Quoted from jwilson:
The tone I was getting from the posts was that most people think the game is extremely underwhelming in its current state, which given that it's even more alpha than anyone was letting on, makes sense.
Yet somehow because people aren't shooting rainbows up everyone's asses, you're going to take your ball and go home? I think if people are going to be in this game, they need to take criticism. Quite a bit of it very constructive, like maybe shoot a high quality video before the show opens, get out front on the narrative. Or change the lighting to be more flattering to the artwork. I don't see those comments as shitting on anyone.
I won't get into ZY's blowup. It sounds like he's going through a tough personal time so I wouldn't take anything he's saying as gospel.
I commend the guys who busted ass on the game to get it to even this state, they're definitely the true believers. But it's the true believers who had blinders on and got taken by Popaduik the slick snake oil salesman in the first place. The true believers are always the easiest marks. It's healthy to be skeptical.
I agree, not sure what up ZY's butt. People seem to love his art on the game, but the gameplay let's face it sucks (I said it). I'm not sure if ZI has ever played any pinball games (seriously) a lot of people have not, I meet people every day who have not played a pin in 20+ years, so if he thinks this prototype looks like it is a winner, I don't know what to say. Plus he's not responsible for the state of the game, just let your work shine and play up John being the jerk that's better than lashing out at negative reviews of the gameplay, especially and until I see some good gmae play video and ramp shots, heck the ball has a hard time making it out of the shooter lane.
ZI gets all up on his high horse. If I were him, I'd be trying to distance myself as much as possible from John (and Zidware because as it stands its deader than fried chicken to quote 'Pulp Fiction').
Like I said like lots of people said, shoot a video, if you can't make a video (that's under your control) you don't have to show it breaking down 75 times or that the ball doesn't make the ramp shot except one time out of 20. You can shoot 2 hrs and show the best 2 minutes its under your control. Shoot a video of the game playing not breaking down and then you have something to crow about. Right now there is nothing to crow about. If it's impossible to make a video, good lord don't bring it to a show.
I must have said it 5 times already, put your best foot forward. If the pin is breaking down every 3 minutes or is off half the day, that shows me its not ready to be shown. It was obviously rushed out the door to the show, what reason?
I'd rather hear it said, John ducked it up so its not possible for it to be shown in a working form. That would be better than to have it at the show and it's broken down half the time and no one can make the ramp shot, oh I forgot someone did with their hand, so ZY thinks that's acceptable and everyone should bow down to MG as being the best game of all time?
Finally, I will say go look at Wooly thread, see that game, then look at this game. Tell me they are in the same league? They're not even the same sport. Wolly is a true playable game/prototype. MG is a pretty object that is not remotely playable in its current state.