Quoted from frolic:
It's amazing looking back, after the expo fiasco he STILL managed to buy about 6 months worth of time.
He was on a short leash then, but him promising reveals and production, combined with some insiders swearing up and down they've seen it and it's "near complete", combined with all of us clinging onto hope there can still be a Santa Claus.
I feel like we are all old soldiers now sharing war stories.
He also seemed to have this magical spell over most people, causing us to suspend all rational thought, preventing us from asking the tough questions. We did blaze that trail somewhat Frolic, and you pounded his ass pretty good for quite some time!
In January, the supposed "manufacturing manager" that he lied about bringing on called me and told me the truth about how far behind John really was at the time and John "couldn't pay him" but wanted him to work for food and gas money.
The guy never started with John, it was clear John wasn't going to listen to him. He also said then how shocked he was to see another room of EM pin ideas he had been tinkering with. Obviously using our money to F around.
Then i had the conversation with Chris at Cointaker and he was relaying to me the Expo incident with John and the lies he had been told about getting him paid, etc.
Chris got upset when I disclosed that info here and the "manager guy" wasn't willing to come out of secrecy either.
At that point though, the whole secrecy/NDA BS had to be blown up, and all the facts needed to get out there.
People were afraid to say anything and confront him. He created this persona of the mad scientist that needed his space to work and couldn't mess with his fragile ego.
After all, he "was just creating great pinball that nobody else had ever done before"