Quoted from frolic:
There doesn't appear to be any money to recover. Any money he has "on paper" is what is owed to him by us.
So I don't personally see how legal proceedings will help anything other than permanently kill it and create some theater for the spectators of this thread. But it won't recover any money.
The key is we do not send him any more good money after bad. He's going to have to figure out a way to finance the completion of the games that doesn't include more money from us, he's lost that privilege.
Frolic, I know you have money in one of John's "projects" and you are one of the more vocal people on this thread so I thought I would ask you this question directly.
You patience is admirable in all this but I ask you, when do you say enough is enough and get angry and try and put this guy in jail for all of this? I understand that going after him will guarantee a 100% chance of never getting a game but it would seem at this point there is nearly a 100% chance that none of the games will ever get built.
For the past 6 months there has been ever increasing lies and missed deadlines. It seemed to me that when Ice was on his rampage a few months back on this thread he had John's attention for a short while and got some small results. It now seems like just another line spoon feed by John to all the owners just to calm the masses for a short period of time. We're right back to the norm, John ignores nearly everyone and there is virtually zero progress on games 1 and 2.
I know if a family member of mine was having money of his or hers stolen like this, I would be right there standing at their side trying to put this thief in jail. John may not have intended to start out as a thief (who does in life?) but it sure appears that is what he has become and he has stolen from the Pinball/Pinside family and it's time for him to pay. I feel angry towards the guy just writing this so I can only imagine the rage in some of you. This is absolutely brutal to see people get abused like this.
So what would be a reasonable timeline before a group of owners get together and "get their pound of flesh" via the courts and maybe jail time for John and his vaporware scheme?