Quoted from bounoun:
Is it ? I am being serious. Lets say I start a legit company. I ask money for a game that will be delivered in 2 years. Lets assume I raise 2 million. I get a big office, pay myself a reasonable salary (80k a year) and hire a bunch of expensive programmers. 1 year later the game has completely failed and there is 0 money left. Was is left to show is a few million lines of codes and an alpha state game.
Did I scam people or just had a poor business plan to start with ? What would be criminal of failing a business ? I am not trying to defend JPOP in anyway, but wasn't this mess a failure from the start ?
Yes, I am being serious. I did not say anything in my post about criminal. I stated wrong and fraudulent. From what we have heard here, john was trying to sell pins, he knew full well he was not going to fulfill. That my friend is 100% wrong. 'Character' is what we in the civil world Judge (rightly or wrongly) people. I would go as far to say, that is one of the few standards we have left. Once we start questioning poor 'character', say goodbye to society, and say hello to chaos. A quick look in the dictionary, indicates that character refers to integrity and honesty. There is quite a bit of evidence lately that would indicate that not much 'character' has been shown. If society says stealing things (taking something, but not providing the goods paid for) is not wrong, I would say that is a problem. John may not have started out that way, and he may be a terrible businessman, which he has admitted to, but his behaviors in the tail end of this fiasco, is very telling. I am all about forgiveness, and if I had lost thousands, I would be very upset, but I would end up forgiving John, if he was remorseful. People can change. So can John, but at this point in time, I would not trust him. I would feel sorry for him. He would have to earn back trust. Lots of people are fraudulent, dishonest, and are not in jail. What the judicial system is willing to go after people for, and what is truth, is totally different. That's a whole different subject, I won't get into here. Forgiveness is a big deal. The faster people here forgive John, they will be happier for it. Holding onto grudges will only affect the person who holds onto that grudge. that's my 2 cents. It won't be easy to forgive either. It's like building pinball machines...it's hard.