Quoted from hardware:
Correct me if I am wrong as I haven't been following closely. None of your comment is based on facts, but speculation?
I think Toyota boy is right on, I know him and don't see this as speculation at all - why don't you beleive in the PF issues or the question of whether AP/Zidware has the rights or they still belong to Bill (wcBrandes).!? Hep oil base & clear can't mix, and PF are trash, re-sand to bare word and start over. See post #20135 said - that's fact.
TB's imagined conversation/reaction from AP Scott/Dhaval on the "nearly complete Houdini and MG" is exactly what we saw and heard at their Expo presentation and Jonathan Joosten/Pinball magazine podcast interview with Scott and Dhaval of American Pinball... especially the distancing of AP being owned/owing/connected with Zidware/JPop.
The rights, the last any of us know, were sold to wcbrandes / Pintasia, and Bill did put a lot of $$ into the May/June 2015 attempt to get MG from lab to a public show - Bill has been quiet to confirm (but is posting on Pinside elsewhere, so alive and well) so either BIll doesn't want to or has been advised to be silent for now.
Not only that, the Jan v. June 2016 pics show PF design elements changing since March 2016, implying there are software or other mech changes in the July 2016 version which might require even more time. Between the PF redo and the rework of inserts - does anybody see even one proto game being done by 12/31? All delivered? - that dog won't hunt!
SO ---- seems like TB's post was all based on fact, and nearly everybody here considers as fact (until someone comes up with solid evidence that ZIdware and AP do own the rights free and clear.
What's you agenda of accusation of speculation - are you doubting TB , are you doubting the PF comments and pics by HSA, or do you have some other agenda?