Thanks man, easily one of the most useful posts since the game was revealed. Lot of really helpful context.
Personally, I appreciate all the effort people went through to bring the game to the show. Obviously it's still really rough, and maybe more so than we were led to believe, and I understand the frustration that comes with that.
But at the end of the day we finally got to see something. Unfinished, raw, and maybe ridiculous in many ways, but it was a pinball. And that's what I'm ultimately here to read about and talk about. I'd personally love to see less legal advice from people who aren't actually lawyers, and more talking about the game. Will it ever actually get built? I dunno. Maybe the will and ways exist to at least get a more finished prototype done, and we can at least see the vision for the game functioning better. I'd like that.
I've never felt that "non-owners" should just be quiet. But if you didn't actually lose any money to John maybe it's time to dial back the emotional response just a little. The wheels are in motion. He's being sued. No one is sending him money. He's a jerk. We all get it. No need to keep beating the horse. It's just noise now.
If you're involved with Pintasia in any way, even just as a volunteer who's trying to help out, then please do keep posting updates, even with the drama. And if it all fails to produce games for everyone, well, we know who's fault that is. I think the odds are long, but if people are crazy enough to try then I wish them nothing but good luck.
Also, thank you to the mods for stepping in and trying to reduce the toxic back and forth, it's appreciated. Let's try and remember that we're all on the same side here, fans of pinball.