accomplished" I have heard that somewhere 12 years ago.....

There are regular legal case conferences about the Zidware case. Jpop's 'team' should have raised this, and the legal case would need to be concluded first. Above board and judge-approved and not this amateur hour circus.

There are numerous game-related and legal assurances needed before this would be viable. Is the game a glorified light box? How does this affect a later RAZA claim (I bought MG and RAZA)? What is the process to get a MG as nothing has been communicated? Who pays for shipping? IMO my MG shipping costs can jolly well come out of the RAZA money I'm owed. I'm not giving another penny to Mr Popadiuk.

If the legal case continues then presumably these assets might eventually be e.g. rolled into an asset auction later (thus, even if you receive a machine you might have to return it later).

There is a legal process to be followed, and it looks like Mr Popadiuk isn't doing so. Instead we are getting inadequate scant information.

As I have zero trust in this guy, I'd like to see evidence from a trusted, independent 3rd party that this is real, and are the MGs playable or just lightbox junk? We need more information, maybe a teleconference with MG plaintiffs/pre-orderers as a next step, including the attorney Zane Smith. What is the process? Now that Jpop is apparently communicating with us again, albeit indirectly, is he going to do the honourable thing and apologise, and offer a full explanation of what the heck happened? Had he done the latter previously, a lot of the legal shenanigans might have been avoided. It's a human decency thing, John.

The above are just my own ill-informed amateur views, and I have no inside information and have not d/w legal, but they are questions I'm sure the other conned Jpop customers are thinking, and I wanted to put on record for discussion...

Oh...well i figured: he writes code,works at AP as coder for the houdini project and all Magic Girls are standing there needing code?makes sense?
Since i get downvoted on that;
Is that a bad thing if Rosh would be involved in the magic girl code?
He is real smart and good at it?
It's not like one has turned to the dark side working on magic girl code?
My Minion pinball code is a fart compared to Rosh's homebrew pin code.
I recently collided with Rosh but i really like what he creates.
Did you see the dice counting system on Casino?
We aren't on speaking terms anymore but he writes mean code and i hope he's involved.

Mark is correct, I have absolutely no involvement with Magic Girl. I am 100% focused on Houdini.

Not even a tiny little logic block?

I thought we were back on speaking terms

Absolutely nothing.

Yeah we are speaking right now...
Okay..cool...
Write some cool code for Houdini,i am absolutely buying one.

Not many statements in this entire thread make more sense than this one. This whole thing is surreal.

You got downvoted for stating something that was not true. And stating it confidently as if if it were true.

Don't worry - you're hardly the only one over here that makes an educated guess and then states it as fact. You have plenty of company

Not if he stays above the line. Unlike Kevin he's not in bankruptcy court. Transactions that are non-preferential and otherwise normal business wouldn't normally face clawbacks. By shipping these games, JPop in theory is reducing his debts.

"I've been on it 24-7. Really."

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Hey bbb has bugs and king pin wasn't complete.. kp has sold for $60k

Seriously, what's a MG spot worth at this moment? Any sellers?

$50k I'll get u one

Between this, and Predator, and the press pinball has been receiving lately (like in the New York Times and CBS), it looks like 2017 is shaping up to be one hell of an interesting year for pinball.